MK23s have been nerfed :(
 

Sam and recruvez are dumbfkers who need to burn in oil.

Changes to mk23s
Higher freeze
No spread

A little harsh, no?

Recurvez is, sam ain't bad

They are both useless. Sam can make guns but not balance them and Rec does nothing. Both should be fired and Meph or BabyGhost should be hired.

NOW MK23s ARE JUST CRAPPY RESKINNED VERSIONS OF THR DESERT EAGLES AND AP7s.

The ONE gun which I thought was worth buying is now useless to me...

THANKS FOR NOTHING.

Why is the Era playerbase never happy with any changes?

Not saying the players are at fault, but everyone seems angry at everything in Era.

Because Era is terrible at most changes.

^^^

They've literally...

Taken a perfectly good gun and made it WORSE.

Even if there was NOTHING wrong with it.

Do that sort of thing with a more popular gun like the BAR or PBP and people go nuts.

There were NO complaints against the MK23s yet it's STILL gets a nerf...

well think about it. The mk23s are absolutley useless now since there the exact same as deagles and ap7s but 7 damage. They ruined a perfectly good gun and i think thats the 4th time they changed a gun that was fine.

not if you have a racist as a gun admin who thinks he's so hardcore cause he has 100,000 spar wins and gets a 7 streak in a base(with bar and pbp)

and also have another GA who is clueless and wastes all his time making gun reskins and nerfing/buffing guns that were fine and making them OP or useless.

meph said he might return

So use another gun.

MK, what about the number 23?

Mortal Kombat 23; The sequel to Mortal Kombat 22

Lol, gay GA's.

RecurveZ quit anyways.
Only left Sam.
They possible need more.

I haven't touched the mk23's and neither was I notified about their stats being changed, they were one of my favourite guns and there was no issues with their stats,
Once again ghetto before you start flaming people try make sure your information is correct.

Onto ghettos little sidekick greg, you haven't really seen any of my balancing, I tend not to touch the existing guns stats (which back to ghetto saying all i've been doing is nerfing things is untrue) unless there is a big issue with it, and most of the stuff I have balanced you guys don't even know about yet.

However I do find it quite interesting that on the forums you're both keyboard warriors but not once have either of you pmed me ingame about any "issues" you have with me, I always read my pms so I won't accept that as an excuse..

Because complaining is easier than commending

Edit:
What do you guys think is different about them? I used them just then and they seem the same as they were a few weeks ago? It has a higher fire rate than the deagle and more spread

Lol true but I don't really agree with Sam being a bad admin. But for Recurve, definitely LOL.

Hang on one second here. Do we have another era admin acting like an idiot on graalians? (Seems like since you all moved to era-go you just insult the era players that are still on here)

How is this making one an 'idiot' just cause he/she is an admin?
Have you seen or tried how to make guns or balance their stats? No.
That's the final answer.
If you're going to argue, don't do it here so.
I'm gonna confirm with this whole fake case- doesn't mean the admin isn't on or something you can't verify yourself doesn't mean no one will help.

PR's- will always contact the admin you need. Via PM or email. Simple as cake.

RecurveZ made raffica's only so far I knew.
The rest I guess it was others.

Balancing existing guns is what we need. AC, PBP and many other weapons need balancing out. AC is stupidly OP with knockback and PBP still is better than it should be.
Why should we be pming you about all these things when there is a forum or 2 forums that are perfectly good for that. You read both so that is not an excuse.

You have most likely never seen a thread with where an admin then comments on it. It turns very hostile quickly due to staff not being mature (he called both ghetto and greg keyboard warriors, you know not so mature)

Well now they have NO spread...

Which pretty much looses all it's touch...

Because most of the things they change are better for the staff, worse for the actual players.

Because there's a game similar to keyboard warriors?
Heard of it, never played it.
Fun game ever. Now then, continue topic.

The thread had already turned hostile after the first post

Well maybe if you want your opinion to be heard actually say it rather than just bashing myself and rec in almost every thread you go to. The PBP is already being looked at as you know since you've seen the thread, and the AC would have been next, if you read the entire thread you would have seen where I explained that just changing a stat isn't something that just happens whenever I feel like it, it takes time because we need permission for touching older guns.

Back to the thread i'm still not even sure the mk23's were even touched by anyone, I checked their current stats and their stats on the dev server (basically for backup files) and they look the same as they have been since I bought them which was about a month and a half ago..

Well then i apologies for defending myself from false accusations (this isn't the first time from ghetto), anyone who does so, like me, must be an idiot.

how ****ing ******ed are you? do you even play era? the last time i checked, the MK23s had less freeze and had spread unlike now where they have more freeze and 100 accuracy. DAFUQ sam go ****ing play era and admit for once you were wrong, and i was right.

Challenge Accepted

you reversed three of mephs nerfs/buffs, scratch that, 4 as of now
Glock
M4
Candy bazooka
MK23

lets see, you added freaking knock back to explosives, made every semi auto launcher OP along with petrols.


The only thing you did right was buffing the P2ks. But they still are not beating BAR, and the BAR needs a nerf big time. Dont give me the typical "BUT WE CAN'T NERF A 200K GUN! EVERYONE WILL BE PISSED!" well theres a gun that can't beat it and cost 100k pks + another 200k, only solution is to nerf the bar.

lets see what else needs a nerf
BAR, increase spread to 2.5
AC, get rid of the "critical hit" where it can deal up to 12damage from being hit square on and being hit by the fire, remove knockback.
SOCOM, a small ROF nerf
PBP, increase spread to 3.25
Candy bazooka, M4, glock - go back to mephs nerf, they were fine.

and a buff
Assault rifle needs a humongus buff
Ghost M4 (nothing huge, just a reload buff)
Muzis need more spread
All single shot launchers. Should be the only guns in game with knockback and critical hit.
MK23- go back to mephs buff.

pft hell no i am not going to PM you, since my PMs would be too long and then i would rage quit talking to you because of the ridiculose "advertisement" filter (seriously needs to go)
Second, I would be PMing you on era-go but a freaking ****** named snk and a dumb ho named jeni perm banned me on era-go for posting something here and this website is not affiliated with era or eraGO in anyway.
Third, i would PM you here but your rarely on, and the only time your on is to defend the honor that you do not have.

Glock was nerfed by rec while my pc broken, I have not been told or heard of any changes to the m4, candy bazooka i did touch but that was just an ammo decrease from 10-5 via several requests, as i've already stated I have not touched the mk23's.

And the knockback was added by snk, which i personally didn't like and am pushing to have removed from the ac

Request an unban from Snk and Jeni, if you're sincere and stopped acting the way you do on graalians then they would most likely unban you. Before you retort actually try it first.

Also just a tip, adding more spread as your idea of nerfing isn't the best idea. A higher spread makes it ALOT harder to dodge. As for the pbp, though at the moment you can't comment go read the thread in weapons on era-go i made, i've given 3 alternatives to the pbps current stats.

Finally I'll get someone to check the logs to see when the mk23's were changed, I did notice a message in recs comments yesterday saying that the mk23's accuracy needed to be 100%. If thats the case then i'll fix it because the singles already have 100% accuracy and they were fine before.

yeah i already did and emailed jeni my terms, but of course, nothing happened. And if anything, i should be getting an apology from staff for perm ban on erago + 15hours of jail time for posting on a site that is not affiliated with era or era go in anyway

not if you add so much spread to it that it cant hit anything. It would be best on pbp though as it would add in more holes to dodge unlike now where its a tight spread and forces you to move. Also it would eliminate the being way to good at long rang where your taking 8+ dmg.

Then rec probally touched the m4 cause when meph was around it shot between a bar and famas unlike now where its shooting as fast as a tommy.
Rec probally screwed around with candy launcher cause that had 10clip and a ac rof (still does) also keep in mind that rec was also a GA with you so his changes counts with you in my mind.

For god sakes stop letting snk make you all his personal biatchs and allowing him to do whatever he wants. Make him ask before making huge darastic gameplay decisions like this, or making major level changes (southridge)

Why cant you look yourself and save 3 weeks worth of time? Pc broken?

Well fk this era go even banned my IP adress, as a perm ban wasnt enough. Damn they get butthurt ez

this is interesting.

Don't have rights,
anyway looks like what I thought was right, the only change made to the mk23's by whoever did it was making it 100% accurate. I've readded the old spread so have fun?

That's true but my pc was broken during that time. I don't get why you were saying it was broken for months, it was about 3 weeks since I had exams around that time I didn't even bother fixing it as it would have been a distraction.

Oh god the war has only begun.

MK, this 23 is getting out of control.

Lol, then they would be fired and replaced.

Seriously though Ghetto, why don't you apply? I genuinely mean it, you come across as someone who knows a ****load about guns so you'd benefit iEra greatly.

When you buy the guns the description precisely says, '100% accuracy'

The vast majority of changes, bar hirings, don't benefit the staff at all.

No offense to 'Mr. Ghetto I. Tea', but I don't think anyone, let alone him, can fix the balance catastrophe of guns - specifically due to their pricing. Time and time again, I reiterate: guns wouldn't be hard to balance at all had the in-game "economists" not priced guns 200k Gralats apart.

nope, i could probaly fix some weapons, but with era and its current gun balance situation, its impossible to balance them without completly reseting all the weapons stats and completly re writing the games combat style.

First off its pointless since all staff hate me,
second i have no clue to code GS2
third i know not much about spar combat, i would make all the weapons for bases and sparrers would be pissed.

We do say our opinions and jack all gets done about it except some lame excuses. Look at Meph. Everyone knew what he did and he explained all his reasons and answered all questions in a clear way. You and Rec never listen to anything or if you do you rarely respond at all unless you just want to insult people who have an opinion that is different from yours.

WTF you're going to let snk bully you like that? you manage the guns, demand full rights to those scripts.

or defend there "honor" that does not exist.

I think some of you have a deluded view on Sam's job. He doesn't just log on and say
"Gee, today I think I'm gonna make this gun slower!"
His job is making guns fair for their price. If he gets enough complaints regarding a weapon, he will balance it. And even then you have to take into account the difficulty of even miniscule changes to weapons.
Honestly he does a pretty good job at what he does, and if it was as easy as you all make it sound, then all the guns would be balanced, and this thread wouldn't exist in the first place.

invalid statement.
PBP still has stack damage
AC is still OP
BAR nerf since p2ks are not supirior to the BAR
L96 is underpowered
GM4 is a tad underpowered for the price
SOCOM is still OP
Assault rifle is underpowered
Muzis underpowered
These are just a few of the things that the community has ranted on and on about yet nothing has been done about it.

This is that same deluded viewpoint I said before. If Sam receives legitimate complaints, not just a bunch of whiny kids complaining of how "blah blah I spent 15k on a gun and it isn't as good as a gun that costs 200k blah blah"
And I don't understand why so many people moan about the bar.
200,000
Two hundred thousand
TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND
Let's do math
200,000/27500= just over 7
7x10=70$
If anyone spends 70$ on one pixelated gun, than its gonna be better than your little deagles, get over it.
And besides, bar is beatable, and bar is balanced for its price
I don't even own a bar, and I think it's a fair gun.

All of those so called "issues" with guns are just a load of crap, excluding the note about the assault rifle, which I agree, is underpowered.

Do you want to be an admin or are you just blind?

He was saying about the P2Ks should be better not about making deagles better than it.

Your making an unreasonable generalisation. Just because I agree with an admin doesn't mean I'm kissing his crap as an attempt to get hired

Reread his post. He was moaning about how bar needs a nerf. My response was not specified to specifically p2ks, I was rather pointing out that bar is gonna be the best no matter what.

Get your facts right before you throw flame

He wants bar nerfed so the p2ks can be better. I think his demands are reasonable.

1. It's debatable which is better, as far as sparring goes, p2k are better
2. Why are you asking for bar to get nerfed, and not p2k to get buffed.
3. They won't nerf bar, as it would result in riots and it would be unfair to those who spent the 200k
4. Much more people have bar, and the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few

you sir are a class A dumbass. The p2ks deserve to be better than the BAR since its way more expensive. Not only does it cost 200k, but you also have to take the time to get 100,000 kills.

lol this thread
lol this balancing
lol this pricing

There's no way to properly balance the gun balance/pricing system at its current state without pissing a lot of people off. Had guns been at least remotely close to each other in pricing, then balancing guns would be peachy, to the point where anyone with an inklet of a clue about the gameplay can properly balance the game. The gameplay mechanics of Era are so basic and barebones; it's not the fact that the staff can't statistically balance the weapons in such a barebones game. That's the easy part.

The problem lies with the pricing. After the ridiculously outrageous prices were set on guns such as the likes of the BAR or PBP, you've crossed the event horizon. The point of no return. Nerfing these weapons to bring them in line with the rest of the low- and mid-tier weapons is essentially scamming everyone who previously purchased them, and keepin them in their current state makes the people who can't afford the weapons at a severe disadvantage. I usually don't say this, but...

iEra is a pay to win game at its finest.

Really?

I didn't know that...

^yes^

there actually is a way to balance the guns. Only possible to perfect balance through absolute reset of weapons and re balance all of them.

That's never going to happen, it would take immense amounts of work, and would be basically scamming all the people who purchased guns already.

I don't think you read my post at all.