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Deophite 01-01-2014 11:58 AM

Tower Question
 
So I was bored last night and decided to attack Sardon's tower alone against around 7-8 Voxel members. I noticed at first some of the members were rather newbish which allowed me to get to the flag alone despite me being up against 7-8 guild members. Then I realized that the guild members were spawning where I was killing them. Is this for real? Is this how towers are on iClassic? Is it basically Quantity over quality?

Kurohime 01-01-2014 12:13 PM

If you were killing them on-top of sardons tower then yes they will spawn there, on other towers e.g. swamp and deadwood the guild holding the tower will spawn inside the tower not by the flag.
But here is a list of the towers and their spawn point for the tower holders just incase:
-York, inside the tent
-Castle, in the flag room
-Deadwood, second floor under the flag level door
-Sardons, on the flag level
-Swamp, In the water in the first room as you enter the tower

Hadzz 01-01-2014 12:15 PM

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Posted by Kurohime (Post 440679)
If you were killing them on-top of sardons tower then yes they will spawn there, on other towers e.g. swamp and deadwood the guild holding the tower will spawn inside the tower not by the flag.
But here is a list of the towers and their spawn point for the tower holders just incase:
-York, inside the tent
-Castle, in the flag room
-Deadwood, second floor under the flag level door
-Sardons, on the flag level
-Swamp, In the water in the first room as you enter the tower

-mod, back of the room in the top corners on first floor

Deophite 01-01-2014 12:23 PM

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Posted by Kurohime (Post 440679)
-Sardons, on the flag level

That's kinda overpowered

Hadzz 01-01-2014 12:26 PM

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Posted by Deophite (Post 440685)
That's kinda overpowered

Thats why its health is quite low

Kurohime 01-01-2014 12:37 PM

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Posted by Hadzz (Post 440681)
-mod, back of the room in the top corners on first floor

Knew i forgot one, thanks.

Ryan 01-01-2014 12:38 PM

Every tower used to have it so you would spawn at the front of the flag room.

Thallen 01-01-2014 03:18 PM

so basically you're saying you went to Sardon's, managed to get to the flag, realized you had no chance of taking it solo, then made a thread about it

well
okay

towers are quantity over quality when it's 7-8 vs. 1 but I don't think you needed any Graal expert to tell you that
not entirely sure what you were expecting, try a fort like MoD or York if you want to try and solo it but that's still completely pointless because you either won't take it and if by some chance you do then you won't hold it

Hadzz 01-01-2014 06:11 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 440710)
so basically you're saying you went to Sardon's, managed to get to the flag, realized you had no chance of taking it solo, then made a thread about it

well
okay

towers are quantity over quality when it's 7-8 vs. 1 but I don't think you needed any Graal expert to tell you that
not entirely sure what you were expecting, try a fort like MoD or York if you want to try and solo it but that's still completely pointless because you either won't take it and if by some chance you do then you won't hold it

Thallen-dream crusher

Livid 01-01-2014 07:06 PM

Basically your complaining about something you could never take alone and probly got your ass wooped doing it. So what thallen said you basically decided to rage 'bout it by making a thread. -Sound about right?

Kurohime 01-01-2014 08:25 PM

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Posted by Livid (Post 440754)
Basically your complaining about something you could never take alone and probly got your ass wooped doing it. So what thallen said you basically decided to rage 'bout it by making a thread. -Sound about right?

Come on guys he's clearly new, and i think he has already got the answer.

Livid 01-01-2014 08:35 PM

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Posted by Kurohime (Post 440781)
Come on guys he's clearly new, and i think he has already got the answer.

lol he isnt new, if you mean graalians wise maybe.

Deophite 01-01-2014 09:26 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 440710)
so basically you're saying you went to Sardon's, managed to get to the flag, realized you had no chance of taking it solo, then made a thread about it

well
okay

towers are quantity over quality when it's 7-8 vs. 1 but I don't think you needed any Graal expert to tell you that
not entirely sure what you were expecting, try a fort like MoD or York if you want to try and solo it but that's still completely pointless because you either won't take it and if by some chance you do then you won't hold it

Not what I was saying at all actually. I was just there having a bit of fun and I wasn't actually trying to take the tower alone that would be quite impossible. I was just commenting on the fact that they were spawning at the top and even if i wasn't alone it would have been hard because everyone else spawned down below. That's all. No need to get all butthurt.

Hadzz 01-01-2014 09:33 PM

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Posted by Livid (Post 440783)
lol he isnt new, if you mean graalians wise maybe.

Hes obviously new to classics towering concept... Why else would he ask a question like this no offence

Santa Claus 01-01-2014 10:14 PM

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Posted by Kurohime (Post 440679)
-Castle, in the flag room

They changed it back to the flag room? I thought it was outside the flag room at the bottom

Livid 01-02-2014 03:01 AM

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Posted by Hadzz (Post 440791)
Hes obviously new to classics towering concept... Why else would he ask a question like this no offence

he just said he never noticed players spawn at the top of the flag, reaaaaaad omg

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Posted by Santa Claus (Post 440801)
They changed it back to the flag room? I thought it was outside the flag room at the bottom

It is.

twilit 01-02-2014 04:14 AM

a. Towering is stupid and does not make you cool. So stop trying to beat up a guy is who unfamiliar with the tower system and just asked a question.

b. Just because you are in a tower doesnt mean you intend to take it. Towers are the most common PK spots. So stop making a guy look stupid when he was obviously only there for PKs.

Aaron 01-02-2014 07:51 AM

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Posted by Hadzz (Post 440791)
Hes obviously new to classics towering concept... Why else would he ask a question like this no offence

Yo if this is the real Deophite, he's a pretty old Graalian. Pretty sure he's a sparrer as well. And yeah like Twil said, towering is stupid.

ufoburan 01-02-2014 09:21 AM

I don't think the OP was complaining he was just asking a question. I have bitched probably more than anybody about how crappy Sards is set up. So all I'm going to say is that when it comes to quantity or quality neither really matter because generally the guild holding Sardon's is a recycle guild that just Door lag/chat blocks with 1-3 ppl while everybody else afks at the flag 24-7 until 1k then starts over. I say remove the hallway,and put two doors in spike room to flag room.

Livid 01-02-2014 05:32 PM

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Posted by twilit (Post 440871)
a. Towering is stupid and does not make you cool. So stop trying to beat up a guy is who unfamiliar with the tower system and just asked a question.

b. Just because you are in a tower doesnt mean you intend to take it. Towers are the most common PK spots. So stop making a guy look stupid when he was obviously only there for PKs.

A. sounds like your own opinion, others find towering fun and hes familiar with it he just never noticed something and what do you mean just ask a question? Aren't we supposed to answer?

B. Did I say anything about him not PKing?

twilit 01-03-2014 01:01 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 440710)
so basically you're saying you went to Sardon's, managed to get to the flag, realized you had no chance of taking it solo, then made a thread about it

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Posted by Livid
Basically your complaining about something you could never take alone and probly got your ass wooped doing it. So what thallen said you basically decided to rage 'bout it by making a thread. -Sound about right?

Doesnt look like an answer to a question to me.

Exert 01-03-2014 05:26 AM

This is clearly an insult hidden in a question, the fact that Deophite actually included our guild name (Voxel), the word "Newbish" together is an enough proof it is. I am just wondering how, how narrow-minded are these guys who kept on saying "He's new", "He's just asking a question", "You are abusing him". I mean really? :sarcastic:

Aaron 01-03-2014 05:51 AM

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Posted by Exert (Post 441187)
This is clearly an insult hidden in a question, the fact that Deophite actually included our guild name (Voxel), the word "Newbish" together is an enough proof it is. I am just wondering how, how narrow-minded are these guys who kept on saying "He's new", "He's just asking a question", "You are abusing him". I mean really? :sarcastic:

And someone told you to make a forum account just to post this? lel. Welcome, friend.

I realize I'm just throwing wood into the fire at this point.

Exert, I'll be waiting for your response when you finally figure out how to get back to a thread you've posted on.

Exert 01-03-2014 06:41 AM

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Posted by Aaron (Post 441194)
And someone told you to make a forum account just to post this? lel. Welcome, friend.

I realize I'm just throwing wood into the fire at this point.

Exert, I'll be waiting for your response when you finally figure out how to get back to a thread you've posted on.

Sure mate, and I was awestruck seeing how many immature people (including you) post here stuffs that doesn't really matter. Like for example, do you really have to say that towering is stupid? Then why do you really play Graal? To date pixels? To hang out with your friends and live with them happily ever after? I mean that is really irrelevant to the topic being discussed here. Why don't you make your own thread hating on towers and other towering guilds.:sarcastic:

Aaron 01-03-2014 07:56 AM

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Posted by Exert (Post 441208)
Sure mate, and I was awestruck seeing how many immature people (including you) post here stuffs that doesn't really matter. Like for example, do you really have to say that towering is stupid? Then why do you really play Graal? To date pixels? To hang out with your friends and live with them happily ever after? I mean that is really irrelevant to the topic being discussed here. Why don't you make your own thread hating on towers and other towering guilds.:sarcastic:

I don't care. Lol, dating pixels, yah you're new to these forums.
And that's all I have to say on this topic.
And "lel".

Oh, and happy 5 posts. I'll be waiting until you try and remember how to get back to this thread.

Exert 01-03-2014 08:23 AM

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Posted by Aaron (Post 441218)
I don't care. Lol, dating pixels, yah you're new to these forums.
And that's all I have to say on this topic.
And "lel".

Oh, and happy 5 posts. I'll be waiting until you try and remember how to get back to this thread.

Sir, I don't see your sense anymore, I don't know why do you keep on bashing on the numbers my posts. Numbers of your posts and the time of your existence here doesn't prove your intelligence, mate.

Winter 01-03-2014 02:29 PM

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Posted by Deophite (Post 440676)
Is it basically Quantity over quality?

Yeah, mostly. 5-6 good defenders can hold off 7-8 less experienced attackers. At most towers. The towers aren't very consistent in terms of easy attacking or defending. I think Sardon's, Snowtown and MoD are the only ones that still respawn defenders next to the flag, but other tower spawns aren't too crazy anyway. This essentially makes the largest guilds the most successful. That isn't to say a few skilled players can't be effective, however. There are other factors and exceptions, but for the most part, a larger guild will have a much easier time defending than a smaller one attacking.

Aaron and Exert, calm down a bit. It is a website and a game and someone you don't even know who forgets what you said 15 minutes after closing the tab. Snide, minuscule remarks make you a bother to the community.

Exert 01-03-2014 03:00 PM

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Posted by Winter (Post 441300)
Yeah, mostly. 5-6 good defenders can hold off 7-8 less experienced attackers. At most towers. The towers aren't very consistent in terms of easy attacking or defending. I think Sardon's, Snowtown and MoD are the only ones that still respawn defenders next to the flag, but other tower spawns aren't too crazy anyway. This essentially makes the largest guilds the most successful. That isn't to say a few skilled players can't be effective, however. There are other factors and exceptions, but for the most part, a larger guild will have a much easier time defending than a smaller one attacking.

Aaron and Exert, calm down a bit. It is a website and a game and someone you don't even know who forgets what you said 15 minutes after closing the tab. Snide, minuscule remarks make you a bother to the community.

I guess this is understood. Thanks Winter.

Ph8 01-03-2014 03:36 PM

I wrote up a review for every tower on iclassic once and posted it on here. I'm too lazy to look for it, but the conclusion was that mod was the tower worth playing if you're not in a huge towering guild. Though Castle and York Town weren't awful either.

Hadzz 01-03-2014 04:16 PM

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Posted by Exert (Post 441187)
This is clearly an insult hidden in a question, the fact that Deophite actually included our guild name (Voxel), the word "Newbish" together is an enough proof it is. I am just wondering how, how narrow-minded are these guys who kept on saying "He's new", "He's just asking a question", "You are abusing him". I mean really? :sarcastic:

Of course your gonna make enemys if u stay cooped in a tower all day quit whining and being a p**** about it people are obviously gonna be mad if u fight as a number not a skill and are clearly hat chasers

Aaron 01-03-2014 04:45 PM

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Posted by Exert (Post 441224)
Sir, I don't see your sense anymore, I don't know why do you keep on bashing on the numbers my posts. Numbers of your posts and the time of your existence here doesn't prove your intelligence, mate.

Just talking senselessly, having some forum fun.

Livid 01-03-2014 09:20 PM

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Posted by twilit (Post 441112)
Doesnt look like an answer to a question to me.

You're right, more like an opinion.

twilit 01-04-2014 01:41 AM

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Posted by Exert (Post 441208)
Sure mate, and I was awestruck seeing how many immature people (including you) post here stuffs that doesn't really matter.

If it doesn't matter, why are you even here?

Thallen 01-04-2014 03:35 AM

Rufus quits as staff and now we can't 1 vs. 8 Sardon's
Graal is dead

Deophite 01-04-2014 03:35 AM

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Posted by Exert (Post 441187)
This is clearly an insult hidden in a question, the fact that Deophite actually included our guild name (Voxel), the word "Newbish" together is an enough proof it is. I am just wondering how, how narrow-minded are these guys who kept on saying "He's new", "He's just asking a question", "You are abusing him". I mean really? :sarcastic:

At the time there were a few members who were clearly added for the sake of having numbers. When I can run around someone and kill them without getting hit once especially in a place like that what would you have me call them? And if you recall, I said only SOME of the members. I didn't call the guild itself newbish. Anyways, I got my answer I dunno why people are still posting in this and arguing about stupid ****.

Exert 01-04-2014 09:47 AM

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Posted by Deophite (Post 441673)
At the time there were a few members who were clearly added for the sake of having numbers. When I can run around someone and kill them without getting hit once especially in a place like that what would you have me call them? And if you recall, I said only SOME of the members. I didn't call the guild itself newbish. Anyways, I got my answer I dunno why people are still posting in this and arguing about stupid ****.

Accept my apologies, master.

Natso 01-04-2014 11:04 AM

Anyways you can't really suggest voxel as newbish in any way, shape or form... I mean noob guild don't her 24+ hours every day , they don't stay on top of the leaderboard every day and week. Yes allot f people would hate on us because we take their towers but that's just what towering is like ... People can try blaming us by suggesting we are laggers because we took their tower and they get mad , but there's no point in blaming lag for their lack of skill and tower experience.

Jonathan A. 01-04-2014 03:57 PM

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Posted by Natso (Post 441804)
Anyways you can't really suggest voxel as newbish in any way, shape or form... I mean noob guild don't her 24+ hours every day , they don't stay on top of the leaderboard every day and week. Yes allot f people would hate on us because we take their towers but that's just what towering is like ... People can try blaming us by suggesting we are laggers because we took their tower and they get mad , but there's no point in blaming lag for their lack of skill and tower experience.

BOOM much wow and argue in this forum i like it.:)

Kendama 01-04-2014 04:05 PM

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Posted by Natso (Post 441804)
Anyways you can't really suggest voxel as newbish in any way, shape or form... I mean noob guild don't her 24+ hours every day , they don't stay on top of the leaderboard every day and week. Yes allot f people would hate on us because we take their towers but that's just what towering is like ... People can try blaming us by suggesting we are laggers because we took their tower and they get mad , but there's no point in blaming lag for their lack of skill and tower experience.

Your tower strenth just like any tower guild that has the ideal amount of hours you have. Only almost every tower guild has held towers 24/7 at times when they are fueled by hat chasers. Not noobs, but you aint nothin special either. Prove me wrong and get 1500 tower hours


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