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Muttslaughter 12-14-2011 11:30 PM

PANDA AGAIN
 
My last thread was locked because I guess I came off the wrong way. So I would to say, first off I didn't say I didn't like the panda. My question is simply this, WHAT DO YOU THE PLAYERS THINK OF THE PANDA?

I personally am indifferent towards it. I don't love it, or hate it. It just exists. And it's tail still looks naughty. LOL!

callimuc 12-14-2011 11:36 PM

Well itīs cute. The graphic is also awesome. Sure they could have added some winter/christmas morph for this month, but the morph is still a present and looks nice.

Btw I think the thread was closed because it was going way too much off topic.

Gambit Drakul 12-14-2011 11:41 PM

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Posted by callimuc (Post 44079)
Well itīs cute. The graphic is also awesome. Sure they could have added some winter/christmas morph for this month, but the morph is still a present and looks nice.

Btw I think the thread was closed because it was going way too much off topic.

It wasn't really going off topic,Mutt was right some people took it too personal and started getting a bit tangy.

As for the graphic I think it looks good but MuttSlaughter isn't the only one I've seen saying that the rear looks a bit weird.But all in all it looks good love how it juggles snowballs when it sits down XD.

Muttslaughter 12-14-2011 11:48 PM

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Posted by Gambit Drakul

But all in all it looks good love how it juggles snowballs when it sits down XD.

I agree hopefully this won't be the only morph with an extra animation.

callimuc 12-14-2011 11:59 PM

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Posted by Muttslaughter (Post 44084)
I agree hopefully this won't be the only morph with an extra animation.

Other morphs also got other specials like the fairy, it is able to enter room like dragons only and such

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Posted by Gambit Drakul (Post 44081)
It wasn't really going off topic,Mutt was right some people took it too personal and started getting a bit tangy.

Well you are right ^_^

Yephenpeace 12-15-2011 12:00 AM

Made another thread? Yea! Fight the system!

There wasn't much to discuss, this should be closed.

whoamI 12-15-2011 12:17 AM

again, vip shouldnt be called vip...you get no special service except being able to play on pc....milk the moneyyyyyyyyy

WarrLordd 12-15-2011 12:42 AM

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Posted by whoamI (Post 44094)
again, vip shouldnt be called vip...you get no special service except being able to play on pc....milk the moneyyyyyyyyy

Milk the money? It's your fault for being lazy and not farm for your gralats then again it's your own fault for buying itunes card with your lunch money.

And i don't think you know what VIP is, it's not just only for being on a pc it's to help players who cannot afford the Graal + App. Once they purchase VIP using gralats they get the option to buy customize stuff for gralats and not itunes money.
Both Graal + and Graal (Free) users get the choice to use this method and they both work out the same way. And as a reward you get a free item at the end of the month, as i have said before in the thread that's been closed ungrateful little bastards.

Muttslaughter 12-15-2011 12:51 AM

Let's please keep it on the subject. Here I'll make it easy:

Green gralat is low, Blue is okay, Red is average, Gold is nice, Purple is Awesome, and Black is PERFECT.

How do you rate the Panda.

whoamI 12-15-2011 12:54 AM

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Posted by WarrLordd (Post 44104)
Milk the money? It's your fault for being lazy and not farm for your gralats then again it's your own fault for buying itunes card with your lunch money.

And i don't think you know what VIP is, it's not just only for being on a pc it's to help players who cannot afford the Graal + App. Once they purchase VIP using gralats they get the option to buy customize stuff for gralats and not itunes money.
Both Graal + and Graal (Free) users get the choice to use this method and they both work out the same way. And as a reward you get a free item at the end of the month, as i have said before in the thread that's been closed ungrateful little bastards.

so what happens if someone already purchased the items before vip was introduced?....why should i have to sit on my ipod/iphone for 5 hours + just so i can play on pc?

Yephenpeace 12-15-2011 01:03 AM

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Posted by WarrLordd (Post 44104)
And as a reward you get a free item at the end of the month, as i have said before in the thread that's been closed ungrateful little bastards.

Who is being ungrateful? I'm sorry but i don't think you're handling this correctly... It appears your taking this a little too personally, and i'm saying this with all due respect. They are simply pointing out their views of VIP, in no way did that sound ungrateful and it wasn't insulting you at all. I appreciate your work on this server, but you need to calm down when someone has a negative opinion of your work. Keep in mind, people on this forum like to complain, i'm sure there are many people who love the panda. People were just critiquing it, which shouldn't phase you because after all, you can't please everyone. Keep up the good work and don't take things too personally. :)

Gambit Drakul 12-15-2011 01:40 AM

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Posted by whoamI (Post 44094)
again, vip shouldnt be called vip...you get no special service except being able to play on pc....milk the moneyyyyyyyyy

Mate,If you don't like VIP then why complain about it?I'm pretty sure at this point you don't or even bothered to pay for it so why post something up about it?We're talking about the Panda morph not on how it "Milks the money".

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Posted by WarrLordd (Post 44104)
Milk the money? It's your fault for being lazy and not farm for your gralats then again it's your own fault for buying itunes card with your lunch money.

And i don't think you know what VIP is, it's not just only for being on a pc it's to help players who cannot afford the Graal + App. Once they purchase VIP using gralats they get the option to buy customize stuff for gralats and not itunes money.
Both Graal + and Graal (Free) users get the choice to use this method and they both work out the same way. And as a reward you get a free item at the end of the month, as i have said before in the thread that's been closed ungrateful little bastards.

You shouldn't really call someone an ungrateful little bastard,If you see them disliking something or your work just brush it off there's a lot of people out there that will just do things to piss you off so way even bother with them?

Higbey 12-15-2011 02:01 AM

The back tail Is wierd with the dot in the middle.. But I like the idea of morphs having idle animations. Hopefully we can get to the stage where ganis actually do stuff that is usefull other than entering another shop or juggling. I still don't approve of this "VIP" pseudo supscription.

And warrlord you cant call people lazy when there are so few ways to make money and most of the ways are slow and innefficent, with no fun and large way to make money that takes time but gets money in large ammounts.

Muttslaughter 12-15-2011 02:02 AM

This thread is a fail again:( all that's left is for NYN to lock it again. I just asked a simple question

Higbey 12-15-2011 02:12 AM

Id give it a 6/10
10/10 is actual content. 4/10 is overpriced gani , 5/10 is a good gani, 6 is a great gani that is cheap and effects the game etc etc.

Rexx 12-15-2011 02:19 AM

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Posted by WarrLordd (Post 44104)
Milk the money? It's your fault for being lazy and not farm for your gralats then again it's your own fault for buying itunes card with your lunch money.

And i don't think you know what VIP is, it's not just only for being on a pc it's to help players who cannot afford the Graal + App. Once they purchase VIP using gralats they get the option to buy customize stuff for gralats and not itunes money.
Both Graal + and Graal (Free) users get the choice to use this method and they both work out the same way. And as a reward you get a free item at the end of the month, as i have said before in the thread that's been closed ungrateful little bastards.

You being an admin I think you should conduct yourself a little better than name calling..you should put yourself above that.

You're an admin of a game where most of the people playing are little idiot kids or (pre)teenagers who think they know everything (lol ironic yes, I'm 17 though)

its impossible to please everyone so forget about it, just keep doin your thing

whoamI 12-15-2011 02:20 AM

[QUOTE=Gambit Drakul;44122]Mate,If you don't like VIP then why complain about it?I'm pretty sure at this point you don't or even bothered to pay for it so why post something up about it?We're talking about the Panda morph not on how it "Milks the money".


i complain about it because its the only way i can play on pc....or else i have to deal with major lag....and im not gonna buy an ipad just for graal...that is the reason why i complain =)

and not once did it say anything about the panda, all i said was vip items are pointless

LiA 12-15-2011 09:29 AM

I'd have to say, I Love it! It's the 2nd best ViP item we've gotten so far. And it can juggle ^_^.

Maikeru 12-15-2011 03:53 PM

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Posted by Yephenpeace (Post 44114)
Who is being ungrateful? I'm sorry but i don't think you're handling this correctly... It appears your taking this a little too personally, and i'm saying this with all due respect. They are simply pointing out their views of VIP, in no way did that sound ungrateful and it wasn't insulting you at all. I appreciate your work on this server, but you need to calm down when someone has a negative opinion of your work. Keep in mind, people on this forum like to complain, i'm sure there are many people who love the panda. People were just critiquing it, which shouldn't phase you because after all, you can't please everyone. Keep up the good work and don't take things too personally. :)

Actually, i agree with WarLord on this one...
All what Whoam did was "VIP only gives you the option to play on PC. Milk the Money!"

Thats clearly not true...
I know what he said was a little over the top but WarLord has some right to say that to Whoam. It clearly sounds like Whoam did it on purpose to piss them off because it explains VIP when you click VIP on the menu screen of the game

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Posted by whoamI (Post 44140)
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Posted by Gambit Drakul (Post 44122)
Mate,If you don't like VIP then why complain about it?I'm pretty sure at this point you don't or even bothered to pay for it so why post something up about it?We're talking about the Panda morph not on how it "Milks the money".


i complain about it because its the only way i can play on pc....or else i have to deal with major lag....and im not gonna buy an ipad just for graal...that is the reason why i complain =)

and not once did it say anything about the panda, all i said was vip items are pointless

Seriously... If you have an Ipod touch or an Iphone, why do you want to play it on PC?

the VIP does not give you access to play on PC (You could already do that on the Facebook Server for free). It allows the account you paid VIP for to get access to both the Facebook Server and Iphone Server (Yes.. You can play the Facebook Server on your iPhone). You also get an exclusive VIP item at the end of the month that never will be released again.. and im jealous with some of the VIP items it has to offer..

VIP items are pointless? Im sorry.. are these items garbage because its not a quest or some kind of exclusive attack item?
If so... Maybe you are playing the wrong game then... Because this isn't legend of zelda my friend...

G Fatal 12-15-2011 06:12 PM

Everyone is intitled to an opinion,
everyone or someone is allways going to exspect more. (AS FOR ANYTHING)
So live with it and move on. Rather than moaning about 'they don't appreciate it' ...Well isn't that the graphic teams job to do them? don't volunteer if your going to get annoyed about someones opinion.
Panda graphics: 8.5/10
Any point of the Panda: No, Just A 7500gralat gift that we get from having an active v.i.p subscription.

Maikeru 12-15-2011 07:07 PM

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Posted by Gricey (Post 44303)
Everyone is intitled to an opinion,
everyone or someone is allways going to exspect more. (AS FOR ANYTHING)
So live with it and move on. Rather than moaning about 'they don't appreciate it' ...Well isn't that the graphic teams job to do them? don't volunteer if your going to get annoyed about someones opinion.
Panda graphics: 8.5/10
Any point of the Panda: No, Just A 7500gralat gift that we get from having an active v.i.p subscription.

Oh now it needs a point? Its just a gift for having a VIP subscription!
And don't forget that there is going to be more VIP exclusive content on the way (Not only the gifts but there could be places and shops only VIP players can access)..

Seriously... Wtf is up with you guys? You only appreciate these items if its got to do with some type of quest or event? This morph can juggle! This is the first morph in iClassic that does this! I think thats more than enough to like it!

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Posted by WarrLordd
ungrateful little bastards.


whoamI 12-15-2011 07:59 PM

@maikeru

i wasnt looking to piss off anyone, ive never even heard of warlord before...why do i want to play on pc?....i dont play this game to socialize and chat...i started when graal was ONLY on pc....i play this game to pk, spar, take towers, you know have fun....if you arent using a 4g or an ipad...you pretty much have a lagfest and an disadvantage.....and yes you can play on pc for free....on the facebook server which has a max of what...100 people?....and i never said the vip were garbage....they just have no point to them...walking around as a panda/buffalo which you cant even attack as >.<

Maikeru 12-15-2011 08:19 PM

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Posted by whoamI (Post 44326)
@maikeru

i wasnt looking to piss off anyone, ive never even heard of warlord before...

I said that it sounds like it...

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Posted by whoamI (Post 44326)
why do i want to play on pc?....i dont play this game to socialize and chat...i started when graal was ONLY on pc....i play this game to pk, spar, take towers, you know have fun....

Graal Classic is meant to do all of that... If you don't want to socialize and chat... You don't have to... Just PK and have fun

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Posted by whoamI (Post 44326)
if you arent using a 4g or an ipad...you pretty much have a lagfest and an disadvantage...

Not true. I have a third generation iPod Touch and it works really good... No lag really..

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Posted by whoamI (Post 44326)
and yes you can play on pc for free....on the facebook server which has a max of what...100 people?

Graal Classic on the PC and iPhone are sort of two completely different games... Whereas the PC version is completely random imo... and the iPhone is an social and fun experience for all type of players to enjoy..

The Facebook Version is the same as iClassic iPhone, except the graphical changes and the Facebook Exclusives (RPS NPC's is one of an exclusive example).

VIP allows your character to switch between the iPhone and Facebook version of the game (and soon Android) so you can try to get all the exclusives. Its pretty smart for 7500 gralats imo :)

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Posted by whoamI (Post 44326)
..and i never said the vip were garbage....they just have no point to them...walking around as a panda/buffalo which you cant even attack as >.<

They're just gifts for saying "Thanks for purchasing VIP :) we appreciate our customers and we'd like to give monthly gifts for those that still have the VIP subscriptions". Buffalo is actually an awesome morph. Its not supposed to mean anything. Its kinda funny/cool.

Same for the Panda aswell... And i like the Panda alot because its the first morph in the game to ever juggle... Also, WarrLordd mentioned that we will get more morphs with special tricks/abilities in the upcoming months for VIP members.. So thats actually a really good deal you're getting there :D

VIP for a year comes to exactly 90,000 gralats (around 40-50 bucks). Thats actually a really great deal you get there. Usual subscriptions cost 70-80 bucks and thats hefty.

Also, please realize that Graal Classic is a free game. VIP is optional

Higbey 12-15-2011 08:23 PM

thats like saying a flight is free because the ticket and seat and baggage fees are optional.

and id like to see whatever 70-80 buck subscription for iphone games youve been seeing.
its a game without real content, and until stefan starts getting scripters and paying them its gonna ****ing stay that way, we all know it.

Izarin 12-15-2011 08:27 PM

I like the panda. IMO, it's a 7/10. It's better than the buffalo because it has juggle, but the back end is kinda weird. I really like it, and I think that you guys should just rate the panda and stop arguing. I'd hate for this to get locked before other people can state their opinions.

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Posted by Higbey (Post 44330)
thats like saying a flight is free because the ticket and seat and baggage fees are optional.

and id like to see whatever 70-80 buck subscription for iphone games youve been seeing.

I think he means Graal PC.

And actually, you can enjoy Graal just fine without a custom pack or a house. You'll just be mocked and questioned, so people prefer to buy them. And you CAN survive without VIP. I've done it. For the year and a half before it was released. :)

whoamI 12-15-2011 08:47 PM

it just doesnt make sense, i know vip is optional....but like i said before...its an disadvantage for the players with lower generation ipods/iphones...for example just like the gst tournaments....they stopped players from using pc....but allow players to sill use pads....obviously players with ipads and 4g's will do much better with faster speed/less lag...epecially the higher end players...all im saying is why do i have to pay 7500 to play pc on iclassic when it is clearly doable without

G Fatal 12-15-2011 08:54 PM

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Posted by Maikeru (Post 44315)
Oh now it needs a point? Its just a gift for having a VIP subscription!
And don't forget that there is going to be more VIP exclusive content on the way (Not only the gifts but there could be places and shops only VIP players can access)..

Seriously... Wtf is up with you guys? You only appreciate these items if its got to do with some type of quest or event? This morph can juggle! This is the first morph in iClassic that does this! I think thats more than enough to like it!

ofcourse things need a point to it otherwise its pointless in my opinion!...
great this one(panda) can juggle; this i like cause atleast its something different so GOOD JOB warrlordd, but what about the other ones? also why would anyone want a million different mounts when you can only ride one at a time anyway? I exspect some things with a difference not repetertive stuff; this is what makes the game boring and dull. This isnt much about the Panda itself it's about the progress graal is making(they arn't with repetertive updates)

Players will allways exspect. This is a MMO game so it is meant to keep updating with DIFFERENT stuff.

Maikeru 12-15-2011 09:49 PM

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Posted by whoamI (Post 44338)
it just doesnt make sense, i know vip is optional....but like i said before...its an disadvantage for the players with lower generation ipods/iphones...for example just like the gst tournaments....they stopped players from using pc....but allow players to sill use pads....obviously players with ipads and 4g's will do much better with faster speed/less lag...epecially the higher end players...all im saying is why do i have to pay 7500 to play pc on iclassic when it is clearly doable without

Its not PC. Its a facebook version thats compatible with the iClassic version... because its the same thing but with a few exclusive changes

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Posted by Higbey (Post 44330)
thats like saying a flight is free because the ticket and seat and baggage fees are optional.

and id like to see whatever 70-80 buck subscription for iphone games youve been seeing.
its a game without real content, and until stefan starts getting scripters and paying them its gonna ****ing stay that way, we all know it.

Wow... First off, thats a terrible comparison... You need the ticket to go on the flight... What do you need to get on Graal? Gralat packs? The + version of the app is 3 bucks.. the rest are completely optional

Seriously... Your comparisons are terrible... You need to stop comparing..
If you were expecting professional crap, you might aswell pack your things and leave both the forum and the app...

Look at the play... Look at the quests... Look at everything in this game...
This is just the beginning... You can keep asking but thats not gonna be there for a long time there... Higbey.. Do us a favor... Instead of begging for content and Go apesh*t over Stefan and Unixmad... Take the time to actually look at the content and accept it for what it is...

Sure we're gonna see similar content over and over again...
But dude... This isn't World of Warcraft or some PC MMO...
You gotta wait till they can actually pull off requested content like this...

And let me tell you this again: You can choose how you want to play the game and what you want to buy. Don't like the content it has to offer? Don't buy it and wait for more content to come. Still not happy? Then don't play the game. Thats it..

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Posted by Gricey (Post 44342)
ofcourse things need a point to it otherwise its pointless in my opinion!...
great this one(panda) can juggle; this i like cause atleast its something different so GOOD JOB warrlordd, but what about the other ones? also why would anyone want a million different mounts when you can only ride one at a time anyway? I exspect some things with a difference not repetertive stuff; this is what makes the game boring and dull. This isnt much about the Panda itself it's about the progress graal is making(they arn't with repetertive updates)

Players will allways exspect. This is a MMO game so it is meant to keep updating with DIFFERENT stuff.

Boring and dull? Same content? This is just like this post all over again:

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Posted by Xavier (Post 44299)
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Posted by Cabbage (Post 43343)
Long time watcher and first time poster. I was very excited when the garden and the forest quests came. Cool items that we didn't have to pay for and even the theater was exciting but the GST was scrapped and that's pretty much the only event we were all looking forward to. why did it get cancelled? There was the big promised update in the crypt but all that changed is the color of the flame. why is it purple? Was that the big update?

The new baddies are fun but they hardly drop any money and when the penguins and turkeys were added we expected them to fight and even drop some tokens but instead they go on roofs and tables.

The game is becoming nothing more than a social network now. Please bring real updates. I keep seeing new admins but all they do is ban people for lagging. Are we actually going to get anything like the dark garden or the deadwood forest?

None of the last 19 news updates had anything to do with hats, and you still say they're being lazy? (22 days since the last news update was for hats) :sarcastic:

So you're basically just arguing just because you can?

I guess people can never be pleased...

Stop arguing and play the game! Don't like VIP? Don't buy it. And VIP has nothing to do with the actual updates...

Yephenpeace 12-15-2011 09:58 PM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 44330)
thats like saying a flight is free because the ticket and seat and baggage fees are optional.

and id like to see whatever 70-80 buck subscription for iphone games youve been seeing.
its a game without real content, and until stefan starts getting scripters and paying them its gonna ****ing stay that way, we all know it.

But a ticket and seat fee isn't optional... So that isn't even a comparison at all. You don't need VIP to play Graal, it's a perk you can choose to take part in or not.

Higbey 12-15-2011 09:58 PM

its one of the only updates. and considering Stefan and Unixmad are living off our money one would think that they should try to make the game better and please players since without us they run out of money.

the "dont play if you dont like it" mindset doesnt work because of that, because if things dont get better people will leave, and the player count will stay low, and graal will go no where. for some reason Stefan and Unixmad are okay with that.

really dude, it seems like your really opposed to it actually changing for the better. maybe people have become used to games only having overpriced graphics that do nothing and no content?

anyway, as I said, this panda is okay, but idle animations shouldnt be what is being focused on, maybe making morphs or ganis that do something usefull or game changing would be were to go, but finding scripters will be hard because Stefan and Unixmad wont pay them.

whoamI 12-15-2011 10:32 PM

its still graal...pc version or iphone version...what was i suppose to expect?..i was use to gaining more hearts, leveling up sword....questing for useful items (joltbombs, superbombs, fireball, etc)...maybe they should of named it something else if they wanted to keep it a social app >.<

Yephenpeace 12-15-2011 10:39 PM

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Posted by whoamI (Post 44378)
its still graal...pc version or iphone version...what was i suppose to expect?..i was use to gaining more hearts, leveling up sword....questing for useful items (joltbombs, superbombs, fireball, etc)...maybe they should of named it something else if they wanted to keep it a social app >.<

It's not just a social app... There's much more to do.

whoamI 12-15-2011 11:15 PM

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Posted by Yephenpeace (Post 44383)
It's not just a social app... There's much more to do.

lol i know....didnt you read our previous posts >.<

Muttslaughter 12-15-2011 11:24 PM

Post removed:by me
Reason: unnecessary and off topic....wait what's the topic again?

MrSimons 12-16-2011 12:16 AM

Ok so VIP and panda is useless and should be removed right? Then I guess hats, guild houses, furniture, and almost every item should be removed to because they are all useless right? NO so please just shut up, No one on earth cares if you guys hate VIP items or VIP, so shut up and go cry to your mother about it not us.

whoamI 12-16-2011 12:33 AM

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Posted by Mr.$imons (Post 44423)
Ok so VIP and panda is useless and should be removed right? Then I guess hats, guild houses, furniture, and almost every item should be removed to because they are all useless right? NO so please just shut up, No one on earth cares if you guys hate VIP items or VIP, so shut up and go cry to your mother about it not us.

clearly a 12 year old =)

Izarin 12-16-2011 12:41 AM

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Posted by whoamI (Post 44430)
clearly a 12 year old =)

Clearly not able to read.

How many people have basically said "Shut up and stay on topic," in more or less words? Need me to say it better? Want it to pop up?




STAY ON TOPIC. Or get out :)

Now,a bit more on my opinion so this isn't just adding to the off-topicness. I love the juggle, but I wish it worked when we say :sit. And, again, the back is kinda funny. :)

Higbey 12-16-2011 12:44 AM

the threads topic has lead to this, if a new topic had to be made everytime someone goes off topic the forum would be flooded, plus this current topic is much better than some poll about the panda

whoamI 12-16-2011 12:44 AM

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Posted by Izarin Rofocale (Post 44434)
Clearly not able to read.

How many people have basically said "Shut up and stay on topic," in more or less words? Need me to say it better? Want it to pop up?




STAY ON TOPIC. Or get out :)

Now,a bit more on my opinion so this isn't just adding to the off-topicness. I love the juggle, but I wish it worked when we say :sit. And, again, the back is kinda funny. :)


i did stay on topic, if you dont like what you read then dont, the truth sucks but hey what can you do

Izarin 12-16-2011 12:49 AM

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Posted by whoamI (Post 44436)
i did stay on topic until i saw little kids crying...including you

Can you explain how I'm crying?

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Posted by Izarin Rofocale (Post 44331)
I think that you guys should just rate the panda and stop arguing. I'd hate for this to get locked before other people can state their opinions.

I'm even playing nice today.

Gambit Drakul 12-16-2011 02:10 AM

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Posted by whoamI (Post 44140)
i complain about it because its the only way i can play on pc....or else i have to deal with major lag....and im not gonna buy an ipad just for graal...that is the reason why i complain =)

and not once did it say anything about the panda, all i said was vip items are pointless



You want my advice dude?If you dislike VIP so much because you think their items are "useless" then shut up use your 2g iPod deal with the lag and then you'll be one less little duffle bag boy we'll be hearing lip from.

whoamI 12-16-2011 02:17 AM

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Posted by Gambit Drakul (Post 44466)
You want my advice dude?If you dislike VIP so much because you think their items are "useless" then shut up use your 2g iPod deal with the lag and then you'll be one less little duffle bag boy we'll be hearing lip from.

never asked for your advice, dude "stay on topic"

Maikeru 12-16-2011 03:25 AM

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Posted by whoamI (Post 44430)
clearly a 12 year old =)

Still, hes got a point..
If the Panda and VIP are useless, then the rest of the items are...
Just like the Panda Morph, they all don't have a reason..

You're clearly looking to start a fight with a couple of members (as i see it now)..

Again, if you don't like VIP or the Panda, don't buy them. They're completely optional... Simple as that..

whoamI 12-16-2011 03:33 AM

just to be clear im not looking to start a fight, and i apologize if it seems like that to anyone...im just stating my opinion...not like anything will happen anyways...but ill leave it at that


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