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Perpz 12-05-2013 09:51 AM

The Piano
 
Somewhere either before the Spring of 2013, in the middle, or at the end a glitch was discovered. This glitch involved the piano in Snowtown and gralats. Someway, somehow, players were able to buy a piano for free and sell it for the halved price. From my sources, the admins had no way in telling who had exploited this glitch. The admins had then made the piano unable to sell from your furniture. A little while after this was implemented, MrToasterTarts saw the piano and thought,"Hmm, I wonder if I can learn the basics of the piano with this?" He bought it only to find that he did not enjoy the piano at all. Keep in mind MrToasterTarts has spent 50,000g on something he now sees as a piece of garbage. MrToasterTarts decides to sell it. But wait! He can't! The admins blocked his only way in receiving even half of what he spent! MrToasterTarts finds out more about this. He sits down and thinks,"What did I do to be taunted like this? It'll probably sit there forever. Never to be used. Wasted gralats. I don't even know how to glitch. I only have 500 hours, I hardly know anything about this game. What am I going to do with this junk?" To this very day, MrToasterTarts has left his piano sitting in his house. Only to be taunted every time he sees it. Today, he has a wish. That the admins would allow him to sell the piano and gain back half of what he spent. That is his wish.

Do you think MrToasterTarts deserves to sell the piano?
If not, reply and say why.

-Christian Harter

ufoburan 12-05-2013 10:27 AM

First off I never heard of that before. I have been playing for a little over a year now,and there are still things about the game I discover that I wasn't aware of.

Secondly good luck in your quest for a refund.

Finally I would have never have purchased the piano in the first place. Its way to over priced imho,and while it is what I would call a rare interactive piece of furniture. There is still limited enjoyment you can get out of it. Not to mention there are a hand full of places on the map where you can go and play on a piano for free. Like Rufus's player house for example I have seen a piano setting around there with a stuffed toy on it collecting dust. With that being said I was also a foolish young noob once who wasted valueable gralats on the almost as useless flute. I guess at least the flute is an item that you can take with you and play anywhere just to annoy people and pass the time.

Blueh 12-05-2013 12:16 PM

Woah, woah, woah. The piano is not a piece of garbage. It's not anyone's fault that you can't figure out how to use it correctly. If you paid 50k on an item you can't even use correctly, that's all on you. I bought the piano, and I love it. For me it was a great purchase, because I still use it, and I've learned some great songs on it. If you don't believe me, there's a thread floating around here where I posted a recording of myself playing Whistle, by Flo Rida on the Graal piano. However, I do agree that the piano should be a refundable furniture item like all other furniture out there. Because some people cannot figure out how to budget their resources, and wind up wasting their money on things they don't use.

Ash Ketchum 12-05-2013 12:23 PM

The piano is a great decoration piece anyways

Dusty 12-05-2013 06:34 PM

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Posted by Blueh (Post 433092)
Woah, woah, woah. The piano is not a piece of garbage. It's not anyone's fault that you can't figure out how to use it correctly. If you paid 50k on an item you can't even use correctly, that's all on you. I bought the piano, and I love it. For me it was a great purchase, because I still use it, and I've learned some great songs on it. If you don't believe me, there's a thread floating around here where I posted a recording of myself playing Whistle, by Flo Rida on the Graal piano. However, I do agree that the piano should be a refundable furniture item like all other furniture out there. Because some people cannot figure out how to budget their resources, and wind up wasting their money on things they don't use.

Would you hate me if I said I wanted to redo the piano interface? It's silly on an iPad(the type of device that would most benefit from it), and the lack in multiple touch input is disappointing since you can't do chords.

I'd like to see it redone to stretch and fill the bottom half of your screen as well as detect multiple touches, but I have no experience with the latter.

Fire Surge 12-05-2013 06:54 PM

If it had multi-touch input I would maybe buy it.

Also, the option to select an octave would be really nice.

Blueh 12-05-2013 08:45 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 433148)
Would you hate me if I said I wanted to redo the piano interface? It's silly on an iPad(the type of device that would most benefit from it), and the lack in multiple touch input is disappointing since you can't do chords.

I'd like to see it redone to stretch and fill the bottom half of your screen as well as detect multiple touches, but I have no experience with the latter.

Well, if it's to improve and to expand upon it then I see no reason why not. Would the same mechanics of an iPad apply to other iDevices with retina display, or only iPad exclusively?

Dusty 12-05-2013 08:48 PM

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Posted by Blueh (Post 433201)
Well, if it's to improve and to expand upon it then I see no reason why not. Would the same mechanics of an iPad apply to other iDevices with retina display, or only iPad exclusively?

It would apply, but it sounds like you've gotten used to the current set-up and I know it's sometimes hard to adapt to change. It's just for my iPad, the keys are small and float in the middle of my screen... it's pretty useless. It seems to make more sense to have them on the bottom of the screen where you can lay it down and play it like an actual piano.

Blueh 12-05-2013 08:53 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 433202)
It would apply, but it sounds like you've gotten used to the current set-up and I know it's sometimes hard to adapt to change.

I have absolutely no clue how a piano works irl. If I can figure out how to play it here without any prior knowledge, I'm certain it wouldn't be difficult to do it again lol.

Dusty 12-05-2013 08:56 PM

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Posted by Blueh (Post 433203)
I have absolutely no clue how a piano works irl. If I can figure out how to play it here without any prior knowledge, I'm certain it wouldn't be difficult to do it again lol.

It would mostly just be a change of its position/scale to fill the bottom-half of your screen. I doubt I'd be adding more keys or anything.

Perpz 12-05-2013 09:33 PM

Blueh, those were my thoughts at that time. I had figured out I did screw up. I bought something I shouldn't have. The piano is not a favorite furniture of mine. I just was to be rid of it forever. I wasn't trying to say it was garbage for everyone, but it was garbage for me.

MrSimons 12-05-2013 10:06 PM

I think MrToasterTarts should be more wise with his money.

Admiral 12-05-2013 10:52 PM

I think that MrSimons is right about MrToasterTarts.

Zorbakid 12-05-2013 11:14 PM

I would drop 50k on a piano just to hear blueh play

CelicGraal 12-05-2013 11:19 PM

This is one of my only problems with graal and have been fussing about this for quiet some time, I hope they do something so I can sell my piano

Blueh 12-05-2013 11:47 PM

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Posted by Zorbakid (Post 433246)
I would drop 50k on a piano just to hear blueh play

Or you could go to my house and do it for free sometime lol?

slyde 12-06-2013 12:21 AM

There should be an option to record your piano play and let it play inside your house like the way radio thingy lets you change the background music.

GOAT 12-06-2013 12:25 AM

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Posted by MrToasterTarts. (Post 433074)
Somewhere either before the Spring of 2013, in the middle, or at the end a glitch was discovered. This glitch involved the piano in Snowtown and gralats. Someway, somehow, players were able to buy a piano for free and sell it for the halved price. From my sources, the admins had no way in telling who had exploited this glitch. The admins had then made the piano unable to sell from your furniture. A little while after this was implemented, MrToasterTarts saw the piano and thought,"Hmm, I wonder if I can learn the basics of the piano with this?" He bought it only to find that he did not enjoy the piano at all. Keep in mind MrToasterTarts has spent 50,000g on something he now sees as a piece of garbage. MrToasterTarts decides to sell it. But wait! He can't! The admins blocked his only way in receiving even half of what he spent! MrToasterTarts finds out more about this. He sits down and thinks,"What did I do to be taunted like this? It'll probably sit there forever. Never to be used. Wasted gralats. I don't even know how to glitch. I only have 500 hours, I hardly know anything about this game. What am I going to do with this junk?" To this very day, MrToasterTarts has left his piano sitting in his house. Only to be taunted every time he sees it. Today, he has a wish. That the admins would allow him to sell the piano and gain back half of what he spent. That is his wish.

When you think you address yourself in the first person but when you type it talks in the 3rd person? Can I ask why good sir?

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Posted by Zorbakid (Post 433246)
I would drop 50k on a piano just to hear blueh play

Oh god you sorry excuse of a future man. Do you not have any self-respect? Grow some dignity and don’t be such an ass kisser. It embarrasses me just by reading it.

ufoburan 12-06-2013 10:28 AM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 433148)
Would you hate me if I said I wanted to redo the piano interface? It's silly on an iPad(the type of device that would most benefit from it), and the lack in multiple touch input is disappointing since you can't do chords.

I'd like to see it redone to stretch and fill the bottom half of your screen as well as detect multiple touches, but I have no experience with the latter.

Just a thought. Instead of redoing the piano itself maybe you could just make an electric keyboard furniture item that would work similar to the piano? I suppose you could just introduce it as a toggleable option like the joystick movement system or the traditional arrow keys.

Quote:

Posted by MrSimons (Post 433224)
I think MrToasterTarts should be more wise with his money.

Nice gif but Leo Dicaprio needs to explode to.

Zorbakid 12-06-2013 11:17 AM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 433281)
Oh god you sorry excuse of a future man. Do you not have any self-respect? Grow some dignity and don’t be such an ass kisser. It embarrasses me just by reading it.

Well I am sorry for complimenting a friend of mine on his piano skills...

It just shows how well one can utilize the piano.

Nabu Lapse 12-06-2013 12:31 PM

Quote:

Posted by Zorbakid (Post 433513)
Well I am sorry for complimenting a friend of mine on his piano skills...

It just shows how well one can utilize the piano.

Just ignore him, he can be an ass sometimes.

GOAT 12-06-2013 04:17 PM

Quote:

Posted by Nabu Lapse (Post 433520)
Just ignore him, he can be an ass sometimes.

wtf is up with this false accusation? When have I been an ass on this forum?:(

Eugeen 12-06-2013 08:59 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 433575)
wtf is up with this false accusation? When have I been an ass on this forum?:(

I lol'd so hard!

but on-topic, that kinda sucks lol

Perpz 12-06-2013 10:13 PM

All I ask is to be able to sell it. That's all I'm asking for. It's horrible looking at it.

HON3Y BADG3R 12-07-2013 05:15 AM

Quote:

Posted by MrToasterTarts. (Post 433674)
All I ask is to be able to sell it. That's all I'm asking for. It's horrible looking at it.


If MrToasterTarts is not able to spend money wisely and can't stand the sight of his abomination, HON3Y BADG3R can help you. He says if you want an item to not look like its there, put a rug over it. Thats how he dealt with GOAT.


http://www.dumonttaxidermy.com/taxid...tngoatrug2.jpg

This is GOAT

Sariss 12-07-2013 05:20 AM

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Posted by HON3Y BADG3R (Post 433886)
Thats how I dealt with GOAT.


http://www.dumonttaxidermy.com/taxid...tngoatrug2.jpg this is GOAT

Correction

Darklink 12-10-2013 04:21 AM

Idk if anyone said this yet, I kinda skimmed over the posts, but the if the piano is going to be updated, is it possible to make it more PC friendly? Each piano key could be mapped to a computer key. I might actually save for one if it weren't for the fact that a laptop trackpad is terrible to move quickly

Dusty 12-10-2013 04:26 AM

Quote:

Posted by Darklink (Post 434941)
Idk if anyone said this yet, I kinda skimmed over the posts, but the if the piano is going to be updated, is it possible to make it more PC friendly? Each piano key could be mapped to a computer key. I might actually save for one if it weren't for the fact that a laptop trackpad is terrible to move quickly

This can be considered, yes :)

Darklink 12-10-2013 11:49 PM

Quote:

Posted by Dusty (Post 434944)
This can be considered, yes :)

Sweet, if this was added I think I'd save for a piano. And turn on my sound for once o-o

4-Lom 12-11-2013 06:41 AM

Out of curiosity, is it just because of hatred for 'free' players that the flute/music tiles cannot be heard through PC? I can hear the piano, but neither of these other musical devices...

Dusty 12-14-2013 04:46 AM

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Posted by Darklink (Post 435161)
Sweet, if this was added I think I'd save for a piano. And turn on my sound for once o-o

Okay, being mapped to 1-= for white and F1-F8 for black good?

Dusty 12-14-2013 08:13 PM

Alright, the update is live:
http://i.imgur.com/BwfDm2l.png

> Fills bottom half of your screen(so it's easier/larger for tablet/iPad players)
> Now supports multi-touch input
> So I also added support for chords(can be admittedly wonky with touch input)
> Now also supports dragging input, so you can drag across the keys now
> Also supports key input for Facebook players.
> You are now kicked after 30 seconds of not playing a key(in public areas. Does not apply to house furniture).

Will be pushed to the other pianos(organ, Saloon) soon.

-Albus 12-14-2013 09:43 PM

Wow, thanks Dusty! Now I can finally play my piano on facebook!

Darklink 12-14-2013 10:14 PM

Quote:

Posted by Dusty (Post 436131)
Alright, the update is live:
http://i.imgur.com/BwfDm2l.png

> Fills bottom half of your screen(so it's easier/larger for tablet/iPad players)
> Now supports multi-touch input
> So I also added support for chords(can be admittedly wonky with touch input)
> Now also supports dragging input, so you can drag across the keys now
> Also supports key input for Facebook players.
> You are now kicked after 30 seconds of not playing a key(in public areas. Does not apply to house furniture).

Will be pushed to the other pianos(organ, Saloon) soon.

Just tried, this, it's pretty cool xD It's a little awkward having it so high up on the keyboard rather than lower like asdfghjkl, but this is much better than before.
Awesome update dusty

Dusty 12-14-2013 10:17 PM

Quote:

Posted by Darklink (Post 436156)
Just tried, this, it's pretty cool xD It's a little awkward having it so high up on the keyboard rather than lower like asdfghjkl, but this is much better than before.
Awesome update dusty

Well there are 12 white keys, and the only place they could fit without interfering with other keys was up there.

I'm not sure if there's really a natural setup people use for this sort of thing, but feel free to throw me some suggestions(take into consideration there are 12 white keys and 8 black keys).


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