Meph and I got in a discussion about how bad iEra has gotten, and it led me to deduce an entirely new staff team. Note this is entirely ideal, not going to happen. Also, you may be wondering, why did x get this position while y didn't? It's based on ACTIVITY as well as SKILL.

Without further adieu:

http://pastebin.com/uhqew27d

oops forgot sound guys

Hattrix (PrAzE AnArChY) - Sound Admin

Milkshake (?) - Sound Artist

iMask (?) - Sound Artist

so much staff

so much players

28 PR'S???

LMFAO

Who, who, and who?

Era has 36 prs, though.

So much staff...

And every time I log into iEra I see almost nothing changed.

Do 60% of all staff just wanna AFK in style?

The minute I saw you put yourself as Developer Admin, I couldn't take the rest of the list seriously.

I wanna say...it's just a damn comedy.

Lmao...

My thoughts exactly.

I don't understand what you're expecting, it's not like you're going to log onto Era every day and find a massive game-changing update. Development on Graal is never really fast on any server, staff members have lives and real jobs.

Yeah, he deserves owner at the very least.

bc i know what the hell i'm doing in every area of development and i'm more active than 90% of all current devs

rofl

pls tell me your extensive knowledge of scrum, agile, and waterfall methodologies as well as the others needed to effectively and efficiently manage a team of developers

pls

Just because you can do well in dev and be active doesn't mean you can manage effectively. Graal is a weird place where management and participant overlap, that doesn't happen many other places. If you can't manage, you shouldn't be in a management position. I don't give a **** about how active you are or "how well you can dev." That is exactly the reason I would keep you at a dev position and never rank you anything higher.

I don't know much about managing a team but at least I admit it, lmao

i like the part where he says he's a good dev

Edit: People who have hissy fits after being fired from a server aren't suited for any kind of management. A lot of us older staff witnessed your hissy fit.

Hissy fit? rofl please enlighten me dude

Give me a lighter and I will.
But seriously, you're a dev? I think watching some banging is better than this.

What

Pfft, I know someone better than 90%, it's 99%

Hi.

Where's calli and jatz in that list? They work a lot more than I do these days.

Plus your list has a lot of cons.

Because I'm not very active on Graal. I log in and help out every few days or so when I get really bored, but other than that I prioritise my life over Graal. I have other projects that I'm currently working on that aren't a complete waste of my time, which actually pay me to contribute to, rather than accepting work I do, making money off of it and not giving me a cent.

The main reason I help out on iEra is because of nostalgia, as well as the friendships I have made through Graal.

I can also only do GS2 in small stints, because it's such a horrible language I get mad after extended use.

but srsly darkknight im offended y u no think im good enuf for ur pointless list. 1v1 me i bet i could write cleaner, more efficient code than you anyday. pls respond, ur opinion is super important to me.

I bet you could, good thing stefan is the only person that needs to know how to code on the server and the rest is all scripting!

http://gifstumblr.com/images/you-are...nsult_1171.gif


Nope.

I'm done.

Show me one place where I need to know java on graal and i will applaud you

The terms "Code" and "Script" aren't mutually exclusive. Scripts are literally just Source Code for an interpreter, in this case, Graal's VM.

Please stop embarrassing yourself.

how did this turn into a flame thread

oh wait its original purpose was to flame the staff team

whoops i forgot

Ya this thread is a waste of time, I'm done posting in this.

I'll just leave that here...

Oh, I saw someone I had never heard of listed as Dev Admin. This explains it.

I place a debate, on this thread that it's not progressing in at particular form/way.
Just another waste of time in everybody's life, go home.

A lot of those names are in the wrong positions lool :[

What's there to even discuss in this thread?

I'm assuming that's a horrible attempt at a snide remark. If so, it's a quite foolish one as well. I've heard of him, barely anything, but I'm vaguely aware who he is. And even if I didn't, humans tend to judge each other by reputation. And there's a good reason why we've done this our entire existence. I haven't heard of him because of his reputation for developing, nor his reputation for managing. If he doesn't have a substantially preceding reputation for either of these areas, logic would imply that he's maybe not the best for for a position which requires both no?

Absolutely nothing.
It's just that people on this forum love to disapprove propositions made. But in this situation, it's perfectly fine to disapprove DK's proposition.

Wowwwwwww

This list is really accurate and I really support this. I don't know why you guys are bashing him.End sarcasm

No me as PR(A)? This list is obviously horrible and should be ignored 150%. kthxbai

Well obviously this list is biased so there's really no point arguing over it.

Maybe ya'll can stop whining and try to develop for a better game.

This thread is pretty much the same as telling your 30 college girlfriends that they're all equally smart and beautiful while secretly you wish you had dated some other person.

GS1 is a replica of old java. Facebook Graal also uses Java. -snk

Oppa AFK Style......

*player is afk*

It isnt April

I see that my name was dropped in the OP, so I feel it necessary to save face, since some people have been approaching me in-game asking me about this "list".

While I agree that some names on that list are did a great job in their respective positions, we need to face the reality that they're just a piece of Era development history, and acknowledge them as mentors that taught those who are teaching our present generation. We shouldn't limit the list, or even label it as "ideal", because for all we know, the next best person could be lurking within anybody reading this post right now.

It's inevitable for the baton to be passed. I'm one of about four first-generation(2002) Era players still around. If we shut out people that came after me, most of those mentioned on your list would have never gotten a chance to flourish. It's because we enabled them to join the ranks, learn, and practice their crafts to perfection that they achieved success. Their success paved the way for the next generation to succeed.

Instead of masterfully devising a "hall-of-fame" of staff, I'd rather focus my energies continuing to train the next generation to hold the positions with the same zeal that the "hall-of-famers" did.

It's for this reason that I put so much effort in my forum posts whenever I talk about gangs, guns, PKing, or basing. I'm very open in sharing my stance on these topics because I feel that it's my job to educate the next generation on my craft. It's my job to document and teach what has happened in the past, as well as the mission statements and ideologies that will keep the server flourishing in the future.

It's very likely that these posts will be around longer than I will. If PKing or Guns on this server ever hit rock bottom, there will be a circle of people wondering how to improve PKing, what to do with guns, or what went wrong. Even if I'm no longer around, referencing my posts would be enough of a starting point to jump the engine, get it going in the right direction, and provide the tools to keep it going in the future.

In regard to my conversation with DK, I mainly pointed out fallacies I see in guns today, and publicly touched on most of those in a thread on era-go.

Below is a citation for anybody interested in reading further.
http://era-go.com/forum/showthread.p...losive-weapons

^stop taking Era so seriously

People take era too seriously

Considering that we're developing products that hundreds of consumers are spending hundreds of dollars on, I would expect nothing less than for people in my position to take the job seriously.

Yeah people spend hundreds of dollars but how many "hundreds of dollars" do you get?

Zero, which is the reason why most of Graal's talented developers end up pursuing their own projects.