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Fulgore 05-30-2014 01:25 PM

GST Dream Team (different from prediction)
 
If you could manage an entire roster for the GST, which players out of everyone (old and new) would you all have on your team to win? Keep in mind that guild spar is very different than normal spar, have fun thinking and debating. Listing reasons why would be cool too.

Kosma 05-30-2014 01:44 PM

You know I was actually thinking of starting a thread like this, clearly you're also damaged by fantasy leagues :). Lets make it more fun and say you cant pick anyone from your own existing GST team, or maybe max 1. I'm in UoE so I get to pick Apostles members.

Not gonna overthink it, and I'm not gonna go with inactive people, but my team would be this


6jack9(Apostles)
ptjenova(Apostles)
Skull (Deity)
Dante (Alumni)
Aserus(SLX)
Subs would be:
Dae (Deity)
sarah (Alumni)

Aserus would probably be the one getting rotated out for subs, unless I wanted a mix-up then Jack and Dante would get subbed for a more defensive line-up.

David M. 05-30-2014 01:51 PM

Hmong Comyt Kentaro Killman Noss iJesus

Kuz 05-30-2014 01:53 PM

Jack,PT,Thallen,Quiondre,Sarah

Jack=Just a pure beast and is a deadly gser.
PT=Well Jack and PT are by far one of the deadliest Duo's in GS, you can't simply have 1 without the other.
Thallen=Offensive Tank can get them hits in where it looks impossible.
Quiondre=Just will own you hardcore. Has good co-ordination and can improvise in the situation.
Sarah=One of the best clutchers in the game if she's the last person alive in your team don't worry she'll find a way to win.

On Sub I'd have Dante and Exalt.

Thallen 05-30-2014 02:32 PM

not gonna include myself

Sarah - was 30k-7k at one point so wins more than anyone on Graal, never dies in GS, practices more than anyone, is the most active sparrer, listens well
Ares - will 1 vs. 2 anyone pretty much, finds your weakest player and wrecks them
Dante - has a unique style and probably swings sword more than anyone, turns and hits really quickly, will go 1:1 at minimum
David - same as Ares kinda, just a little less offensive and maybe more safe in regards to his health
Abood - about 80% of what Sarah is as a sparrer, which is still better than 99% of people
Kouji - can play on any device, is generally pretty confident about every spar, randomly just owns people and gets like 12 hits in a round

last spot, either Eko or Aserus
probably not the best list overall, but trying to mix in iDevices and PCs
if attitudes and personalities were out of the way then my list might be different, but that's obviously a huge part of any team

Edit:
Quote:

Posted by Kosma (Post 477419)
Lets make it more fun and say you cant pick anyone from your own existing GST team, or maybe max 1.

oh
I'll redo a list later or something

Distorted 05-30-2014 02:47 PM

I mean I don't know about you guys but I've seen the leader of wings take down whole teams solo.

Fulgore 05-30-2014 03:48 PM

I would first think to the old pc sparrers if my gut feeling that they would do worse in guild spar didn't kick in. If I had to make a team:

Core

Ares
Brett
Dante
Praydoh
Thallen

Sub

CC
Ph8

It's obviously very hard to pick, and many of these may not be attuned to gs as they're oldies. I'll post another team with newer players later.

MattKan 05-30-2014 04:21 PM

I would just pick Rufus since he apparently "rigs" all the tournaments. Insta-win!

meganey98 05-30-2014 05:57 PM

Girl iDevice Dream Team! :3
Cores: Cookie, Cally, Kelsie, Lia, Pkay
Subs: Nadine, Tabby

Every single member I listed knows how to work as a team. :)

GOAT 05-30-2014 08:16 PM

friends
Bart
mono
mimi
roxy
cherry

subs
simple-z
rafa

or

non-friends
Tokyo boy
Kata
killman
barbie
point

subs
rashaaaaaaard
greenarrow

Thallen 05-31-2014 12:09 AM

Quote:

Posted by meganey98 (Post 477450)
Girl iDevice Dream Team! :3
Cores: Cookie, Cally, Kelsie, Lia, Pkay
Subs: Nadine, Tabby

Every single member I listed knows how to work as a team. :)

sorry but any list like that without Sarah is biased/incorrect and that's not even an opinion
probably the best iDevice GSer overall, not just female
maybe best overall GSer, IDK

meganey98 05-31-2014 01:14 AM

Quote:

Posted by Thallen (Post 477503)
sorry but any list like that without Sarah is biased/incorrect and that's not even an opinion
probably the best iDevice GSer overall, not just female
maybe best overall GSer, IDK

Best idevice gser? Keep your opinion out. She can't even beat me during 5v5.

Winter 05-31-2014 02:18 AM

let's not turn this into a "who can beat who" thread now.

Sariss 05-31-2014 02:30 AM

Quote:

Posted by Thallen (Post 477503)
sorry but any list like that without Sarah is biased/incorrect and that's not even an opinion
probably the best iDevice GSer overall, not just female
maybe best overall GSer, IDK

This is "dream team" as in the team you want, not unnecessarily the best.

Ken 05-31-2014 02:30 AM

lets not nitpick at other people's lists as well

Thallen 05-31-2014 02:51 AM

Quote:

Posted by Sariss (Post 477529)
This is "dream team" as in the team you want, not unnecessarily the best.

I mean, if your dream is to lose, I guess? I kinda thought that's what the term "dream team" was derived from.
I won't post my opinion anymore if it offends people!

iHot 05-31-2014 02:52 AM

Quote:

Posted by Winter (Post 477523)
let's not turn this into a "who can beat who" thread now.

These threads may as well have been created by Lucifer himself. They always end up becoming a battlefield of hate.

Sariss 05-31-2014 02:53 AM

Quote:

Posted by Thallen (Post 477531)
I mean, if your dream is to lose, I guess? I kinda thought that's what the term "dream team" was derived from.

Some people would rather have fun with their friends then win with strangers (omg shocker)

Thallen 05-31-2014 02:57 AM

Quote:

Posted by Sariss (Post 477533)
Some people would rather have fun with their friends then win with strangers (omg shocker)

Quote:

Posted by Fulgore (Post 477414)
If you could manage an entire roster for the GST, which players out of everyone (old and new) would you all have on your team to win?

I'm just obeying the thread, nothing to get snippy or mad over



Quote:

Posted by iHot (Post 477532)
These threads may as well have been created by Lucifer himself. They always end up becoming a battlefield of hate.

Yeah, IDK
People get offended over things that they shouldn't when it's only a discussion

Colin 05-31-2014 03:14 AM

Thallen's right too, hell if I could I would bring Sarah to a Japanese Cloning Facility and make 5 copies of her, that team would be really really hard to beat.

P.S that wasn't meant as a racist remark, Japanese people just have the most known cloning experiences.

Kosma 05-31-2014 03:22 AM

That feeling when there's a page 2 but you already know without looking there are no new dream team lists to read :(

Sariss 05-31-2014 03:34 AM

Quote:

Posted by Colin (Post 477540)
Thallen's right too, hell if I could I would bring Sarah to a Japanese Cloning Facility and make 5 copies of her, that team would be really really hard to beat.

P.S that wasn't meant as a racist remark, Japanese people just have the most known cloning experiences.

Lol, Colin :P
Quote:

Posted by Kosma (Post 477543)
That feeling when there's a page 2 but you already know without looking there are no new dream team lists to read :(

I'll stop posting here. Spar flame wars are just bad.

DarkKnight 05-31-2014 03:41 AM

Antago
Dayson
Thor
TheJames
Stephen
TimUrlacher
Swift
Paul

Blueh 05-31-2014 11:37 AM

Good friends, that's all.

Zerxus 05-31-2014 12:21 PM

Primetime
Thallen
Pendragon
Bradd
David

Yeah I only picked those I sparred and have a hard time beating.

Deophite 05-31-2014 02:01 PM

Neo Jenova
Brett
Ares
Zodiac Bloodvayne
Shizty

Subs:
Shadowlust
Magnus Chill (the real one not the fake one running around iclassic)

Crono 05-31-2014 04:00 PM

Ares
Brett
Prado
Thallen
Crono DUH!!!

Subs: Rufus (must be a sub), winter (only a sub), and Crono OF COURSE!!!

actually just do crono x5 for gst

Doublelift8 05-31-2014 07:29 PM

Dream team: KicKo, pkay, Tykian, Jagger Mamba, Ozeki

I said, Kicko, pkay, tykian, jagger mamba, and ozeki

Pal 05-31-2014 11:01 PM

I would want a whole bunch of delayers, wallers, and laggers, on my team, that way we will never lose!

GOAT 06-01-2014 12:21 AM

Quote:

Posted by Pal (Post 477691)
I would want a whole bunch of delayers, wallers, and laggers, on my team, that way we will never lose!

Nessa would raip them. Megan aka soyi is super pro delayer killer

Colin 06-01-2014 12:30 AM

Quote:

Posted by GOAT (Post 477723)
Nessa would raip them. Megan aka soyi is super pro delayer killer


Nessa came first :D

GOAT 06-01-2014 12:43 AM

Quote:

Posted by Colin (Post 477727)
Nessa came first :D

ya i was able to see the second half of the gst and i saw them beat a couple teams that are accused of being delayers. comet might be a man-baby but hes actually pretty good at putting teams together.

Colin 06-01-2014 12:45 AM

Ironically there was a guy standing outside GST saying women shouldn't be able to join because they are just dead space, guess who beat his guild?

GOAT 06-01-2014 12:51 AM

Quote:

Posted by Colin (Post 477732)
Ironically there was a guy standing outside GST saying women shouldn't be able to join because they are just dead space, guess who beat his guild?

lol you should have taken a screenshot


but now that you bring the women subject, there was a whole bunch of pro girls in the gst.

Colin 06-01-2014 12:52 AM

Yeah, Northern Signs was full of them.

twilit 06-01-2014 04:42 AM

I'd rather not mix and match a patchwork team. The point of GST and gs in general is teamwork.

Sometimes i watch guild spars and a team will have a random collection of good sparrers, but they walk all over eachother and get in eachothers way because they arent used to the others' spar styles.

P1 06-01-2014 02:05 PM

Spent a bit of time thinking about this, it was pretty difficult to pick only seven players but here my "dream team".

Core:

Thallen - Smart and hes accustomed to different styles and knows how to beat the majority of them
PrimeTime - Hes one of the players I don't like facing in guild spar, hes smart about his movements and does well in teaming others and staying alive
Dante - His GST record speaks for itself really
Clops - No one person has ever taught me more about guild sparring than him, in terms of tactics and spotting great guild sparrers he was light years ahead of everyone else
Ph8 - One of the best clutchers in guild sparring, if he practiced a little more I'd have no doubt that he'd win at least one GST

Subs:

Felix - A very versatile player that you can put into any situation and he'll adapt quickly
Sarah - Because I'm sure people would much rather have her on their team than against them

Comyt 06-01-2014 09:16 PM

me, eddy, tae, yurhomi, shiden, noss, ____
this has been my dream team for years, this isn't biased since they have all been sage members at one point, there is a reason why i recruited them to sage and not anyone else listed in this thread. i don't care about recruiting laggy players because they don't guarantee a win, as shown by nessa destroying both 5pa4 and alumni.
for the empty space, i don't know who i would recruit. the other 6 are s-tier players to me, and i would have to settle for one of my few a-tier players. possibly ijesus, haze, kouji, or roxas. they are not completely there yet but they are more skilled than everyone else in the game.

i don't care about a "mixed dream team" because idevice has always been the more competitive gst(and the favored one), but i would probably use ares, magnetic, and talbourn.

GOAT 06-01-2014 11:53 PM

Quote:

Posted by Comyt (Post 477950)
as shown by nessa destroying both 5pa4 and alumni.

you sound relieved. i have a feeling your lost to 'everyone' a couple gst's ago haunted you until Saturday.
But dont get carried away, nessa did beat them but it wasnt by destruction. good series though.




Quote:

Posted by Comyt (Post 477950)
i don't care about a "mixed dream team" because idevice has always been the more competitive gst(and the favored one), but i would probably use ares, magnetic, and talbourn.

in the device vs pc argument you were all over thallen's nuts and now you leave him out your roster. interesting

Thallen 06-02-2014 12:10 AM

Don't get him started, you wouldn't want him typing 6 paragraphs of angry personal attacks towards you over a question or opinion regarding Graal

I sat and thought about any possibilities for a "dream team" that doesn't include people who were a part of either of my GSTs and couldn't come up with anything that I think I want to post, because I think it'd be kind of underwhelming

But like I said in my original post, I do think Aserus, Kouji, and a few others like Deophite, Red Leo, and Cookie are good
I don't think Kevin has ever won a GST, but I feel like if he cared to participate and got with a cooperative team, he could be really good - I'm not a huge believer in the "you're a good sparrer but not a good GSer" argument, and I don't feel like winning a GST proves a whole lot in the grand scheme of things

Edit: Junior wasn't on our GST team because he claimed he could only be around for 1-2 hours, and I think he's one of the best iDevice GSers, so toss him in there

Comyt 06-02-2014 01:23 AM

i then realized that literally all thallen does in spar is swing head-on, walk backwards, and reset. my gst teams include only skilled sparrers, no gimmicks involved.

Thallen 06-02-2014 01:37 AM

must have worked when I 15-3'd you in the US days, and I'm always down to do it again whenever you are, leggo
:3

please don't call me mean names, it hurts my feelings

Comyt 06-02-2014 01:52 AM

no thanks dude, i'd rather not associate myself with you at all. still, please stop posting things on the forum talking about me or my guild. i don't enjoy getting into debates with you here and then having to keep checking back, then dominating you and then having you get so salty that you post even more about me. unlike you, i don't have a "graal is life" point of view and i don't care to enhance my online reputation and i don't want to waste my time arguing with some old guy online.

thank you. please don't reply to this, i don't want to have to come back. and you should look at every thread you've ever called me out in and then decide you don't want me to come back either.

Thallen 06-02-2014 01:54 AM

the only person on Graal who can call someone bad and then avoid them
literally scared over a video game, I do not understand at all

BACK TO THE DREAM TEAMS

Blueh 06-02-2014 01:58 AM

Quote:

Posted by Colin (Post 477732)
Ironically there was a guy standing outside GST saying women shouldn't be able to join because they are just dead space, guess who beat his guild?

Damn dood! Irony's a b*tch!

Comyt 06-02-2014 02:13 AM

im just trying to be the bigger man here, which is weird because you are way older than me. why do you have to be so dramatic? when will you realize that graal is just a game and stop taking it so seriously? i'm not trying to insult you here when i say this: you should really take like a week break and go outside and talk to people. graal is a game, it should be treated as a game. there is no need to put up some fake personality on it and act like you are a god. and you are not intimidating me at all so i don't know what you're talking about, we are all just people on the internet, there is nothing to be scared of. i used to be really cocky too but then i started experiencing more in life, you should try it.

you're welcome.

Sariss 06-02-2014 07:05 AM

Quote:

Posted by Thallen (Post 478004)
Don't get him started, you wouldn't want him typing 6 paragraphs of angry personal attacks towards you over a question or opinion regarding Graal

Oh, I wonder who that sounds like.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ryS01Ei80W...0/s1600/10.jpg

Kosma 06-02-2014 12:17 PM

Quote:

Posted by Comyt (Post 478044)
then having to keep checking back [...] i don't have a "graal is life" point of view [...] i don't want to waste my time arguing with some old guy online.

please don't reply to this, i don't want to have to come back.

Then dont? Dont really know either of you but I know a contradiction when I see one mate. Clearly you care just a bit.

Comyt 06-02-2014 12:20 PM

you don't understand what i meant while saying that, just stick with the "don't know either of you" part and don't argue with me.

Kosma 06-02-2014 12:39 PM

No probably not, I thought you meant you didn't care as in your time was too valuable to answer every comment some stranger makes on a game forum.


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