Scripting Team Application?
 

How does one go about applying for a scripting team position on classic?

You're hired. View your inbox for information on how to spend all your time helping the server with no pay.

Just kidding, you're not hired.

I believe that there is no official application or anything due to it's a rare position. I would go about contacting someone like fp4 or xor, they will probably give you an email address.

No pay? Oh boy!

Just kidding. That's okay. I've been working on Graal for years with no pay. Why, for about 13 years or so now to be precise! All of that GS1 experience made it easy to learn GS2, though, and all of that GS2 experience makes it easy to get hired, or so I'd hope.

I am one of the best scripters left on PC Graal. Of course, that means I know that FP4 is not one to respond to people randomly contacting him. I tried emailing Xor, but to no avail. Who checks email these days?

There is no official NAT application, or no scripting admin or anything like that to contact?

oooh wow you sound good. anyways im sure if you were to provide fp4 an application of your own just showcasing some of your work and backround I am sure you will at least a response. But heck what do I know, I can just barely pass as a graphic artist. :)

I'd gladly email fp4 as well, do you know his email? Should I assume it's just fp4@graalonline?

EDIT: Nope, not fp4@graalonline. Not fowlplay4@graalonline either.

Do you know it?

You can probably just contact him via these forums. Welcome to graalians btw. :P

http://www.graalians.com/forums/member.php?u=11

It's good to see you Ph8.

I've seen you post scripting help for people on the old graal forums, too, guy. I've thought about doing that as well, but every time I tried signing up an account over there, I couldn't.

It just seems so complicated. You gotta sign up with your account and an email, but that's not the account necessarily aligned with the email in the game. Then if you forget your pass, the system just tells you that it's the same as your in-game password. But when I try putting in my in-game password, it doesn't work. I swore off the graal forums so long ago.

These forums? So nice. I got the name NaS, I didn't have to worry about my account name. It's just nice.

I'll do your tip and try PMing him. Fingers crossed guy.

Yeah, you aren't missing anything with the official forums, outside of the scripting section they are pretty much completely dead. And agreed with the name thing, very nice not to be Starfire2001 on here.

Best of luck with iClassic.

The scripting team position is invite-only.

Also I don't do any hiring of any kind, I really only get involved when there's a project or bugs that need addressing. If there's a need for another NAT you'll be kept in mind.

I would recommend getting experience on iEra or iZone, they're way easier to get hired on and probably have projects or something they want a NAT for.

What kind of experience? I can do literally everything GS2 is capable of already.

Is iClassic truly so overstaffed that they cannot use another scripter, regardless of how skilled they are? I find that really surprising. On UN, I only wish we had some sort of excess of scripter applicants to turn down!

I really mainly like Classic-feel servers (UN, GTA, etc), it's what gets me nostalgic. But I suppose if you aren't hiring, very well. I will be around on UN/forums or so if you reconsider.

Trust me bro they are more desperate than they seem.
They may not hire any random passerby, they just need a good reason to trust you with the job i guess.

That is a shame, then. I Managed UN for like a year when its playercount was over 320 (to your iClassic people that might not sound like much, but PC graal nowadays hovers around 40-80 players daily) and have been Admin/Manager many times since then, and my scripting knowledge is immense in every aspect of the language.

I would even posit that -- that Ph8 guy you see in this thread -- UN runs by vast majority on the work that he and I put into it.

If they truly are in need of scripters here, I am most assuredly an asset. I will hope for reconsideration.

The only problem I had with you on UN was that you deleted a lot of things, due to being whatever it was being mostly inactive. That's not a big deal but I don't recall being warned about a bunch of content being deleted (im talking about your most recent stint at being manager which was summer of 2012, I, believe). Also UN hasn't had 340 players for honestly 8-9 years now, maybe longer.

Yes a lot of people disliked that. I won't attempt to justify it here on these forums (I could to you sometime if you wanted), but trust me.. UN needed (still needs) to be cleaned a lot. It's an old server.

And yeah, 320 players was when I was Manager in 2005-2006. I followed NeoJenova (who hired me)/Rage, and was succeeded by WiKKiD/Spryte.

nope. it always floated around 200 at its peak before V5 came out but def not 320 on the norm.

@NAS, check the official graal forums, SNK Has a scripting application for iEra available.

It is a good opportunity to get affiliated with mobile servers -- with access to a dev server for testing -- and fp4 is right, there are frequent projects that any scripting help is always appreciated on.

Something that would not hurt either, are to make major contributions as far as scripting to the community. (ex: Pix's Level Editor, FP4's NPC Editor) and so on, and get your name and abilities out there.

The only problem with this ethic is that era is not classic and will not benefit from his scripting skills.

WHY ARE WE THROWING THE CHANCE TO GET MORE CONTENT- TO OTHER SERVERS THAT ARE P2W AND WORSE THAN CLASSIC

Nas already has a reputation of being a great scripter, if he wants to work on the server I see him being hired.

Regardless of what he has done in the past, he is a great scripter and would be a good addition to any server who needs coding to get done. I wish him the best of luck.

Agreed. Seems as if this NaS guy is a damn good scripter and Classic is just flat out saying no. Then again Classic has a very good scripting team as of now. Maybe they'd like for him to get some more experience?

Team? It's just Dusty, and Fp4 on occasion. The guy said he's been playing 13 years and is basically 100% fluent with Gscript. There's not really more experience you can get? Classic is like the only server that doesn't want scripters. No idea why, since it has the highest playerbase, yet the lowest amount of them.

They don't really have the good creative passion that scripters can bring. It might be xor, or it might be stephans wishes. But classic doesn't like to go outside the norm too much.
Good somewhat kinda new updates, that were creative, were the
bug catching,
looting,
archery range,
events,

experienced scripters are needed to bring stuff like this. but someone in charge must think that it is not necessary to make the server thrive.

Hahahah what about Delteria? Isn't mystical dragon the only scripted, since he fired the other good ones?, and he is terrible.

They have to be very careful in who they give scripting rights too. Seeing as they have many paying customers and scripters probably are the best people to cause destruction to a server. You have to be 100% trustworthy in the long run. They can limit your rights in the beginning but eventually they will give you more rights, and if they think there is a chance that you will go rogue and say f*** it, then they probably won't hire you. Idk

Then they just backup the server to before the damage was done. gg

You must not be familiar with PiX?

I am not in a position to speak about Classic's needs for staff or projects, but the person that has a say in the matter has spoken -- it's invite only. I simply suggested some ways NaS can contribute without possibly contributing directly to increase his chances for an invite?

When it comes to mobile environments, security is an issue as well, and opening up that realm to potential candidates isn't as easy or common of a practice as many believe.

Look at it this way -- with a few basic rights set up and control over the NPC Server I could do just about anything I wanted up to and including things that a "simple backup" would still cause a major inconvenience to players and other developers. It's like asking a stranger off the street to hold your wallet while you go change pants.

Not familiar. I guess he's another scripter?

and the backups cause some inconvenience. But I have seen it happen a couple times before and it's not the biggest deal. It's a small price to pay for the chance to have someone be able to contribute a lot to the game. This guy obviously has a well made backup and the developers should at least look into his past, or contact his past managers to see what they have to say about him. That is how real jobs work

That's not the point, your staff should be professional, and in a scripters case totally reliable. Dusty and fowlplay 4 have been trusted members for numerous years. Backing up a server would cause a lot of headaches due to a lot of players progress being lost etc.

And you just created an account on graalians.com in 2014...?

You should reconsider having someone hire him. It's not like he's some newbie asking for a job. From what I have seen he is as good as he says and someone willing to help couldn't possibly hurt. Put him to work on iClassic don't send him to another server -_-

Maybe we can finally get a "Focus" command added to spar or a 1v1 quicktourney style event added that people have been asking for for like I dunno ever?

You sure you have the right email? I usually get a response back from him.

Lol this is funny, once guy comes in and says he can script and everyone believes him and wants him hired. How do you know this guys not spewing random bs? You all are saying hire him because you want updates but I bet you would all cry if he deleted the whole server.

It's not funny at all really. The ones vouching for him are all old players who have been around a long time. You don't have the slightest clue what you are talking about. Don't judge someone based on their graalians.com join date.

I'm kind of confused on this. From reading through some of the posts Fp4's in particular. He seems to indicate Classic doesn't need another scripter and recommends the OP try Era or Zone who all the People who play on those servers and come on here and taint our section of the forums tout that about how those servers are so much better and have more content and more scripters/admin.

I don't see how specially right now with the resent departures of Rufus,and Albus Classic couldn't use another scripter. If he is (no offense) legit and good at it. We seem to keep losing the few good admin we have as it is.

Era is always open for good programmers/coders. You can contact callimuc if you have enough knowledge with Gs2 and he will test you out.
But since you do not seem to like a modern-like server, I suppose there's no iOS server that is hiring at your style.

But if you were good you could start off on any start PC server, either reach classic or iOS so this way you got yourself into the job legibly. :)

I like how judgmental everyone is on this website.

Stop judging other people for being judgmental. That's very judgemental for judging judgemental people for judging others who are also judgemental judges of judgemental judges.

Judgmental*

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It frustrates me that you people who did not contribute anything to the thread are now derailing it with memes and i gifs.

This is funny because I remember him staffing on gold servers when I played (only a few months). He isn't someone who randomly showed up and spewed random bs. What is your point?
You are so wrong on so many levels. First off, as a trial scripter, he wouldn't have direct access to server files but he would probably be tasked with writing certain things for other DEVS, he would prove himself before he received any rights to script directly to the server.
1: he has a notable good record
2: he wants to help classic
3: he would trial before gaining complete access
4: If he managed to damage the server after this, other staff could simply contact Stephan or Xor or someone and they would be able to go about immediately backing the server up. (There would definitely be backups set before he was given access to the server files.) It's minimal damage that would occur, compared to the vast amount of help his assuring record promises us.

Check the first and second page where, I vouched that NaS is a great scripter and has been around for years. Also the thread has been dead since page two anyway, and he has already received his answer. /thread closed lmao

Classic is basically just a server with 0 development.
If you want to script for a server, go for iZone or iEra.

Scripting is the most powerful right one can have on a server, and something as simple as access to a single level would grant a scripter very wide access to many things. It would be very difficult to "trial run" a scripter.

There is no such thing as "minimal damage" when we are talking about damage done to a live server. Even if there was a backup in place, it would be one hell of a mess to clean up.

NaS is beyond reputable. An asset to the team would be an understatement.

I see where your coming from with all your posts but the logic makes me angry. Why are we the only server so scared from getting another developer. Other servers seem to not have these problems

My post had nothing to do with the reason he was declined as I don't deal with stuff like that. My post was just correcting some pretty big misconceptions.

= what dusty said.

Why is this still a thread.