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DaScientist 11-11-2013 06:39 PM

PBP needs a buff
 
Tbh, the PBP Shotgun really needs a buff now. The admins have nerfed it too greatly and it's quite uselss now. Maybe increase the damage to 9 damage per bullet or either remove its freeze. Pls admins it's not worth 125k now.

5hift 11-11-2013 07:50 PM

GREAT.

ANOTHER ONE OF THESE THREADS...

optimuswhat 11-11-2013 08:03 PM

So we meet again, DaScientist.
Unfortunately (or fortunately), I agree on your idea about the PBP being nerfed...
But not in your vision.

xDesire 11-11-2013 08:21 PM

What? Era go didn't want you either so they sent you back here?

fsh 11-11-2013 08:46 PM

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iBob32 11-11-2013 09:30 PM

ok.

just.


ok.

Nabu Lapse 11-11-2013 11:54 PM

Yep yep, okay. Let's just make every bullet 9 damage and have it do like 25+ damage overall. Sounds fantastic!

Mystickk 11-12-2013 12:41 AM

*says people complain abou too many things in era*
*complains about a gun being "nerfed"*

cri moar pl0x

doodleman171 11-12-2013 02:30 AM

Quote:

Posted by 5hifter (Post 427027)
GREAT.

ANOTHER ONE OF THESE THREADS...

^^^

DaScientist 11-12-2013 03:16 AM

Lol sry typo error i meant 5 dmg each bullet

Shotgunz=bawss 11-12-2013 03:26 AM

The PBP got nerfed?

Ghettoicedtea 11-12-2013 03:36 AM

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Posted by Shotgunz=bawss (Post 427143)
The PBP got nerfed?

Yes (thank you meph) it was super OP since it avoided hit timer, only now OP pking outside.

Bar needs a nerf big time. P2ks should be Stats wise the best gun in game, not the BAR.

Talon 11-12-2013 07:14 AM

I'm quite astonished that after all this time, the gun staff hasn't found a way to properly balance this weapon. All would be well and good had its pricing not been astronomically more expensive than a comparable weapon (M3). The thing is, you can't nerf it to be in line with the rest of the weapons after scamming a bunch of people out of a stupidly high amount of Gralats anymore, and you can't keep it overpowered without another group of people bitching. It was ****ed from the moment they decided to price it 120,000 Gralats above the M3. Here's to hoping Delteria has a halfway-decent economics and weapons staff.

R o g u e 11-12-2013 08:51 AM

Its so fkin simple its dead center in their face.Just make the the bullets do 8 damage and not stack.Damm is it so hard,half of era ask for this but you just ignore them and make it even worse!!!

99% 11-12-2013 01:58 PM

I believe the only way to truly fix this problem is to get rid of iEra as a whole. Lel.

optimuswhat 11-12-2013 02:53 PM

Quote:

Posted by DaScientist (Post 427138)
Lol sry typo error i meant 5 dmg each bullet

Wait.
The five is...
3 numbers before the 9!
How u do dis o-o

Mystickk 11-12-2013 04:08 PM

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Posted by 99% (Post 427261)
I believe the only way to truly fix this problem is to get rid of iEra as a whole. Lel.

Either that or take PBP out of era and refund everyone full price, but that won't happen.

Ghettoicedtea 11-12-2013 08:01 PM

i will be completely honest with you guys. The pbp statisicly wise is fine. The only problem with all shotguns if you ask me is they avoid the hit timer outside of bases and that they are way to good at long range combat. Is it annoying as hell to get hit once and take 16 dmg especially while on a good run. But its not tedious. What I think needs to be done with shotguns is a massive spread rate, im talking spread era has never seen before. Im thinking 2.5-3.0 spread rate. This way, there will be a huge gap to dodge shots at longer ranges. Also by doing this you will make the pbp good for only one thing, close quarters.

fsh 11-13-2013 01:34 AM

http://i.imgur.com/G062H.gif

Ghettoicedtea 11-13-2013 04:32 AM

Obama care wont cover you if you get diabites from cheetos.

fsh 11-13-2013 05:33 AM

or eggs

http://i.imgur.com/9dF0x.gif

Dinamic 11-13-2013 10:45 PM

After all, it's up to iEra staff to decide if the guns gets buffed. Hopefully for those who bought the PBP, iEra staff will take this thread to consideration. I agree with you guys 100% but meaningless suggestions like "Shut down Graalonline" or "Refunds" which you know damn well won't happen, is wasting time. I'm not going to lie though, iEra sure as hell acts like they don't have life worth of gralats for refunds.

5hift 11-13-2013 11:00 PM

Solution:

JUST LEAVE IT BE.

IT'S FINE.

As long as there's still people dumb enough to buy it, everything will be FINE.

Mystickk 11-13-2013 11:49 PM

Quote:

Posted by 5hifter (Post 427552)
Solution:

JUST LEAVE IT BE.

IT'S FINE.

As long as there's still people dumb enough to buy it, everything will be FINE.

I wouldn't call them dumb, just not skilled in PK. The gun is probably reasonable for it's price considering the BAR is worth more and PBP does greater damage (pfft logic) but it's what like 4 maybe 5 shots just to kill a person? Not to mention that if you get hit and killed with it, before you have time to move it'll already get your life down to half or more, where as you get hit with a regular gun it gives you 5 seconds to revive without getting hurt. Totally bs imo

L0N3 P4ND4 11-14-2013 02:23 AM

why not get rid of some freeze and make the hit damage 4 not 3

Ghettoicedtea 11-14-2013 01:04 PM

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Posted by L0N3 P4ND4 (Post 427585)
why not get rid of some freeze and make the hit damage 4 not 3

NO.

L0N3 P4ND4 11-14-2013 03:32 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 427713)
NO.

But the pbp sucks now I no longer use it cause it sucks I have to stick with the m4

lord greg 11-14-2013 07:03 PM

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Posted by L0N3 P4ND4 (Post 427728)
But the pbp sucks now I no longer use it cause it sucks I have to stick with the m4

It doesn't suck. It might require more skill but you people act as though it does 1 damage unstacked with stupidly high freeze which it doesn't.

Ghettoicedtea 11-14-2013 08:21 PM

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Posted by L0N3 P4ND4 (Post 427728)
But the pbp sucks now I no longer use it cause it sucks I have to stick with the m4

go outside of a base. It freakin rapes lil kiddos

now what needs a nerf is the BAR

99% 11-14-2013 10:23 PM

You know what needs a nerf? The staff team. #nerffamehoeprs k thx bai

iBob32 11-15-2013 12:00 AM

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Posted by L0N3 P4ND4 (Post 427728)
But the pbp sucks now I no longer use it cause it sucks I have to stick with the m4

I Cried a little bit, I am not going to lie.

L0N3 P4ND4 11-15-2013 05:30 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 427759)
go outside of a base. It freakin rapes lil kiddos

now what needs a nerf is the BAR

i do that and the pbp cant get me anywhere anymore. but yeah the bar needs a nerf

Ghettoicedtea 11-15-2013 06:09 PM

Your serious right? The pbp is essentaly cheating since it avoids all hit timers

Shotgunz=bawss 11-15-2013 07:18 PM

Lol, stop complaining about your op gun getting nerfed, get on my level and try to kill someone holding a BAR with an MP40

lord greg 11-15-2013 07:19 PM

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Posted by Shotgunz=bawss (Post 427950)
Lol, stop complaining about your op gun getting nerfed, get on my level and try to kill someone holding a BAR with an MP40

Wow we got a hardman here.

Shotgunz=bawss 11-15-2013 07:22 PM

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Posted by lord greg (Post 427952)
Wow we got a hardman here.

Im not kidding.

99% 11-15-2013 10:47 PM

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Posted by Shotgunz=bawss (Post 427954)
Im not kidding.

Shush yourself child. Your forums name is "shotgunz=bawss". You're probably crying right now.

L0N3 P4ND4 11-16-2013 12:53 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 427942)
Your serious right? The pbp is essentaly cheating since it avoids all hit timers

so many people just dodge my bullets and the freeze time is crazy so they just end up killing me =_=

Shotgunz=bawss 11-16-2013 02:21 AM

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Posted by 99% (Post 427988)
Shush yourself child. Your forums name is "shotgunz=bawss". You're probably crying right now.

I hate my forums name, I don't know what I was thinking when I made my account. Plus I don't cry over an online forum for a game.

DaScientist 11-16-2013 03:55 AM

Quote:

Posted by Shotgunz=bawss (Post 427950)
Lol, stop complaining about your op gun getting nerfed, get on my level and try to kill someone holding a BAR with an MP40

Lol. I'm able to beat a bar with M4 and M8A1. I'm just angry that the PBP got nerfed because era has scammed our money. They shouldn't be changing gun stats after people have bought them.

lord greg 11-16-2013 02:24 PM

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Posted by DaScientist (Post 428037)
Lol. I'm able to beat a bar with M4 and M8A1. I'm just angry that the PBP got nerfed because era has scammed our money. They shouldn't be changing gun stats after people have bought them.

If guns were not changed then era would be dead. People would have OP guns so everyone would need 1 type of gun otherwise they can never do anything.

L0N3 P4ND4 11-16-2013 03:41 PM

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Posted by lord greg (Post 428140)
If guns were not changed then era would be dead. People would have OP guns so everyone would need 1 type of gun otherwise they can never do anything.

That isn't true

fsh 11-16-2013 06:45 PM

http://i.imgur.com/c0soEte.gif

Ghettoicedtea 11-16-2013 10:56 PM

Quote:

Posted by DaScientist (Post 428037)
Lol. I'm able to beat a bar with M4 and M8A1. I'm just angry that the PBP got nerfed because era has scammed our money. They shouldn't be changing gun stats after people have bought them.

shut up and get skill.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 11-17-2013 12:57 AM

Here's an extract from my era-go thread, on rebalancing it, before you say anything about why it should be buffed and not nerfed go read the original thread- http://www.era-go.com/forum/showthread.php?8269-Pbp

"I'll give you a few options of what I personally want to do with the PBP. Make it 15 damage max, (2 damage per bullet default, 3 perfect, 5 bullets, 25 clip same freeze), 12 damage max, (4 bullets, 2 damage per bullet default, 4 perfect, 24 clip, 6 shots) And 4 bullets, 20 clip, 8 damage per bullet not stacked, slightly higher fire rate(means the gun can shoot faster), notice the word slightly, not major."

Shotgunz=bawss 11-17-2013 04:49 AM

Quote:

Posted by DaScientist (Post 428037)
Lol. I'm able to beat a bar with M4 and M8A1. I'm just angry that the PBP got nerfed because era has scammed our money. They shouldn't be changing gun stats after people have bought them.

M4 and M8A1 are right up there with the BAR.

NeoZX 11-17-2013 05:53 AM

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Posted by 5hifter (Post 427027)
GREAT.

ANOTHER ONE OF THESE THREADS...

Solution: take these guys, and put them on Error- I mean Era go.

Ghettoicedtea 11-17-2013 06:45 AM

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Posted by Cobalt (Post 428301)
Solution: take these guys, and put them on Error- I mean Era go.

Problem is though they will get banned.

Quote:

Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 428255)
Here's an extract from my era-go thread, on rebalancing it, before you say anything about why it should be buffed and not nerfed go read the original thread- http://www.era-go.com/forum/showthread.php?8269-Pbp

"I'll give you a few options of what I personally want to do with the PBP. Make it 15 damage max, (2 damage per bullet default, 3 perfect, 5 bullets, 25 clip same freeze), 12 damage max, (4 bullets, 2 damage per bullet default, 4 perfect, 24 clip, 6 shots) And 4 bullets, 20 clip, 8 damage per bullet not stacked, slightly higher fire rate(means the gun can shoot faster), notice the word slightly, not major."

The non stacked wont pass but im sure everyone wants it. Heck the largest group on erago was my anti shotgun group where we want no more stacked dmg on shotguns. But knowing how spoiled the playerbase is they will cry cause there pbp is not as good.
I honestly think just leave it as is but give it a massive spread of 4.0 that way you get rid off the dealing massive damage at range, your still going to roll out a 4 dmg shot but theres more gaps to dodge bullets. Also it would only effective in close quarters.

NeoZX 11-17-2013 06:52 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 428318)
Problem is though they will get banned.



The non stacked wont pass but im sure everyone wants it. Heck the largest group on erago was my anti shotgun group where we want no more stacked dmg on shotguns. But knowing how spoiled the playerbase is they will cry cause there pbp is not as good.
I honestly think just leave it as is but give it a massive spread of 4.0 that way you get rid off the dealing massive damage at range, your still going to roll out a 4 dmg shot but theres more gaps to dodge bullets. Also it would only effective in close quarters.

Banned for having an opinion?

lord greg 11-17-2013 07:09 PM

Quote:

Posted by Cobalt (Post 428321)
Banned for having an opinion?

Yes.


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