Sparring is dead.
 

Let's face it, sparring has become quite an embarassment to the classic community. Ever since (everyone)'s complete b.s. win in the July 2013 GST it seems as if everyone (no pun intended) has completely given up on trying to become the best that they can possibly be at guild sparring considering the fact that no matter how good they get it is impossible to beat anyone that decides to take advantage of their horrid wi-fi and 3rd world country delay. I have not been active in graal recently. The game is dying. The top 10 on the leaderboards has only been delaying french kids. The only person that actually has skill who still rocks the #1 spot is Comyt. (I'm not even going to mention the PC side of things; that's for another time.)

cool opinion

you mean the emotional wreck who has abused the /350 glitch for a year now and still pretends like no one knows he does it

the fact that you even judge people based on their position on a leaderboard shows that you probably care a little too much about their reputation on an online game
do you seriously think any normal and stable person ever reaches the #1 leaderboard spot and stops to think, "HAHAHA, YES, I AM #1 ON THE LEADERBOARD AND NOW EVERYONE ON GRAAL WILL RESPECT ME AS THE BEST"

come on
some people play to have fun and win, others desperately strive to prove they're "the best" through aggressive chatting and gossip/drama
it's not hard to prove you're very good at some part of this game, and that's why you never see the best sparrers whining like this

lock/delete/vanish

Look i dont spar much but evan i know that somebody at the top of the spar leaderboard isnt the best player

eras gst was worse
but what was this BS wining? lagging? glitching?

I can't think of a single game that can keep leaderboards "legit."

PC leaderboard has been fine for months, been #1 on that board 90% of the past year while actively sparring
when it's not me it's either David, Male, or Dante (none of whom do anything unnatural to get there)

they complain about the iDevice leaderboard because it's constantly dominated by Sarah (lives in France, wall spars because she wants to, has slight delay), ABOOD (lives far away from the US, has a high ping), Yui (lives in Japan thus has a high ping, uses alts most of the time she reaches #1), and Edin (Australian, lags, one of the few boosters that still exist on this game)

iDevice players have never been able to adapt and spar against iDevice delayers, thus the leaderboard is theirs to own
personally not good at all against Yui, Sarah, and other delayers, but you won't see me crying over it

again, it's as if you guys give the leaderboard some power to determine who the skilled iDevice sparrers are
that'd be people like Junior, Blood, Vlad, etc.

keep acting racist and hostile towards people like ABOOD and it'll only motivate them to care less about their lag and wall against you harder
just deal with it

No one takes sparring seriously. It has no value.

Everyone knows im the best sparrer of classic with my amauzng spar record

Thallen's spar leadboard remodel should be heavily considered.

As for "lag and walling" being used to acquire high positions on the leaderboard, yeah it happens. You can't blame people that live in foreign countries for lag, it isn't their fault. However, for many of the the non-laggy sparrers, it can be annoying (personally I don't care, as long as they don't purposely abuse it). I only have a problem with two of the laggy sparrers, and those people are Abood and Sarah. Both are stuck-up and snotty, even though the majority of their wins are from constant warping. Also, both constantly go for 'cheap shots' in spar (Hit if other person is talking, afk, etc.). They don't irritate me because their lag, just their personalities.

Anyways, sparring is dead. If you think so, you should delete graal off your device and stop using this forum.

post on your main account and reveal yourself as an unaccomplished and medicore sparrer and then that opinion will make complete sense

what is there to "value" anyway
it's a game
people do it to have fun, the ones who don't have their own problems

you guys can keep whining and trying to talk sparring into the ground and the sparrers who do it for fun and to win will do that
only the bad sparrers try to turn it into a sport of chatting and making these weird claims

it's so awkward to me that people are complaining about the spar community right now, when years ago it was plagued by pause-boosting on the same connection at obscure spars like Sardon's and Angel Clan, transferring accounts, and generally just picking off bad sparrers
get real

Go to an arcade.

I'm not going to lie. I didn't read a single post on this thread. Sparring is just broken in general. I stopped after smooth sparring turned into lag and PC central.

TLDR

Lol. No one cares. Sparring is dead.

P.S: I don't play Classic.

If you don't even classic, how in the world would you have the slightest clue about what's going on. If you don't even play classic you shouldn't be posting random idiotic opinions anyways, it will dig you a deeper hole.

To be honest, everyone could care less about your opinion based on your name "the troll". Anyone who has troll in their name is probably age 14 or less trying to do stupid things to impress their peers, you calling sparring stupid isn't that impressive, but nice attempt, man.

The only reason people get mad at sparring is because it takes time to actually get good at. usually if you look at the consistent #1 sparrers you'll notice they've been playing for a while, it's no coincidence.

Yawn..... Is this essay dedicated to me or something?

Wait, it takes "time" to get good at a dead activity? Lol.

<inb4 long mad paragraph which I really won't read.

^ Idiot. This isn't a mad long paragraph ;)

*Drolls*

Huh?

You guys need to take something else more seriously.

^^This.....


My name states the obvious.

6 sentences isn't an essay, you'll learn that once you get past middleschool, don't worry.

Sparring is dead because me and my friends aren't good at it and we can't achieve high positions on a leaderboard. Everyone please agree with me and deny that others are able to have fun sparring.

I love how I didn't even mention any specific members of (everyone) yet you automatically know that I was referring to Sarah and Abood. Sarah isn't much of a problem though. Yes she delays; as you said she cannot help it. But Abood on the other-hand does not only delay, but he also warps worse than online/offline when he abused lag back in 2010. It's bad enough that (Sage) lost to (everyone) although the rules stated that if a single member of a team were to be disqualified the entire team would also be disqualified. Abood was disqualified; however, (everyone) was not. Plus 7mood was delaying more than 4 seconds at one point. I believe it was also recorded. If you're delay goes from less than a second to 4 seconds it isn't his location on this planet to blame. I'm not even going to go into Sebastian or Jack Sparrow. Anyone who actually spars knows how bad their lag is. My point is sparring is a complete waste of time knowing that you'll never be able to get high streaks again because some frenchy decides to do a 180° to face the opposite way of their router and run a marathon distance away from their router before queuing up.

BOOM ROASTED!!!

So, who started this flame war? I want to see fingers pointing.

You mentioned delayers who were at the top of the leaderboard. It's not exactly hard to pinpoint?

Sorry that you think that, but I'm still able to enjoy sparring and it isn't "dead" at all to me. Don't know what to tell you.

Also, if the entire premise of this thread was to again rehash and cry over Sage getting destroyed in the GST then just move on. Seriously? Some people on this server are so weird about the GST, putting gossip and drama about it in their status two months before it's even to be hosted. There is more to look forward to in life. Like the leaderboard, the GST proves almost nothing. Dunno why Graal is about proving yourself rather than having fun for you kids.

Just from seeing the title I can see you're in for a world of hurt

I guarantee I'm not the only person that feels the way I do. The inactivity of players who actually play the game instead of afk hugging their weekly girlfriend is at an all-time high. Many guilds made up of "pro" sparrers are slowly dying; some already dead; because no one wants to deal with all of the b.s. taking place in the spar rooms.

Admins are not going to outlaw lag. Admins aren't going to ban everyone who isn't American. Admins aren't going to formulate some genius way to determine if lag is natural or if it isn't. Complaining about it is literally not going to do anything, so my suggestion is that you guys either adapt to it or quit Graal.

As far as guilds dying, I'm pretty sure that has more to do with terrible leadership and cowardly, desperate members. Nothing to do with these guys delaying in spars. Do you want to give any specific examples?

Quit graal? Easier said then done. As for specific examples, specific examples of what?

What guilds made up of "pro sparrers" are dying as a result of people like Sarah and ABOOD?

Well for one (Sage) has basically given up on participating in another gst because of the utter bull **** loss. Many members of Ruthless such as Blake and me have quit due to it (resulting in qes absolutely giving up on Ruthless). But this time qes can't run off and pretend to be the returning spiderman since we all know the truth now. But that's for another thread. No one wants to deal with all the lag anymore. It 's become ridiculous. The only active sparrers anymore are the laggy ones.

??? Nope.

Those guilds fell apart because they suck, not because of any laggers. Be serious, dude. Sage died because all of Comyt's temporary friends quit the game or left him for Ruthless. Ruthless fell apart because Qes is a sociopath who jumped at the opportunity to join an adiam guild. Guilds are a whole different story, man. None of the kids from iClassic have any real sense of loyalty or honesty when it comes to a "spar guild" because their utmost concern is winning a GST. 90% of them are extremely weird, emotional, and flaky.

Okay, basically everything you said on this whole thread was completely hypocritical but I'm too lazy to write that big of an essay so I'll just examine post number 1.

First half: I never hid my use of that glitch, I even bragged about it to show how useless the rating leaderboard is. With glitches and selective sparrers all over it, why is it there?
Also, after the seasonal leaderboard resets, I hit the #1 iDevice spot (which was also higher than that "Mixed" half) as soon as I started sparring, completely glitchless AND on a laggy 4th generation iPod Touch instead of my usual 5g. I don't need to use a glitch, buddy, so stop insulting me on a forum for using it.

Part two: You have admitted to my friends that you only care about being the best, Thallen. Are you an abnormal unstable person?
And this "caring about your reputation on an online game" thing? Are you really insulting people for that? This from the same guy who writes lame statuses about his guild every day because he wants people to respect it as the greatest? The same guy who pretended to have a graal female visit them on his birthday when nobody is even entirely sure which gender this "female" is and even asked someone else to be "bunniee #2"? Why are you lining up all of these people to pretend to date them?
Enough questions though, just stop talking about people caring too much about graal when you've been on it for half of your life and nobody ever sees you offline for more than 3 hours.
And please stop insulting me, I'm sorry for showing no interest in joining Alumni. I was not going to join the guild of someone who sucked up to me on these lame forums just for a good member. Noticed you immediately changed from calling me the greatest iDevice to calling me some overrated loser the second your contact got the news to you that I wouldn't join. Look on the bright side though, your sucking up worked on Sarah! There is one "S-tier" (lol) sparrer for your guild, enjoy.

"fake friends" that made me laugh. As if you would know anything. And I do partially agree with the Qes part. I've grown to dislike him. But using the word "suck" is conpltely inaccurate. Just because Ruthless didn't consist of a bunch of people who have been playing graal for nearly a decade doesn't mean it sucked. Naturally your friends and yourself are above average sparrers is because graal has been your social life since you were still in high school.

Completely* before you get all butt-hurt.

you guys are so awkward

keep living out your obsessive fantasies about being good at a video game through chatting and making excuses
the rest of us will keep having fun, enjoying spars, winning, etc.

In other words he's left speechless and that's his best way of giving up. Gg

if you wanna claim victory over an argument on the internet because I scrolled past a boring wall of text that I can almost guarantee merited no attention and was only filled with anger and strange accusations, then feel free to do that
came into your post to explain things to you and help you understand why you're not good at this game and constantly fall back on making excuses, not to argue over who has the biggest ego over an internet forum

unlike you guys, taking a loss over the internet (even when undeserved) wouldn't bother me in the slightest
good luck

As soon as Comyt steps in and makes you look like an idiot you decide to shut your egotistical mouth. But whatever, screw this site. Deuces.

I pay very short attention to that little guy and I've made plenty of inferences about his attitude and general personality just based on observing him, and it can be summed up in a Wikipedia article that I recommend you read up on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferiority_complex

assuming you're Klay, I can slowly see that developing in you, Tae, Yurhomi, and practically everyone that closely associates themselves with that emotional weirdo
if you guys were half as good as you try to make yourselves out to be, you'd prove it actively instead of making whiny ass statuses that make you look feminine and self-conscious
sorry if that comes across as harsh, but someone has to be real with you

if you guys ever want to spar and get embarrassed in front of people (although I've already done that to Comyt and won't grant him a second chance) then we can do that, but I'm not really into arguing on a forum unless there's a purpose to it
you really ruined your own thread by bringing this awkward, defensive drama into it

just spar

lelelelel listen to you guys obsess over Graal. Graal doesn't take skill d00dez, if you want real skill play fut. Either Fut, pes, or 2k14...or better yet, play a sport in real life!


edit:

Graal takes minimal skill. I realized that when i invested a **** load of time in pking. My stats are average but i don't get anything out of it... I've spent more than what i have received. When I play ultimate team i get rewarded even when i lose.

pretend you didnt read it because it ruined you

or play madden. Madden is pretty cool.

dunno if you realize how strange you make yourself look by even posting this
you are more of a psychological mess than I ever imagined if you think any post on a forum is going to "ruin" anyone

what the hell is actually wrong with you
you need help or possibly a father figure

you both need help. u guys dated people online. fight me.

graal is your life, you need the help. youre never offline and you spend all your time afk on graal on this forum. now pce im not about to spend more than 20 minutes on a forum filled with egotistical hypocrites and losers looking for help.

So apparently you know my personality well enough to come to the conclusion that I'm an "emotional weirdo." I never knew you were that into me. I'm flattered. As for Ryan, you obviously know nothing about him. One thing he lacks is emotion. Anyone who has ever talked to him would second that. (Unless it's a female; apparently he shows emotion toward them)

In conclusion:

- you know absolutely nothing

- graal is horrible game

- ryan can make anyone shut up

- i am tired

if I were you, I'd probably beg a moderator to delete this thread because it's pretty embarrassing so far

I personally think sparring is a waste of time simply because of the absurd advantages that come with different connection speeds.

It can be fun - but its just a game - and not a very good one at that

ROFL...
the dude who loses a spar and then updates his status 6 times in 30 minutes talking to himself about it "lacks emotions"

man
this thread sucks
just like you guys in spar
quit making excuses and trying to tell people they can't have fun just because you guys can't enjoy the game

I'll hop on classic every once in a blue moon and the spar is usually full of afk people in the lobby. The spar rooms only have like 2-3 people maybe 5 max and they're all afk. There's usually like 1 room where the same two people are actually sparring. Its not during odd hours either.

I'm really inactive so it may be different.

lol you stalked his status for 30 minutes and counted how many times he changed it? issues man. u got some issues. Also it is ironic how you call him a physiological mess when you also obsess over him. you're as bad as him man.