My Ban Appeal Has Not Been Read?
 

This is the second time in the past two months my account has been banned from classic for things I didn't do. First it was a week long ban now a 90 day long ban and it's all because of some kid who has his graal linked to my account. After the first ban I had revoked access but yet again, it happened. I hadn't even been online the entire day. So, now to the main point in this post. Two weeks ago I sent an email to [email protected] (or whatever it is you're supposed to send it to) and still have not recieved a single message back. This happened in the past when I had sent a ban appeal for a friend and did not recieve a single email back. (Note he did not have an email and the appeal I sent were his words, not mine.) I would really like to know why my email hasn't probably been looked at for the past two weeks.

Why do you wan't to play graal so much if it does this to you



there are better games

Try and contact Xor on his e-mail rather than the Classic one.

a year later and I'm still waiting for a change in email even though I sent multiple emails...

As I have said allot of times before , email classic is pointless they take like 2626 years to reply since albus left ... And if it did get read it would most probably her a copy and pasted message saying you don't qualify..

omg just wait out the ban

It's probably best to wait the ban out and just not do what ever it is you said you didn't do again. You'll be unbanned when the time runs out.

Lol are you implying staff don't make mistakes? I received a 700 hour ban for entering swamp tower once for "severe vulgarity". I literally logged on and walked into the tower and instaban. That was a pretty big mistake on the staff part, luckily my appeal did work.

was just banned for a week for "game disruption" while PKing in Sardon's halls
wish me luck



terrible idea
personally thought the staff on iClassic has been very good up until around the past year (at least in regards to GPs or whoever handles player relations)

at this point, I don't even have to know them personally
I can just see an event message from someone like a "Yuri" and based on grammar or behavior alone come to the conclusion that he probably isn't fit to be monitoring the actions of people around him
just my 2 cents though

How the heck do you get any kind of ban for pking? I know Sardon's is a crap ass tower but come on. People have been pking there for ever.

Ive been banned in sardons just for lagging into the black space a long time ago. It was a 3 day ban. It was quite funny, the admin said the reason was "wall-walking". I spent the next three days pondering what the heck that meant.

because they hire admins who have 0 in-game experience and don't know the game's mechanics or what is and what isn't allowed at towers

just gonna assume I was banned for standing in the flag doorway blocking the entrance like any other intelligent defender has ever done at Sardon's

the worst part about a ban like this is that even if you are unbanned, it will still technically "count against you" and you're more likely to have wrongful bans held against you in the future

A while back Rufus implemented the "Get a Life Program" which tries to help players to get a life. If player A exceeds X amount of hours in a month the system will make up a reason to ban them. These dont stay in a players record since theyre done to help the players out. So the next time you get banned for no reason just remember the server is just helping you out.

lol


I got a warning for disruption when the game didn't load properly once...
Apparently I wound up in a tower and a whole bunch of people reported me...

I think it's just the numbers on how many people report you within a certain timeframe...

Lol you guys think you have it bad? 1. Got banned for not being to be hit from a mile away by a player and that was "hacking" 2. I got warped off map and was typing "unstick me" and then got banned, kid got behind my player and said bad things while I afk'd "banned" Some of the admins can have a grudge against that player or they would be very immature enough to TEST a ban and see how its like. But either way they just don't wanna read it or find that its something that cannot be read to fix your ban which is reasonable but also unfair.

I recently retired from the Graal Police team, but I must regretfully admit, I once abused my powers. I accidentally banned someone for a week when it should have been a month. :(

Anyways, people don't seem to realize that most illegitimate bans are caused by the ban system, as it also issues staff-bestowed bans to all tied accounts. The system is set up to prevent ban evasion, but it often causes many innocent players to receive someone else's ban as well.

Most of those bans are because people log into another person's account or have someone log into theirs. What really annoyed me was when they would have their account unlinked after a wrongful ban like that and then go and share accounts again and wonder why they would end up with another ban.

I know the contingency may be.. very low. And with very low, I mean minimal. But maybe.. how shall I tell you this, maybe you did something violating the rules? Mind the maybe, please. We all know you, Thallen, would never do things which go against rules, especially those ones leading into a [global] ban.

Just wait until it's over, life goes on.. probably.

I'm curious, from your experience is this mostly from sharing accounts?

As far as I could tell, yes. There were a few exceptions, but not many.

Ah, because more than once I think I have logged into Facebook unidentified and it logged me into someone elses account. I don't think Graal generates a unique ID as Stefan thinks it does.

One time Soren and my account glitched half-together and i had his name, was in the guild he was in even though I actually was in my own guild and somehow I was able to talk in both guild chats and read both... Not sure if he did something as he said he didn't but might just be a troll...

Anyone else banned for the reason 'multiple bans'? This happened to me after I was unbanned from an 8k hour ban, and an account reset, (I got the acc back eventually) for saying 'selling account' the ban reason being 'acc selling is illegal'. Next when I'm unbanned after nearly a year I got banned straight away again for the reason 'multiple bans'.

this IMO has to be the stupidest ban reason you can give. Getting banned for being banned a lot for stupid reasons, just yesterday I was banned for talking about how Draco was fired. Banned for 167 hours - ban reason being: 'inappropriate behaviour'. I hope once unixmad and stefan make some money they will proper staff, not that they hire staff or ever probably will because all they care about is money...

You know.. Stefan banned some players hisself for 'multiple bans'. Anyways, that ban was used to ban a player globally (make him not able to log in instead of just banned on one server) on Graals PC client. I'm not sure how it works on iOS-servers though. Maybe it's being used to make you stop, the harder the punishment the sooner you'll break or some other say.

I know this is something that a stereotypical noob would say but, 2010 was the best year for staff imho. Right now there is just too many staff, and it is so easy to get hired now.


Stefan won't care about doesn't care about the current plethora staff and he probably won't care about the latter. Which will obviously be ****ty. :PPP

Why doesn't it send you a message telling who banned you so you can make it personal >;)

I like it how one chick can get hired on 3/4 iDevice servers and staff of each server can't manage to figure out why she got fired from the last server, but still hire her one their server.

It would have been nice to know what faq banned my 3 accounts with in a 10 min span.


Names pls

Lol, she got fired from Delt tho right?

I think if you get banned for hacking, the system bans all the accounts associated with your wifi. It happened to me too, I got banned for a legit reason though so I can't really complain.

I was banned for door blocking in graal city where people can just walk through you. So i got on my 2nd account and mocked him/her for being a ******. He was stealth mode but i knew he/she was there. He/she banned me again then i got on my main account and called him a madafr and he/she gave me like a 2700 hr ban. The last one was legit but it was his/her actions that led to that point.

lol, man, I find it weird how people get banned for harassment. I've never been banned for staff harassment (or harassment in general). Like, I am the most rudest person in Graal, I'm so surprised lol. It's so weird cause I usually get muted or banned in other games (Runescape, CP or xbox). The old staff (referring to the staff 2 years ago) were not usually bothered by noobs who cuss at them. And if they banned you for harassment, its not a lengthy ban like 2700hrs - 3000hrs. I guess it's a new trend with the new admins. I really do think that they should hire people older than 15 years old though.. I just have a problem with 15 year olds running a big community.

I guess I'm a bit of a hypocrite cause I'm actually turning 15 this year :drool:

I want some of whatever your smoking.

1.How can there be to many staff when one of the largest complaints on here and in game that there is never staff on. Or an admin comes on here when some one drops a thread about their issue not getting dealt with and saying there isn't enough staff on to cover the volume of issues. IMO there should always be a minimum amount of staff that has to be on to handle issues. And if they can't meet that then there is not enough staff members to.

2.I can see how you would say it's so easy to get hired now as staff these days as it seems like every week there's a new random person as admin hosting an event. However I can assure you it is not. I myself and other friends of mine have applied more than once for gp positions and we all have over 1500 of online time and we haven't gotten hired. I have other friends who did get hired as admin who applied at least 3 times before they got the job.

Yet people like Thallen come on here and complain that some of the newly hired admins have very little in game experience or time. And I really don't understand that. I would think having a certain amount of online time should be a requirement to be able to get hired as an admin.

I know that online time is hard to judge because of all the idling/afking that goes on by people to jack up there hours so a slightly highish required hour time would be neccisary to weed out the cheap hour gainers. I would say maybe 2k hours Idk what that would break down to in terms of days or months but one would have to assume that most players in general would have gotten at least half the hours the old fashioned way by accumulating them during actual game play and not while they are sleeping.

There are to many admins because when I ask an admin to do something for me they just pass me onto and another admin and so on... I asked the admins that told me to ask another admin "can you please transfer my account" the admin said "sorry I don't know how to do that." This proves it's so easy to get hired and u don't even know how to do stuff that all graal police should be able to do!

http://www.graal.net/index.php/Graal_Police

Doesnt the information center have a section that explains how to go about getting account transfers? Gp's are not hired to fix your problems at the snap of your fingers so STFU and go email graal online you knob.:D

It was a specific type of account transfer that an admin could only do..

And i know admins can't fix my problems straight away but I thought it would take less than about 2 months which it nearly did not.

If the system does ban all of the accounts associated with the same wifi, that is bogus. I have several siblings who would all suffer if one of the other siblings were to be banned. ;(

Anybody else notice the #unbanThallen status's going around Graal these days?

I've been unbanned since the day after I was banned, because I appealed
I just have 0 desire to play the game right now because I don't want to be constantly harassed and followed by newbie admins who aren't intelligent enough to do their job properly

can't stand in front of a doorway at a tower without some year-2012 preteen dressed as a koala bear telling you that you're "lag blocking"
can't streak 90 spars without a 20W-100L GP telling you that you are "unkillable"

http://puu.sh/6x8eU.jpg

hire adults with fully-developed brains

Were you really disconnected while sparring?

yeah
I also experience getting warped out of spars while streaking as well, I'll randomly get warped onto the square tile to the left of the nightclub in Graal City

my assumption is that people just angrily spam reports claiming that you are lagging, frozen in place, unhittable, or something of that nature, and eventually an admin gets tired of getting spammed by it and does something about it (despite the report being legit or not)

I don't really care if I get warped out of spars for winning too much or whatever, I can deal with that and it's flattering if nothing else, but getting banned for a week over doing something that isn't against the rules is stupid

I've been unbanned pretty much every time I've sent an appeal in, however (quoting the unban email):
the punishment basically carries over despite it being right or wrong

another friend of mine, also a really good sparrer, was banned this morning for "game disruption" without any previous warning

there needs to be someone on the staff team that is capable of at least explaining things like lag, delay, lag blocking, etc. to these kids because they don't seem to understand the game and therefore can't possibly administrate it properly or know when a rule is being broken

if we're just going to start banning people based on the ignorant and angry complaints of others then let me know now so I can quit for a few months and maybe come back when there is a new staff team, otherwise I'll end up racking up so many unwarranted bans that my ban history itself will end up getting me permanently banned just like on PC Graal, sweet

the worst part is that these are all unwritten rules and it's all some BS grey area so getting away with these bans is probably easy

"he was lag blocking at a tower" but what if he wasn't lag blocking and you're just too stupid to understand that if you stay still while being hit your period of invincibility lasts longer
"he is lagging too badly in spars" but what if you're too stupid to know that it's 8PM EST with 3100 people online and the entire server is lagging

I don't understand why you would even ban people for these things when you could just warn or warp them then politely PM them explaining why you did it and work through the problem like an actual intelligent human being

Solution: don't be good

it's Poppy who is doing all this full-****** banning, warping, and warning
she also apparently brags and chats casually about handing out these bans to players, which is the only reason I'm aware that it was her

not to make this personal or anything, but Poppy is a full-grown adult who should have a fully-developed brain at this point and if she isn't capable of intelligently administrating the game and making proper judgments at her age then get rid of her

if any of her friends would care to tell her to stay the hell out of interfering with matters in towers and spars until she understands the mechanics of the game like hit detection and so forth, I'd appreciate it

dude, your assumptions are based on what you've heard.

You act like you make proper judgements yourself, calling someone out based on rumours is an incredibly presumptuous act. You're the one who doesn't have a fully developed brain (which is probably the reason as to why you're so gullible and quick to make ridiculous accusations on others)

edit;

dude, I so wish that Poppy did all those things to you. I would be so happy, man. dude, do you remember when you made that breast cancer joke? You're sick. You shouldn't be complaining about other people's brains because yours is way too f*cked if you are able to joke on a such a sensitive issue.

Lolz

I hate the spread rep crap

you can get butthurt and type paragraphs at me but it doesn't change the fact that Poppy is a garbage admin

she admitted to making the bans in PMs to me from an alternate account, but I'm sure you never considered that because that's way too much for you to take in all at once
420, smoke forum posts every day, durrr

Poppy is now also threatening to ban players who can't even speak fluent English to defend themselves in an appeal email because they are sending in heads to upload that include the "Anbu flash" animation effect which she apparently thinks to have copyrighted

I feel like some admins are using there personal opinions to decide whether someone deserves a ban or not and it's ridiculous. For example, the other day I saw someone at the arena literally just say "s***". They received a week ban lol. First off this word is allowed. I can understand if someone is evading the swear filter to say f*** or something but the word "s***" is allowed. It's not censored so an admin was just using his or her personal judgement which is wrong, it doesn't break any rules.

You fooked up now ichronic, you made the old man rage. Prepare to feel the wrath of his walls if text.

But on a serious note you going to take that from that old fart?


This is nothing new bro its been the case since the birth of the iphone servers and im sure it was the same in the pc world.