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kenthefruit 02-12-2014 05:44 AM

Era's Reputation
 
I haven't posted for awhile, but I decided this would be a great discussion to have.

My question is: Why is Era and its reputation so dreadful? I mean, I personally don't play Era, not sure why but I haven't. Yet, the development on there is constant and amazing. The graphics are also fantastic, they by far beat the other iServers in development. I have a general idea to why Era is infamous; Rude Players (Not all but most), Prices, and Corrupt Staff (iffy on this, because i dont play Era). But what's your guy's opinion? For me, Era is pretty good and beats the other servers.

Sariss 02-12-2014 05:48 AM

So far from what I've heard/seen: corrupt staff, despicable playerbase, overpriced stuff, overpowered stuff, nerfing of unnecessary things, pay2win, only major updates are holiday melee etc, way too many melees.

kenthefruit 02-12-2014 06:09 AM

How are melees a bad thing? To me, that's good. I love melees. The only high prices I've actually seen lately are on guns. Hats and melees seem to be quite cheap.

Kendama 02-12-2014 06:22 AM

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http://www.couleebank.net/images/upl...mo_Oct2012.jpg

http://moarpowah.com/wp-content/uplo...win-chart.jpeg

https://i.imgflip.com/is8.jpg

http://treasure.diylol.com/uploads/p...cam-1ca609.jpg

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Practically all of era summarized right here

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Sariss 02-12-2014 06:25 AM

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Posted by TwistedWizard (Post 452310)
How are melees a bad thing? To me, that's good. I love melees. The only high prices I've actually seen lately are on guns. Hats and melees seem to be quite cheap.

Well, a few realistic ones are fine. But the server is about guns, not running around with a crab dagger assassinating people.

Myst 02-12-2014 06:31 AM

bleh era is not great but its better than other servers.

fsh 02-12-2014 06:41 AM

sick of the bull**** community, sick of the so called "updates" (basically you kill special baddies and get some hats and melees), sick of staff, and sick of managment

Aaron 02-12-2014 08:19 AM

Hey y'all, I think Kendama hit it right on the nose.

DarkKnight 02-12-2014 01:42 PM

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/r...es-manager-snk

Tyler 02-12-2014 02:01 PM

Like mentioned, many players are rude and obnoxious. I don't know if they still have that "trading" system where you drop weapons, but people scam each other all the time with it. Most players will fart on you or call you a noob after they kill you with their 200k gun they got from Gralat Packs. I know a few of the staff members and they're nice people, but I don't know how the rest are. In general, I just don't like the gameplay of bullets flying everywhere from hundreds of players. I feel like the game is broken.

Johnaudi 02-12-2014 02:54 PM

Well, most haters are from Graalians.

MonicaLewinsky 02-12-2014 03:40 PM

These threads are almost as stupid as you.

John 02-12-2014 04:15 PM

The old community who represented most of era are long gone and the new wave of young players who are like between the ages of (10-14) are coming in each and everyday. It's not going to take a day for them to mature, but like most of us a couple years.

Era is my home server and I'll stand with it for the rest of my life.

Kendama 02-12-2014 05:32 PM

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Posted by John (Post 452360)
The old community who represented most of era are long gone and the new wave of young players who are like between the ages of (10-14) are coming in each and everyday. It's not going to take a day for them to mature, but like most of us a couple years.

Era is my home server and I'll stand with it for the rest of my life.

Thats quite a big devotion to a game who wants to milk you out of every last penny and then screw you over and nerf what you paid so much to get.

lord greg 02-12-2014 05:51 PM

Melees are too powerful and common so often get rid of the need for guns. That is why melees are bad.
The game isn't overly bad but parts of the community and certain staff give it a very bad reputation. However from what I have been told and noticed myself, most other servers have the same or similar types of people that make the community bad. Personally I think the reputation is due to people in the past thinking it was bad and telling people that and it just kind of stuck.

XSTARX 02-12-2014 05:53 PM

I never even pay $10 iTunes in era to get what I want.
It's best to get experience in something rather than being a lazy arse and pack like you own your country.

John 02-12-2014 06:38 PM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 452367)
Thats quite a big devotion to a game who wants to milk you out of every last penny and then screw you over and nerf what you paid so much to get.

Yeah more people have spent more money on Era than almost any server, but that's because the content is amazing. Don't get me wrong, but Classic is very close in sales to Era as well. The weapons that have been nerfed are still being used (PBP, Shipka) daily and people are still buying them. The bar does cost a hundred dollars, but what has been constantly said through out these whole years is that you don't need it to be the best, but rather then the M4 which takes little time to get be the only weapon you use for the entire game.

5hift 02-12-2014 08:09 PM

Getting cash in the game isn't very difficult...

However if you try getting 100k off trash picking for a new fancy gun;

Then you'll need some help from your moms credit card.

optimuswhat 02-12-2014 08:21 PM

People who constantly want to be famous act like a jerk to you.

Ghettoicedtea 02-12-2014 09:56 PM

well
bad weapon balancing
no skill needed to play
pay 2 win
melees that are so common, more common than guns.
horrible base layouts (all of the "upgraded" bases)
no teamwork anymore
terrible community
terrible staff
same bull**** excuses
GAs don't do anything but make gun skins
corrupted staff
favoritism from staff (although staff has done a good job at lowering the amount of favoritism though)
no new content, mostly the same kill this baddy thats like any other baddy and get a hat or melee
expensive AF
staff don't listen to players
slave wage jobs. We don't freakin live in africa where people work for pennies in a sweatshop
staff can't admit they goofed up and take responsibilty
shotguns are broken still
spar is the only place where you won't be torn to shreads by bars and pbps but sparrers are assholes.
can't speak your mind without being banned
lags like a mofo
only new content is holiday shops
era-go
basing has turned into whoever has the most people wins by flag rushing or whoever has the most BARs wins

DraGun 02-12-2014 10:56 PM

Era is an amazing iServer with great developmental progress. The community can be a bit bitter at times considering the majority of players are between the ages of 8 & 15. And sometime the outcome isn't quite pleasant. As for the staff, I've heard rumors of abusing and such but never witnessed or experienced it. They're actually more helpful than Classic GP's (no offense) lol.

XSTARX 02-12-2014 11:01 PM

Classic don't even have any cool things except the awesome 2-sitter mounts.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 02-12-2014 11:17 PM

I think of it this way, if you have bought a bar for $70, and still play this game after more than 2 years it isn't that bad of a deal. Yea sure its an ios game but consider the amount of hours you have in it (non afkers) and then compare to how many hours you have on other console games costing about the same, halo, cod, battlefield. If you choose to buy any other guns it's your choice, but if your new and you plan on playing this game for more than a year than investing $70 isn't really a rip off if you get a years worth of enjoyment from it.

But thatd just my view on it and whether or not you agree with it the day bar was released was the beginning of guns priced the way they are. I dont plan on releasing anything more expensive during my time as GA to at least stop things becoming more expensive than it already is

MrSimons 02-13-2014 12:52 AM

I don't like it because it takes ages to earn enough money to be good. And most updates look like reskins of past ones to me but idk I dont play enough to really say.

Kendama 02-13-2014 03:36 AM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 452436)
I think of it this way, if you have bought a bar for $70, and still play this game after more than 2 years it isn't that bad of a deal. Yea sure its an ios game but consider the amount of hours you have in it (non afkers) and then compare to how many hours you have on other console games costing about the same, halo, cod, battlefield. If you choose to buy any other guns it's your choice, but if your new and you plan on playing this game for more than a year than investing $70 isn't really a rip off if you get a years worth of enjoyment from it.

But thatd just my view on it and whether or not you agree with it the day bar was released was the beginning of guns priced the way they are. I dont plan on releasing anything more expensive during my time as GA to at least stop things becoming more expensive than it already is

That's just wrong. Real life money shouldn't equal how good you are in a game you already bought

BEH0LD iTz SAM 02-13-2014 03:39 AM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 452486)
That's just wrong. Real life money shouldn't equal how good you are in a game you already bought

I never said it does, i just used bar as an example because its the strongest gun and easiest to use, some people make do with just the 12k acr and a holiday melee

Sariss 02-13-2014 04:35 AM

This thread was just doomed from get-go.

NeoZX 02-13-2014 05:57 AM

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Posted by Sariss (Post 452498)
This forum section was just doomed from get-go.

Fixed.

PoeticFolly 02-13-2014 06:54 AM

Holy ****. It's a ****ing iPhone game. If you don't like it then don't play it. It's as simple as that. Writing a ****ing iPetition to remove the manager who is actually a nice guy isn't going to do anything. Sitting here bitching about the game isn't going to do anything. If you say you hate it so much yet still play it, then you're stupid. I personally don't play era or graal for that matter. It's not that hard to quit.

Most of you guys are spoiled, whiny children. It's annoying

Kendama 02-13-2014 07:28 AM

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Posted by PoeticFolly (Post 452532)
Holy ****. It's a ****ing iPhone game. If you don't like it then don't play it. It's as simple as that. Writing a ****ing iPetition to remove the manager who is actually a nice guy isn't going to do anything. Sitting here bitching about the game isn't going to do anything. If you say you hate it so much yet still play it, then you're stupid. I personally don't play era or graal for that matter. It's not that hard to quit.

Most of you guys are spoiled, whiny children. It's annoying

http://www.breakingbadgifs.com/gifs/...berg-56281.gif

Rozen S 02-13-2014 07:37 AM

Quote:

Posted by PoeticFolly (Post 452532)
Holy ****. It's a ****ing iPhone game. If you don't like it then don't play it. It's as simple as that. Writing a ****ing iPetition to remove the manager who is actually a nice guy isn't going to do anything. Sitting here bitching about the game isn't going to do anything. If you say you hate it so much yet still play it, then you're stupid. I personally don't play era or graal for that matter. It's not that hard to quit.

Most of you guys are spoiled, whiny children. It's annoying

Omg this, people keep bagging on the game and then come crawling back. I mean just writing paragraphs of just hatred over a game, really? These people probably do more work writing bad things about Era then they do in their own regular homework.

Kendama 02-13-2014 07:46 AM

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Posted by Rozen S (Post 452548)
Omg this, people keep bagging on the game and then come crawling back. I mean just writing paragraphs of just hatred over a game, really? These people probably do more work writing bad things about Era then they do in their own regular homework.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SHJ1VK_tnz...pired%2BMe.jpg

Richard 02-13-2014 10:14 AM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 452367)
Thats quite a big devotion to a game who wants to milk you out of every last penny and then screw you over and nerf what you paid so much to get.

Second that. I left a long time ago, wouldn't come back either.

Well I take that back, I actually did for the free Christmas weapon upgrades. Then i realized how what I was doing was so stupidly redundant that I had to give it up. That and the mass PBP nuke a year ago (?) still left a bad taste in my mouth. I since see they've been bought by another company, good luck ... Yeah. not really.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 02-13-2014 10:17 AM

Eurocenter still runs graal/era, they just changed their name to something weird i cant remember

Richard 02-13-2014 10:18 AM

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Posted by Rozen S (Post 452548)
Omg this, people keep bagging on the game and then come crawling back. I mean just writing paragraphs of just hatred over a game, really? These people probably do more work writing bad things about Era then they do in their own regular homework.

This sentence will take me 5 seconds to write. This game sucks, and I mean hard .. Like. I mean it really really sucks. Anyway I'd love to preoccupy myself with writing bad things about Era but you're right, I have better things to do.

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 452559)
Eurocenter still runs graal/era, they just changed their name to something weird i cant remember

I never liked Europeans anyway, that whole side of the hemisphere creeps me the heck out.

Jester Lapse 02-13-2014 10:37 AM

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Posted by PoeticFolly (Post 452532)
Holy ****. It's a ****ing iPhone game. If you don't like it then don't play it. It's as simple as that. Writing a ****ing iPetition to remove the manager who is actually a nice guy isn't going to do anything. Sitting here bitching about the game isn't going to do anything. If you say you hate it so much yet still play it, then you're stupid. I personally don't play era or graal for that matter. It's not that hard to quit.

Most of you guys are spoiled, whiny children. It's annoying

ily


iEra is the better server of all the current iServers imo

Dark Ice Cream 02-13-2014 11:52 AM

I <3 iEra
I <3 iZone
I <3 iClassic
What about iDelt? XD
iEra is good, all devs are good, just the management about prices and fun

XSTARX 02-13-2014 11:57 AM

It was fun till all those 2012-2014 people came out from their parent's wallet and ruin everything.
First gun refunds, next buff/nerfing issues, then "I want to be adiam. Vote for me!".
This is why a game can't be fun with people acting like their better than you despite having to play like 1-2 years.

Vivid 02-13-2014 12:48 PM

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Posted by TwistedWizard (Post 452301)
I haven't posted for awhile, but I decided this would be a great discussion to have.

My question is: Why is Era and its reputation so dreadful? I mean, I personally don't play Era, not sure why but I haven't. Yet, the development on there is constant and amazing. The graphics are also fantastic, they by far beat the other iServers in development. I have a general idea to why Era is infamous; Rude Players (Not all but most), Prices, and Corrupt Staff (iffy on this, because i dont play Era). But what's your guy's opinion? For me, Era is pretty good and beats the other servers.

Ples make guns cheapr. Unless $30 for one gun is a good deal.

It's a good game and all, just I kinda don't wanna give that much money so I can get a kill.

Rozen S 02-13-2014 03:28 PM

Quote:

Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 452559)
Eurocenter still runs graal/era, they just changed their name to something weird i cant remember

ToonSlab, something of the sorts.

Ghettoicedtea 02-13-2014 05:34 PM

kendama needs to stop trying to be fsh

Dark Ice Cream 02-14-2014 10:51 AM

Kendama is Fsh
(sh*t happens)

Talon 02-14-2014 05:46 PM

I'm late, but I don't give a ****. I felt like addressing this thread since I've got some time. First off, let's identify the two core problems surrounding Era's current (vilified) reputation amongst the Graal community. While the two issues aren't on equal ground per say, they are both very common problems that many online games - especially MMOs - are plagued with today; it just seems to be more extreme and prevalent in Era. The two core problems that I mentioned are:

A: The overall immaturity in the community
B: Forced grind game mechanics

Let's begin by discussing the first issue. The immaturity in the community across the entire game is absolutely undeniable - spend more than ten minutes walking around or even two minutes in Start Park or Astros, and you'll witness one of the following and probably much more: players presumably under 18 crudely asking for lewd pictures, players spamming disgusting, vulgar and racist language in gleeful joy after getting kills, among other beautiful sights such as players spamming "n00b fk" in all caps in a pitiful attempt at an insult after dying. Era is simply the type of game - a mindless and effortless shooter that's an MMO no less - that attracts these types of toxic players, and that's simply the nature of the game. Sorry to say and not to offend, but judging by a large amount of players' reactions to things like PKing or dying in a spar, the mindless mechanics (2D joystick shooting) of the game are a strong reflection of the mental patience a lot of players that inhabit the server seem to have. It's not that hard to see and it certainly isn't hard to question, but this is a huge factor that tends to drive ambitious players away from the game in favor of more sophisticated and complex games. I can't speak wonders for the staff team either, I've seen some pretty nasty stuff coming from a lot of current and previous staff members, but that's a whole new thread altogether. You can't deny it: Era is easy. It's mindless, it's simple, it's fun, it's not mechanically demanding at all, and ironically, that appeals to a less-than-ideal demographic that can turn an otherwise casual MMO experience into a toxic one. Yet, in spite of all of this, the game somehow manages to introduce what is regarded by a large amount of MMO players to be the single most game-destroying element: grind.

Again, we have to face the facts: getting what you want isn't easy, and it's tedious, and it certainly isn't fun - unless you're paying. At the moment, Era forces players to invest a considerable amount of either time or actual money in order to play the game on an even playing field with the vast majority of players today, simulating a steep "equipment curve" that tends to drive new players away as well. Though, as absolutely toxic as it is to have a heavily encouraged pay-to-win system, the injury is terribly insulted with the fact that the only other alternative besides paying a large amount of money for a single weapon is to do extremely tedious and mind-numbing grind with absolutely no variation in the "quests" that net you a very small amount given the time invested.

What makes matters even worse is that the grind doesn't even stop if and when you somehow attain a top-tier gun that probably took weeks upon weeks to earn without paying. If you're a casual player like a lot of Era's population appears to be, there are even more broken game mechanics to bite you in the ass. While ammo certainly isn't too big of a problem, revive potions and especially gun repairs definitely are. The fact that weapons degrade in performance - not by usage time (for whatever stupid reason), but by real time - really tends to turn non-frequent players away from the game once they become a little inactive. Those players log on in hopes of a good PK or spar session, then they realize all of their weapons are "very rusty" and have to spend time mining for rocks, which abuses an RNG mechanic in order to get the materials you need to repair, as well as currency.

Why staff have not identified any of these problems let alone acted upon them yet is beyond me, considering the game's been out for years now with endless complaining about how tedious it can be to play this game, how broken game mechanics are - and I didn't even mention how terribly imbalanced the price/weapons ratios are, nor did I go in-depth on how ****ty the pay-to-win system is as a result of it - both elements are beyond broken and aren't even worth discussing since the "marketers" of the game are blinded by income without any sense of balance or compromise between players and developers.

That's why Era is vilified, and that's what needs to be worked on. Right now, Era is seen by pretty much every other server to be the trashcan of Graal filled with obnoxious game mechanics and players alike, and it really isn't hard to see why.

don't give me that TL;DR ****, I don't care if you didn't read it, just don't post about it like an idiot

Kendama 02-14-2014 06:08 PM

I am not a fish

Mejico Josh 02-14-2014 06:37 PM

Talon you have hit the nail on the head completly (although didnt want to quote your post, would take up alot of space)

Talon 02-14-2014 07:44 PM

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Posted by Mejico Jøsh (Post 452852)
Talon you have hit the nail on the head completly (although didnt want to quote your post, would take up alot of space)

Spread the word, get Era fixed.

optimuswhat 02-14-2014 08:22 PM

Sorry if my opinion is flawed. They usually are.

Talon, you did make it more clear to me as of why the game has recently become boring to me. It's just... Too simple. There aren't any crazy mechanics, like a game such as Fallout has, or even Zelda. All you do is kill some guys, spend 200 hours getting cash, buy a gun, kill, cash, gun, rehashed event... Plus they never fixed that mushroom knife inaccessible area glitch... Not sure what the official name is, but that's been there for decades. Why a isn't it fixed?

In other games, you see glitches like that immediately removed. Era? Nope. Pretty stupid, since they're representing Eurocenter, and they're doing a horrible job at doing so.

I mean, the whole concept of Era is interesting, but it's being presented awfully. There's strange events such as giant mutant samurais invading Era to aliens. It's very random, and out of place. In a world about gangsters, guns, gang wars, it's a little too happy of a place. Plus I'm pretty sure the main focus of the game is collecting rares, and trading. I miss scamming. It was so... Gangster-like. Some consider it horrible, some consider it a mechanic.

And as Talon said, the P2W was executed horribly, and may I add that the newer guns are awful? Every time a batch of weapons are released, there's only ONE good weapon. Anyone else notice that?

You know how Era advertises "powerful dual stick controls"? Well, I found Zone to have powerful dual stick controls. You can shoot 360°, which is actually quite fun. My Era-obsessed friend actually hated that, and said it was horrible. Then again, he said F-Zero should be more like Mario Kart, so I'm not surprised. Plus the weapons are more well balanced to their price.

Talon mentioned weapon repairs. This gimmick is pretty much the only reason why people mine. I mean, it's such a pointless mechanic, and' its so stupid and tedious. Why can't we just have some random guy repair it for a fee instead of having to mine minerals, and then pay a fee? Plus, they do degrade real time, as Talon said, so I'm questioning wether or not Era weapons are coated with salt water, or are designed horribly.

Talon 02-15-2014 06:59 AM

thx man

NeoZX 02-15-2014 07:43 AM

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Posted by PoeticFolly (Post 452532)
Holy ****. It's a ****ing iPhone game. If you don't like it then don't play it. It's as simple as that. Writing a ****ing iPetition to remove the manager who is actually a nice guy isn't going to do anything. Sitting here bitching about the game isn't going to do anything. If you say you hate it so much yet still play it, then you're stupid. I personally don't play era or graal for that matter. It's not that hard to quit.

Most of you guys are spoiled, whiny children. It's annoying

Smack those kids

Quote:

Posted by Talon (Post 452861)
Spread the word, get Era fixed.

Fixing years of mistakes is hard.

imSupah 02-15-2014 12:41 PM

I agree with all of you. Just like Talon said, the pay-2-win system, the community and the fact that this game is not newb-friendly gets to me. This game needs to be fixed. I told so many of my RL friends about Era and they all quit cause of the simple fact that the game is pay-2-win. Give the newbies a decent gun to start off with. Not a pistol that makes pro and veteran players laugh and call the newbies easy. And what really bothers me is that they nerfed the majority of the jobs just to tempt players to buy gralat packs. Digging used to give so much shells and crabs spawned from time to time. Trash spawned a lot more. Pizza making you had your own station and could stay there. Now? Digging gives less shells but more crabs, trash and mushrooms spawn rarely and they even made pizza where someone could steal ur station after you take the pizza to the oven? Like wtf? Don't even get me started on car missions. Era is a well polished server don't get me wrong, but the system its approaching you might as well say its freeminum and paying will get you the upper hand.

As for the community, not much rant on that. Community is what makes a MMO even more fun. But Era's is so full of tryhards that get mad and spur comments that are vulgar and unnecessary when you kill them makes this MMO community harsh. Era ur not gonna find a lot of nice people. Streakers and sparers all have one thing in common. They get butthurt when you beat them. But whatever.

Era needs to change...Big time.


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