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Ghettoicedtea 10-09-2013 02:30 AM

Assault rifle. DO NOT BUY
 
I bought the assault rifle today and boy oh boy sam is a lieing sack of crap. Dont look at the description, its false advertising and a refund would be great to have because of false advertisment, the gun does 7 dmg default, not 8.
So with that in mind, the burst fire is a cool concept, but since your clip size is only 6 shots. Also it dosent help that it takes 7 shots to kill someone instead of 6 and your clip size is only 6. The + is the low freeze, a good gani and a laser. However theres so many negitives, the first one being the delay is so long between each shot, 7 damage default meaning it takes 7 shots to kill instead of 6, last the clip size is only 6 so you cant take out people with one clip and thats the most annoying thing ever. Also one more thing, its freaking stacked damage, each bullet does 3 damage. Theres really no good effective role for this gun and it does not stand up to the name Assault Rifle as if you take the front lines with this gun yo screwed. Its overall fun to use, but it sucks ass. Do not get.
Its really a underpowered weapon, needs to be 8 dmg default and no stack, then it can actually compete.
If you think im wrong, then it cost 30,000 and is located by the neo rifle.

R o g u e 10-09-2013 05:21 AM

Damn.

Talon 10-09-2013 08:09 AM

Why does Era still use these ****ty descriptions to rip people off? Never mind, I answered my own question.

Mejico Josh 10-09-2013 08:10 AM

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Posted by Talon (Post 417750)
Why the hell does Era still use these ****ty descriptions to rip people off? Never mind, I answered my own question.

Because it gets people to buy packs and then this gun if they want it.

DragonRider 10-09-2013 09:11 AM

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Posted by Talon (Post 417750)
Why does Era still use these ****ty descriptions to rip people off? Never mind, I answered my own question.

Advertising

Dark Ice Cream 10-09-2013 09:43 AM

Lel.... Fun but ****

Ghettoicedtea 10-09-2013 05:14 PM

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Posted by DragonRider (Post 417762)
Advertising

false advertising more like it.

I actually did find a good use to this gun, it by passes the pk timers outdoors, still makes no difference though since the delay between shots is so long.

Terrio 10-10-2013 02:44 AM

It's only 30k, and actually pretty decent since it stacks damage and not alot of freeze.. This is nothing to be complaining about lolol

Ghettoicedtea 10-10-2013 02:59 AM

Are you ****ting me? It only does 3 damage perbullet default, slow rof, small clip, long time to kill only good thing is the freeze, otherwise This guns garbage.

Terrio 10-10-2013 04:20 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 418019)
Are you ****ting me? It only does 3 damage perbullet default, slow rof, small clip, long time to kill only good thing is the freeze, otherwise This guns garbage.

Yea but it stacks damage if you land both hits, colt6 is 30k and is worse than the assault go make a thread about that lolol

Rotaruc 10-10-2013 04:21 AM

Money hungry mofos. F era

NeoZX 10-10-2013 05:11 AM

Wow. Now I've seen crap, but I think we're scraping the bottom of the barrel..

Meph 10-10-2013 02:15 PM

I'll have to check this gun out for myself; your reviews have me curious.
It's funny-- years ago, USDing weapons on Graal was an illegal, bannable offense. Nowadays it's the only efficient route to go.

It's rough on the Gun Admin(s); it's a very temperamental job, they've got to know what they're doing, otherwise it's a vicious snowball effect. I personally loved the job, every time I held the position. Unfortunately it was way time consuming to juggle with having two children, full-time college, and a full-time job. I'm going to see if I can give a helping hand doing something on iEra next semester, time permitting. I've missed it.

It's possible that this issue with the false advertising on this gun could have been a bad game of telephone. The description could have already been set before the gun was finalized, and when it was released the final changes probably weren't reported or recorded by the person who sets the description(which isn't always the Guns Admin). Separate rights are required to set the description of a gun, and whomever was in charge of this project may not have had sufficient rights to do the whole job alone, requiring a middle-man between him and the official release of the gun. At the end of the day though, everybody should be on the same page before a gun is released to the public. Real money is involved, and it's just bad business to falsely advertise a weapon.

I really dislike the fact that real money is a factor-- it made the job as Guns Admin ten times more stressful because it removed the flexibility and freedom for me to do what I wanted with guns, and forced me to find other ways to tweak the system to try to make the game more fair.

People nowadays have little interest in a gun if it doesn't do heavier damage and/or have a higher fire rate or lower freeze than one they already have in their arsenal. This, coupled with the pressure that, if they set a price tag, people will expect it to perform competitively with those within the same price range-- as it should; no matter what currency is being applied. The flaw again, is the current perception of what "competitive performance" is.

The issue I encountered as iEra Guns Admin was that the guns that were already released when I came aboard were already too powerful for my liking, and, had real money never been a factor, I would have just done what I did on PC Era and set those powerful guns to make more sense, shortening the gap between the M4-tier and BAR-tier guns.

I run with the philosophy that somebody's wallet should have no bearing on their success in a fight. I always have, and I always will. I have this stance because I worked hard to get good at PKing-- in my time, such handicaps weren't available; and I'm glad they weren't. It made for more competitive game play, and gave us all something to shoot for, and the time we invested in reaching that goal prompted us to play longer. People are less inclined to develop this mentality if they have the easy route of just purchasing a gun to do the work for them. Easy come, easy go.

Unfortunately, I couldn't apply the rule to encourage this mentality because, as I said, the bar (no pun intended) was already set. Changing a gun that people spent bookoo bucks on is pure immoral theft. It would be like a McDonalds employee reaching out to your tray and removing a beef patty and bread layer from a Big Mac after you've already purchased it and saying, "Sorry sir, we should have never done this".

Good to see you all.

Rotaruc 10-10-2013 02:23 PM

Summary of this ^^^^

Era is p2w. There's too many op weapons and new weapons that r being/ have been released r no match for the op-ness of the guns we already have. Nd he would like to help but he's busy with real life.

Talon 10-10-2013 05:33 PM

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Posted by DragonRider (Post 417762)
Advertising

They're not advertising ****, they're just saying: "Here's an ambiguous description of this weapon containing a maximum of five (5) words. Instead of giving you the raw stats, we want you to blow off your money before you know what you're buying."

Ghettoicedtea 10-10-2013 06:27 PM

they also gave false stats to the GM4. It does 8 dmg base not 9

Also more rip off guns is the L96, PKSM, M416, SA80, P2K single and dual, FNP90, DMR, Gas gun, Chainsaw gun,

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Posted by Meph (Post 418183)
The issue I encountered as iEra Guns Admin was that the guns that were already released when I came aboard were already too powerful for my liking, and, had real money never been a factor, I would have just done what I did on PC Era and set those powerful guns to make more sense, shortening the gap between the M4-tier and BAR-tier guns.

you still can shorten the gap, its not that hard. The BAR would be providing heavy suppressing fire at the cost of higher freeze unlike the M4 that is slower but your manuvering is much easier. Also shorting the gap would cause a lot of bar nubs to leave, less bar spam and less lag for server, or, if there smart buy a tomphson.

Terrio 10-10-2013 10:18 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 418233)
they also gave false stats to the GM4. It does 8 dmg base not 9

Also more rip off guns is the L96, PKSM, M416, SA80, P2K single and dual, FNP90, DMR, Gas gun, Chainsaw gun,



you still can shorten the gap, its not that hard. The BAR would be providing heavy suppressing fire at the cost of higher freeze unlike the M4 that is slower but your manuvering is much easier. Also shorting the gap would cause a lot of bar nubs to leave, less bar spam and less lag for server, or, if there smart buy a tomphson.

DMR?

Ghettoicedtea 10-11-2013 04:41 PM

Yeah that 75k gun thats in g187s ripoff gun shop

Richard 10-11-2013 09:34 PM

@meph, I'm on an iPhone and that post is to long winded for me to even begin to pick out what I like about what you said, but you're exactly right and I think that's the main reason I started disliking this game. Anyway, its worked out ten times better, more time for studying and infinity blade 3 has happily taken its place.

Nice to see you again dude :)

ja2mine 10-11-2013 11:54 PM

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Posted by Talon (Post 418221)
They're not advertising ****, they're just saying: "Here's an ambiguous description of this weapon containing a maximum of five (5) words. Instead of giving you the raw stats, we want you to blow off your money before you know what you're buying."

Era would lie on a gun description?
Or is it just a mistake?

Ghettoicedtea 10-12-2013 01:09 AM

they been false advertising for ages. First example is pbp being 8 damage per shot instead of 3, GM4 being 8 dmg instead of 8, and this gun being 8 damage instead of 3.

just proves the point that eras staff is lazy.

Rotaruc 10-12-2013 01:29 AM

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Posted by ja2mine (Post 418637)
Era would lie on a gun description?
Or is it just a mistake?

you are a new player. I suggest u open your eyes and look at the facts. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is the world $$$$$$$$ is why we do everything we do. $$$$$$ is why era lies. $$$$$$$$$$$. Dont say anything else thats dumb pls

BEH0LD iTz SAM 10-12-2013 09:30 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 417668)
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I'd appreciate it if you got your facts right before you begin accusing people such as myself of "ripping you off". I agree with you that the description may be slightly misleading, but it's not intentionally made to fraud people into buying the gun. I was not the one who made the description, or the stats, but if you read it, it says that it is 8 damage (2 stacked). Which you should be able to comprehend as 2 bullets stacked, equalling to 8 damage. As for the stats maybe it does need a buff, maybe it doesn't but it's hard to take any of your comments seriously when you're always trying to provoke staff members and wanting buffs on guns such as the P2K's which are worth their price.
And as for what Meph said he is completely correct. Just because you are a Guns Admin doesn't mean you can do whatever you want. We aren't given full rights for changing descriptions as that is for the staff higher than us to change. We can't just decide to change a guns stats whenever we feel like, once again it has to go through higher staff and even before that since there's two of us we have to both agree first. So I don't appreciate it when you constantly post on forums, like you did on era-go before someone banned you, things such as "the guns admins are so lazy, they don't do anything, they don't listen to us, all they do is reskin guns instead of changing them" when none of that is true and most of the changes we make you don't see/realise. As for reskinning guns, that is optional. I decided to do it because i thought players would enjoy having new looking guns to play around with that were more or less free if you already owned the gun, as well as to have it as something to do whilst stat changes are being discussed.

So the TLDR is
- The descriptions aren't a purposely made to mislead the player, in the assault rifles case it was a wording error by who ever wrote it
- The descriptions do give an idea as to the guns stats but we don't use stats as some players, who may be younger don't understand them and think something with 0.425 fire rate is fast because it's a high number when its actually it's extremely slow (high fire rate- 0.10-0.20, medium fire rate- 0.20-0.30 Low fire rate- 0.30-0.40), (low freeze/manuverablility- 0.10-0.20 etc)

Thats all.

Livid 10-12-2013 04:08 PM

Ah, i don't play era a lot? so Hum
all i can say here is thats pretty.. bad?????

DragonRider 10-13-2013 09:04 AM

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Posted by Rotaruc (Post 418667)
you are a new player. I suggest u open your eyes and look at the facts. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is the world $$$$$$$$ is why we do everything we do. $$$$$$ is why era lies. $$$$$$$$$$$. Dont say anything else thats dumb pls

Holy ****, do you realize how much of a conspiratard you sound like right now?

DaScientist 10-13-2013 10:47 AM

I thought..Era introduced the trade tables to stop scam. But now they themselves are scamming.


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