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Player99 11-23-2011 08:16 AM

Staff Friends
 
Ok so I casually check the gang spar scores and was looking at some of the 'admin gangs' and I noticed something. People like Layerd, Reno, etc were in 5+ admin gangs and i presume are good friends with the staff. This obviously gives them a better chance of getting hired, etc. But how do people become friends with the staff when if you pm them your just wasting their time?

Siggy 11-23-2011 08:50 AM

know them before they were admin,
have a friend that can tell them who you are
ect.

LavaClaw 11-23-2011 08:58 AM

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Siggy 11-23-2011 09:23 AM

LOL!!!

Jatz 11-23-2011 10:50 AM

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Posted by Player99 (Post 35912)
Ok so I casually check the gang spar scores and was looking at some of the 'admin gangs' and I noticed something. People like Layerd, Reno, etc were in 5+ admin gangs and i presume are good friends with the staff. This obviously gives them a better chance of getting hired, etc. But how do people become friends with the staff when if you pm them your just wasting their time?

Here are some facts:

Reno is a friend of mine.
He does not own an iDevice.
I have known him for years.
I suggested for him to be hired back when i was a PR.
He was hired not because he is my friend, but because he is perfect for the job. all i did is vouch for him.
He has proven we made the right decision in hiring him and is probably one of the most hard working PR's we have these days. (Not that the others don't work hard.)

RenoDorvay 11-23-2011 11:02 AM

That's true, I've been staff on many servers and have been playing/working on Graal servers for a long time, I like to think I was hired for my skills as an FAQ/General customer-support guy.
I did actually apply for the job the same way the rest of the player-base did :)

Kane 11-23-2011 12:57 PM

Being friends with staff members does not mean they are 100% guaranteed to be staff members. DON'T WORK LIKE THAT, SON!

°Seeker99 11-23-2011 01:10 PM

I've known lots of staff members before they become admins, especially on iClassic. They all get tied up in their admin guilds and forgot about me. I knew Pimpsy about six months before he was an admin. He forgot about me around a week after being an admin. One person who didn't forget was Kondie :D we still play Graal together.

BboyEatsbacon 11-23-2011 01:17 PM

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Posted by Jatz (Post 35934)
Here are some facts:

Reno is a friend of mine.
He does not own an iDevice.
I have known him for years.
I suggested for him to be hired back when i was a PR.
He was hired not because he is my friend, but because he is perfect for the job. all i did is vouch for him.
He has proven we made the right decision in hiring him and is probably one of the most hard working PR's we have these days. (Not that the others don't work hard.)

Almost the exact same thing happened to me.
Jessie recommended me because she knew I was ready for this kind of a responsibility, not because we were "Friends."

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Posted by Player99 (Post 35912)
Ok so I casually check the gang spar scores and was looking at some of the 'admin gangs' and I noticed something. People like Layerd, Reno, etc were in 5+ admin gangs and i presume are good friends with the staff. This obviously gives them a better chance of getting hired, etc. But how do people become friends with the staff when if you pm them your just wasting their time?

You're*

I know there are more errors in this post, but I just wanted to point out what other people always nagged me about. =P

NCJohn 11-23-2011 02:02 PM

Player99, to prove that you will not get hired just because you're friends with staff, I was and still am friends with a lot of the staff (even before they were hired) and I wasn't hired :d Just work hard and help others.

Higbey 11-23-2011 02:18 PM

Yea. I doubt alot of them would be hired if they didn't have a staff member vouching for them. This is more of a problem on I classic, where staff claim that their friends just happen to be the most qualified for the job. Most staff guilds are like staff training camps. Just proving once more staff that have guilds should not be allowed to take part in the hiring process.

Also, if your the virtual bf/ gf of a staff member, chances are suddenly you happen to be the most qualified for a staff position!

Zero02 11-23-2011 03:15 PM

actually is very easy to be friends with admin. Admin is in fact just normal players

Dragu 11-23-2011 04:05 PM

Lol i love the fact how you think lay has a bigger chance, he applied often allready but did he get hired? NAY :)

Layerd 11-23-2011 04:10 PM

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Posted by Dragu (Post 35982)
Lol i love the fact how you think lay has a bigger chance, he applied often allready but did he get hired? NAY :)

Yes =( They donīt like Pandas. I know it.

Dragu 11-23-2011 04:15 PM

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Posted by Layerd (Post 35985)
Yes =( They donīt like Pandas. I know it.

They don't want that something bad happens <3

NCJohn 11-23-2011 04:56 PM

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Posted by Layerd (Post 35985)
Yes =( They donīt like Pandas. I know it.

If they don't like pandas, then why was bill hired? :o

DragonRider 11-23-2011 05:53 PM

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Posted by Herb_P2P (Post 35944)
Being friends with staff members does not mean they are 100% guaranteed to be staff members. DON'T WORK LIKE THAT, SON!

But they DO get a higher chance of being hired. At least it isn't as corrupt as Classic, where if staff's friends apply, try get hired.

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Posted by Higbey (Post 35963)
Yea. I doubt alot of them would be hired if they didn't have a staff member vouching for them. This is more of a problem on I classic, where staff claim that their friends just happen to be the most qualified for the job. Most staff guilds are like staff training camps. Just proving once more staff that have guilds should not be allowed to take part in the hiring process.

Also, if your the virtual bf/ gf of a staff member, chances are suddenly you happen to be the most qualified for a staff position!

Welcome to Classic. + rep.

Shaun 11-23-2011 06:19 PM

Well, I spend a lot of time with Ch4rM, and lately we hung out with Elly and EPiK. Don't act like a suck up, I think most admins hate that. Act like they are normal players, but with a limit. Like someone said, you gotta be friends with them before they are staff, or maybe they're really social admins.

Jatz 11-23-2011 07:32 PM

I Don't just back my friends, I back the people who i think are most capable of the job. The reason sometimes friends can get hired is because say, you've known them for years and have worked with hem before and know their capabilities better than trying to gauge it off of an application form.

I dont just hired friends. I hire people who i think are right for era. Even if i barely know someone, and i think they have promise, ill back them.

Fuzz 11-23-2011 08:00 PM

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Posted by Jatz (Post 36065)
I Don't just back my friends, I back the people who i think are most capable of the job. The reason sometimes friends can get hired is because say, you've known them for years and have worked with hem before and know their capabilities better than trying to gauge it off of an application form.

I dont just hired friends. I hire people who i think are right for era. Even if i barely know someone, and i think they have promise, ill back them.

Yeah, You might know them well and you might think they are up to job. It's better than just a ramdom person applying and you don't know what they are like in game.

Jatz 11-23-2011 09:18 PM

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Posted by Fuzz99 (Post 36076)
Yeah, You might know them well and you might think they are up to job. It's better than just a ramdom person applying and you don't know what they are like in game.

Exactly

Katniss 11-23-2011 11:24 PM

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Posted by LavaClaw (Post 35920)

This.

Cat612 11-24-2011 06:52 AM

I'm not saying anything about hirings being linked with being friends of staff, but to get to know staff members all you have to do is play the game, eventually a friend will be hired here or there, and you'll still know them from before. I don't see why it matters though.

Player99 11-24-2011 07:29 AM

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Posted by Jatz (Post 35934)
Here are some facts:

Reno is a friend of mine.
He does not own an iDevice.
I have known him for years.
I suggested for him to be hired back when i was a PR.
He was hired not because he is my friend, but because he is perfect for the job. all i did is vouch for him.
He has proven we made the right decision in hiring him and is probably one of the most hard working PR's we have these days. (Not that the others don't work hard.)

Ok, maybe not Reno i was just using him as an example

How can you get to become friends with an admin? Was what I was really wondering about

Higbey 11-24-2011 10:50 AM

Get in their guild.

Katniss 11-24-2011 02:23 PM

1. Find a Cake
2. Eat it
3. ???????
3. Profit!!!!
Just kidding.

Layerd 11-24-2011 02:58 PM

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Posted by KatGoesRawr (Post 36276)
1. Find a Cake
2. Eat it
3. ???????
3. Profit!!!!
Just kidding.

NOOOO!
1. Make a cake
2. Eat it
3. Make another cake
4. Give it to an admin

--> then you will be their best friend :)

Katniss 11-24-2011 05:36 PM

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Posted by Layerd (Post 36282)
NOOOO!
1. Make a cake
2. Eat it
3. Make another cake
4. Give it to an admin

--> then you will be their best friend :)

Haha + rep xD

Maikeru 11-24-2011 06:32 PM

So basically... F**k your experience and applications! Know an admin very well! Thats all you need to become one

Dragu 11-24-2011 08:39 PM

THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE!

Xertic 11-24-2011 09:34 PM

-.- your statement Player99, is false.

Katniss 11-24-2011 10:30 PM

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Posted by Xertic (Post 36375)
-.- your statement ,Player99, is false.

Fixed

Fuzz 11-25-2011 04:47 AM

Not everyone is going to be friends with an admin

°Seeker99 11-25-2011 05:16 AM

I was the first 99. just sayin'

Fuzz 11-25-2011 05:20 AM

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Posted by °Seeker99 (Post 36459)
I was the first 99. just sayin'

When did you join Graal Era? I've been here day 1 and my in game nickname is just Fuzz, I use 99 at the end to make the username more secure...

°Seeker99 11-25-2011 06:48 AM

I've used 99 on my name since 2009 (on other games) and I don't play iEra. Also I'm talking about the forums.

Higbey 11-25-2011 01:24 PM

Why do iera players have no idea about iclassic but iclassic players all know about iera?

Chaotic 11-25-2011 01:40 PM

Quote:

Posted by Layerd (Post 36282)
NOOOO!
1. Make a cake
2. Eat it
3. Make another cake
4. Give it to an admin

--> then you will be their best friend :)

Nope.

1. Make a cake
2. Eat it
3. Make a new cake
4. Eat it
5. Make more cake eat it
6. Make a new cake
7. Give one slice to a staff member
8. ???
9. CAKE PROFIT

Katniss 11-25-2011 03:03 PM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 36493)
Why do iera players have no idea about iclassic but iclassic players all know about iera?

Wrong. Most iEra players have played classic for a while before Era. Most Classic players played Era for about 1 minute in which they figured out they didn't have insta-revive or something like that, and quit.
Like me. I played Classic for 400 hours before I quit.

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Posted by Chaotic (Post 36495)
Nope.

1. Make a cake
2. Eat it
3. Make a new cake
4. Eat it
5. Make more cake eat it
6. Make a new cake
7. Give one slice to a staff member
8. ???
9. CAKE PROFIT

Lawl

Higbey 11-25-2011 03:34 PM

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Posted by Chaotic

Nope.

1. Make a cake
2. Eat it
3. Make a new cake
4. Eat it
5. Make more cake eat it
6. Make a new cake
7. Give one slice to a staff member
8. ???
9. CAKE PROFIT

Nope.
1. Make a cake
2. Eat it
3. Make a new cake
4. Eat it
5. Make more cake eat it
6. Make a new cake
7. Give one slice to a staff member
8. ???
9. DIABETES

GFX+ 11-27-2011 01:09 PM

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Posted by Zero02 (Post 35976)
actually is very easy to be friends with admin. Admin is in fact just normal players

Lmfao, please lie more for me :D
They maybe are normal people, but not normal "graalians", they got their powers and do their work as hard as they can. Graal need to ciculate and then admins don't have time to socialize with members.

How long time was it since a PR admin stood at a roof and answered people questions, like they did before? Yeah, some months ago.

Kondie 11-27-2011 06:10 PM

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Posted by Maikeru (Post 36327)
So basically... F**k your experience and applications! Know an admin very well! Thats all you need to become one

Can you even read? I've read so many posts by you on the forums, and all you seem to do is skim a section then pull a reply right out of your arse. Try reading all of the posts next time please.

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How long time was it since a PR admin stood at a roof and answered people questions, like they did before? Yeah, some months ago.
I saw someone do it last week. Also, I tend to answer questions when I get PMs so long as they aren't "I can have guns and EC?"

°Seeker99 11-27-2011 06:51 PM

Kondie is my friend. He is a staff. I am special.

Thunderstorm 11-28-2011 04:31 AM

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He is a staff? Wow as in this beast...You are truly special Seeker.

Street 11-28-2011 05:39 AM

Quote:

Posted by Chaotic (Post 36495)
Nope.

1. Make a cake
2. Eat it
3. Make a new cake
4. Eat it
5. Make more cake eat it
6. Make a new cake
7. Give one slice to a staff member
8. ???
9. CAKE PROFIT

The truth

1. Make a cake
2. Don't eat it.
3. Tell admin there is something wrong with cake.
4. Admin comes to look at cake.
5. Give cake to admin.
6. Friends.

Twinny 11-28-2011 06:12 AM

The amount of negativity! GOSH!

So! Personal opinion time! My thoughts! Not reflection of all staff of Classic! Take note that I do not hire people! I only say this because I know some particular broken records will use this (after they severely mutilate it and misquote) as justification for their twisted purposes!

SO! I have Graalian friends. A large chunk of them I would never recommend to become staff. However I've come to know a few very well. If a position came up that I think they were suitable for and i was in a position to recruit, I would likely recommend and why not? It's much easier to assess someones capabilities when you've known them for a long time rather than reading an email with 10 filled out answers. Should I just say, "Sorry Person-X! I already know you are perfect for this role but since I *do* know you are perfect for this role, I cannot hire you."

The way I see it, it makes sense that if staff happen to know someone who they think are suited for the role, they will be added. If they are unable to use this method, they can fall back on other recruitment methods. Note that one particular recruitment method involves going through literally thousands of applications!

Finally, if you aren't capable of being our friend, why would we want you in our family?

Katniss 11-28-2011 02:44 PM

Quote:

Posted by Street (Post 37768)
The truth

1. Make a cake
2. Don't eat it.
3. Tell admin there is something wrong with cake.
4. Admin comes to look at cake.
5. Give cake to admin.
6. Friends.

Rofl xD

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Posted by Twinny (Post 37779)
The amount of negativity! GOSH!

So! Personal opinion time! My thoughts! Not reflection of all staff of Classic! Take note that I do not hire people! I only say this because I know some particular broken records will use this (after they severely mutilate it and misquote) as justification for their twisted purposes!

SO! I have Graalian friends. A large chunk of them I would never recommend to become staff. However I've come to know a few very well. If a position came up that I think they were suitable for and i was in a position to recruit, I would likely recommend and why not? It's much easier to assess someones capabilities when you've known them for a long time rather than reading an email with 10 filled out answers. Should I just say, "Sorry Person-X! I already know you are perfect for this role but since I *do* know you are perfect for this role, I cannot hire you."

The way I see it, it makes sense that if staff happen to know someone who they think are suited for the role, they will be added. If they are unable to use this method, they can fall back on other recruitment methods. Note that one particular recruitment method involves going through literally thousands of applications!

Finally, if you aren't capable of being our friend, why would we want you in our family?

This is actually quite true. You have about summed it up.
Thanks Twinny

Dragu 11-28-2011 05:51 PM

Quote:

Posted by Twinny (Post 37779)
The amount of negativity! GOSH!

So! Personal opinion time! My thoughts! Not reflection of all staff of Classic! Take note that I do not hire people! I only say this because I know some particular broken records will use this (after they severely mutilate it and misquote) as justification for their twisted purposes!

SO! I have Graalian friends. A large chunk of them I would never recommend to become staff. However I've come to know a few very well. If a position came up that I think they were suitable for and i was in a position to recruit, I would likely recommend and why not? It's much easier to assess someones capabilities when you've known them for a long time rather than reading an email with 10 filled out answers. Should I just say, "Sorry Person-X! I already know you are perfect for this role but since I *do* know you are perfect for this role, I cannot hire you."

The way I see it, it makes sense that if staff happen to know someone who they think are suited for the role, they will be added. If they are unable to use this method, they can fall back on other recruitment methods. Note that one particular recruitment method involves going through literally thousands of applications!

Finally, if you aren't capable of being our friend, why would we want you in our family?

Dear Twinny,
Here you go :3http://blog.integrate.com/wp-content...11/10/taco.png

Floyd Heart* 01-04-2012 03:51 PM

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Posted by Dragu (Post 37892)

that taco looks nasty Dx

Njc2823 01-04-2012 07:37 PM

lol i like when i see something like this
"OMG NO WAYYYYY RENO IS TALKING TO ME YESSSSSSS"


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