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Ryan 08-08-2013 09:06 AM

Zone is on the Uprise
 
Zone has been released for nearly 9 months now and since then its made a rapid improvement since its release. The staff countlessly provide updates with actual content such as ways to make money, shops and weapons. And out of all the Graal servers they listen to their players the most. The community is also a nice place, whenever I'm walking around I always see a face I know. I remember there was one point in the game where less than 20 people and now at that same point there are well over 100. That's an improvement in my eyes. It is only that people had a bad first impression of this game that they aren't coming back though but I reckon it won't be long until iZone is competing side by side with all the other Graal servers and I can't wait for that.

Just a little thing about my opinion on Zone :)

-Ryan

Era News 08-08-2013 09:19 AM

100 player count is crap compared to iEra in its 9th month. I think zone was a fail.

Skill 08-08-2013 09:21 AM

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Posted by Era News (Post 397637)
100 player count is crap compared to iEra in its 9th month. I think zone was a fail.

I'd say it has potential. I think it just needs something unique and very fun to set it apart from Era. The missions were an excellent concept, but I feel like they are not in depth enough to be considered a unique gameplay feature. They need to be less about simply repeating a path(Ie save 10 people destroy 3 generators), and more of an actual story/challenge. For example, you may break into some enemies base, obtain secret information, then fight your way out. Basically, the missions need more effort put into them than simple repeating a task with a few guild members. Oh, and the level penalty on missions need to be taken out. There's no reason to penalize people for doing old missions, it's not like your level gives you any real advantage. There's a reason some MMO's do this(IE level 20 could 1 shot all level 10 content), but in Zone this isn't the case. It's just power creeping and abandoning old content.

Sir 08-08-2013 09:25 AM

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Posted by Era News (Post 397637)
100 player count is crap compared to iEra in its 9th month. I think zone was a fail.

This is not a very fair comparison. iEra did not have 2 senior servers to compete with. When iEra came out they stay there because they liked guns or the modern feel, etc. that iClassic could not offer. Other iPhone servers will have trouble getting a large player count because players will be strung out across all servers, with barely any new comers. :(

kenthefruit 08-08-2013 10:00 AM

More like 180-210 everyday consistently.

Maxy 08-08-2013 10:37 AM

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Posted by TwistedWizard (Post 397643)
More like 180-210 everyday consistently.

Sometimes more at peak hours, the playercount is increasing

Kiwi 08-08-2013 11:55 AM

I don't see why this is news. The iZone staff said about 8 months ago that it was going to shoot up really soon!

AnarchyGraal 08-08-2013 12:23 PM

Correction. Its almost 8 months not nine.
January 17th: 1st month
Feb. 17th: 2nd month
March. 17th: 3rd month
April 17th: 4th month
May 17th: 5th month
June 17th: 6th month
July 17th: 7th month
Today: August 8th
August 17th: 8th month

Tashkin 08-08-2013 01:30 PM

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Posted by Kiwi (Post 397665)
I don't see why this is news. The iZone staff said about 8 months ago that it was going to shoot up really soon!

This is new because the first four months the server made no progress at all. The staff team has been working very hard lately and a lot of changes have been made.

Isaac 08-08-2013 01:30 PM

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Posted by Kiwi (Post 397665)
I don't see why this is news. The iZone staff said about 8 months ago that it was going to shoot up really soon!

Haha I see what you did there.


If iZone continues copying iEra's every feature, iZone will become the server that people go to when they are sick of iEra's players.

iEra 2.0

PumaD 08-08-2013 02:17 PM

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Posted by Tashkin (Post 397676)
This is new because the first four months the server made no progress at all.

Totally, that's why it had about 300-350 players once even before the freeapp was released.

Xenthic 08-08-2013 02:34 PM

Even though zone isn't the server I play on I have to say the staff team are hardworking and very helpful :)

Admiral 08-08-2013 02:45 PM

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Posted by PumaD (Post 397680)
Totally, that's why it had about 300-350 players once even before the freeapp was released.

Well yeah, it was a new app so it was like a shiny new toy to players. The same thing will likely happen to Delt, it'll have it's highest playercount on the first few months of release and then slowly decrease due to players going back to iClassic or iEra.

AnarchyGraal 08-08-2013 02:56 PM

Zone would have more players if they copied me :(
Play Classic for a few months and hate it since it is so boring.
Play Era for a year until you get bored of it.
Play Zone and never get bored of it.
Then in the future: (like 10 years from now)
Play Era like once a month and play the newly released game: Delteria that took forever just to release on iOS and Zone.

Oh and the player count would be much higher if Zone was released before Era/ when Classic died.

Cookie Xanadu 08-08-2013 04:10 PM

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Posted by Era News (Post 397637)
100 player count is crap compared to iEra in its 9th month. I think zone was a fail.

iEra was a carbon copy of Era PC, so it more or less had a base.. All that was left was to customize it. iZone however, was made from scratch. Or that's what I've heard anyways.

Jester Lapse 08-08-2013 06:58 PM

when iZone stops taking iEra content, reskining it, uploading it and calling it "new" then it will get somewhere. I will give props to Tashkin however, he's doing a great job considering what he was left with after Matt.

The Doctor 08-08-2013 07:11 PM

I've got to say, Tashkin is a great manager. Pretty sure Zone willdo just fine.

Cigam 08-08-2013 08:21 PM

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Posted by The Doctor (Post 397734)
I've got to say, Tashkin is a great manager. Pretty sure Zone willdo just fine.

This.

Johnaudi 08-08-2013 08:25 PM

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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 397703)

iEra was a carbon copy of Era PC, so it more or less had a base.. All that was left was to customize it. iZone however, was made from scratch. Or that's what I've heard anyways.

No it's not made from the scratch...?

Nyte* 08-08-2013 08:28 PM

It's been a fun 8 months for me, I'm sure it will continue!

Isaac 08-08-2013 08:45 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 397732)
when iZone stops taking iEra content, reskining it, uploading it and calling it "new" then it will get somewhere. I will give props to Tashkin however, he's doing a great job considering what he was left with after Matt.

^^^

AnarchyGraal 08-08-2013 08:54 PM

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Posted by Nyte* (Post 397759)
It's been a fun 8 months for me, I'm sure it will continue!

It has also been a fun 8 months for me. I know as long as the player count isn't 20, Zone will survive.

kenthefruit 08-08-2013 09:35 PM

It's funny, because all these things Zone is 'taking' from Era aren't entitled to Era.

Ex: Era isn't the ONLY server that gets to have an EC Shop, they may have been the first to have such a thing, but they do not own the idea. It can be remade and fixed around to be original on a different server.

Kiwi 08-08-2013 09:39 PM

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Posted by Tashkin (Post 397676)
This is new because the first four months the server made no progress at all. The staff team has been working very hard lately and a lot of changes have been made.

I was joking. I don't doubt that you've been working hard.

Platinum 08-08-2013 09:41 PM

It was fun when the player count was 40. Showdown was easy, basing was relatively easy if you could get 5 other people with you, events were easier than now, parts were more common.

I guess with more players the content we have isn't enough to hold them all. Like, there are only so many bases, ships to repair, broken parts on the ground, events being held, and lotteries.

AnarchyGraal 08-08-2013 10:00 PM

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Posted by TwistedWizard (Post 397777)
It's funny, because all these things Zone is 'taking' from Era aren't entitled to Era.

Ex: Era isn't the ONLY server that gets to have an EC Shop, they may have been the first to have such a thing, but they do not own the idea. It can be remade and fixed around to be original on a different server.

^this is the truth. Just because Era has it doesn't mean a thing. Everything Zone has that is also on Era doesn't mean a thing. Think about it, at least 1000 other games that have a shop that you use rewards to purchase cool games are out in the world so gtfo.

Jester Lapse 08-08-2013 10:12 PM

Actually, I was more hinting at the fact of re-attracting the players that passed zone off as an iEra reskin, which, as you add more and more of iEra's old content, it essentially is an iEra reskin. Also, a lot of the events themselves are just clones of iEra's along with the "new" jobs.
The one thing I liked about iZone were the pets and the bomb spar as I could not partake in those activities on any other iServer. The content that is new and unique to the server is what will end up attracting a new audience or even pull some players away from iEra. Why switch from iEra to iZone when it's essentially the same and iEra is developed further?

Again, I state Tashkin is doing his best with the hole Matt gave him, and he's doing great. But new content that cannot be found on another server is what attracts new players. So Anarchy, I send your "gtfo" back at you.

AnarchyGraal 08-08-2013 10:27 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 397794)
Actually, I was more hinting at the fact of re-attracting the players that passed zone off as an iEra reskin, which, as you add more and more of iEra's old content, it essentially is an iEra reskin. Also, a lot of the events themselves are just clones of iEra's along with the "new" jobs.
The one thing I liked about iZone were the pets and the bomb spar as I could not partake in those activities on any other iServer. The content that is new and unique to the server is what will end up attracting a new audience or even pull some players away from iEra. Why switch from iEra to iZone when it's essentially the same and iEra is developed further?

Again, I state Tashkin is doing his best with the hole Matt gave him, and he's doing great. But new content that cannot be found on another server is what attracts new players. So Anarchy, I send your "gtfo" back at you.

Though I did read your previous post, I was trying to say that people should stop saying that Zone copied a lot from Era (which some has been, well I guess the word 'some' is exaggerating) I mean most things in Era can be seen in tens of thousands of other games so there is no point in saying "Zone copied from Era"

MrSimons 08-08-2013 10:50 PM

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Posted by AnarchyGraal (Post 397798)
Though I did read your previous post, I was trying to say that people should stop saying that Zone copied a lot from Era (which some has been, well I guess the word 'some' is exaggerating) I mean most things in Era can be seen in tens of thousands of other games so there is no point in saying "Zone copied from Era"

Tbh a lot of systems zone has are directly from era, just changed to fit the theme; ship repairs, metal detecting, dolls, events, mining. Jester is right on this one, I dont think he is really hating on zone or saying zone is just ripping content from era, so you can stop being so defensive. :)

PumaD 08-08-2013 11:05 PM

Zone didn't copy iEra, they just copied their scripts and sometimes modified them. Take it the way you want, offended or not but iZone clearly lacks originality.

We could draw a list of what was already on another server PLUS who made the scripts, either Zone or the others. You would shut the **** up after.

The only thing I like about iZone are the robots, showdown and bomb spar because it is the most attracting reason to play it (otherwise than events).

kenthefruit 08-08-2013 11:39 PM

I agree, Zone obviously has content Era has, but you can't blame them. Era has been around much longer, therefore they've basically taken and implemented ideas onto the server. Then Zone came around, with original ideas, and ideas from Era. I'm saying Zone should keep what they've already implemented from Era and change it around so it's original for the server.

Bot Events, found on both Era and Zone. Zone shouldn't use the exact scripting Era does, they should change it, make it original and still using the Futuristic Space Theme.

Events, almost exactly the same events as Era. Chance. Same look different tile set. SEPERATE yourself from Era's. Classic has a different looking, and working Chance. Why doesn't Zone? Although, I do enjoy their current Event House. Everyone can join without having to 'scope' or opening the door for 50. And Classic has event doors they place and give a hint on where to find it.

Skill 08-09-2013 03:32 AM

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Posted by TwistedWizard (Post 397813)
I agree, Zone obviously has content Era has, but you can't blame them. Era has been around much longer, therefore they've basically taken and implemented ideas onto the server. Then Zone came around, with original ideas, and ideas from Era. I'm saying Zone should keep what they've already implemented from Era and change it around so it's original for the server.

Bot Events, found on both Era and Zone. Zone shouldn't use the exact scripting Era does, they should change it, make it original and still using the Futuristic Space Theme.

Events, almost exactly the same events as Era. Chance. Same look different tile set. SEPERATE yourself from Era's. Classic has a different looking, and working Chance. Why doesn't Zone? Although, I do enjoy their current Event House. Everyone can join without having to 'scope' or opening the door for 50. And Classic has event doors they place and give a hint on where to find it.

What Zone needs is to improve upon the things that make it better than Era and Classic. Missions are an amazing idea, but all of them are boring and repetitive. If the missions on Zone were better, I could see the playercount being well over 1000.

Tunder 08-09-2013 03:56 AM

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Posted by Skill (Post 397881)
What Zone needs is to improve upon the things that make it better than Era and Classic. Missions are an amazing idea, but all of them are boring and repetitive. If the missions on Zone were better, I could see the playercount being well over 1000.

This is the reason I sort of dislike ship repair. I think it was a great idea to give players a faster method of earning graalats, but I don't think it was right to make a game system as interesting as missions obsolete in order to do so. Why would anyone go through the effort now to mine in and complete missions when they can earn money so much faster and easier by doing a repetitive menial task like ship repair?

They should expand upon missions but also increase the amount of graalats you get from them. Remove the counter-intuitive system which lowers the amounts of graalats player get from missions as they level up as well - all this does is make people stop doing them. This will help bring missions back up to central feature status of Zone as opposed to an obsolete novelty people do a few time before they learn they can make money faster in other ways.

doodleman171 08-09-2013 04:01 AM

*cough*
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Posted by TwistedWizard (Post 396387)
Zone has teleporters, Era gets teleporters.
Zone has flamethrower, Era gets flamethrower.


Jester Lapse 08-09-2013 04:02 AM

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Posted by doodleman171 (Post 397888)
*cough*

era had both of those like 2 years ago lolol

Bleck3v3 08-09-2013 04:44 AM

is era even staying on its own theme o.o?

kenthefruit 08-09-2013 06:22 AM

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Posted by Bleck3v3 (Post 397897)
is era even staying on its own theme o.o?

Look at Classic. Supposed to be medieval and ancient, yet we have TVs? Along with other stuff on Classic, it doesn't stay to the theme.

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Posted by doodleman171 (Post 397888)
*cough*

Lol.

Era News 08-09-2013 08:03 AM

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Posted by Sir (Post 397640)
This is not a very fair comparison. iEra did not have 2 senior servers to compete with. When iEra came out they stay there because they liked guns or the modern feel, etc. that iClassic could not offer. Other iPhone servers will have trouble getting a large player count because players will be strung out across all servers, with barely any new comers. :(


I can predict delteria will do better then zone. Zone is the exact same as era.

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Posted by TwistedWizard (Post 397777)
It's funny, because all these things Zone is 'taking' from Era aren't entitled to Era. Ex: Era isn't the ONLY server that gets to have an EC Shop, they may have been the first to have such a thing, but they do not own the idea. It can be remade and fixed around to be original on a different server.


Jester wasn't talking about that... Many servers have an EC shop. Jester was talking about stealing stuff and reskining it to suit zones feel.

Platinum 08-09-2013 09:02 AM

@allpeoplewhoarebasicallysayingthatZone is a reskin of era.

Have you guys considered that maybe era has most of the things someone can come up with? I mean, they're both shooters. It's like comparing Halo to Battlefield or COD. Just because Battlefield has a machine gun doesn't mean Halo can't use one too. Btw, it's kind of hard to come up with stuff IMO. I mean, 'the future' hasn't even began yet, at least Era and Classic have something to base themselves on.
And don't give me the "They can use their imagination!" crap. Aside from the plot line, legit every Sci-Fi movie has the same weapons/transportation/aliens/whatever else. If you're hating on Zone, you may as well hate on Star Wars.

Jester Lapse 08-09-2013 09:04 AM

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Posted by Platinum (Post 397967)
@allpeoplewhoarebasicallysayingthatZone is a reskin of era.

Have you guys considered that maybe era has most of the things someone can come up with? I mean, they're both shooters. It's like comparing Halo to Battlefield or COD. Just because Battlefield has a machine gun doesn't mean Halo can't use one too. Btw, it's kind of hard to come up with stuff IMO. I mean, 'the future' hasn't even began yet, at least Era and Classic have something to base themselves on.
And don't give me the "They can use their imagination!" crap. Aside from the plot line, legit every Sci-Fi movie has the same weapons/transportation/aliens/whatever else. If you're hating on Zone, you may as well hate on Star Wars.

Dumbest thing I read all week.

Kiwi 08-09-2013 10:10 AM

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Posted by Platinum (Post 397967)
If you're hating on Zone, you may as well hate on Star Wars.

Please don't put a Graal server on the same level as Star Wars.

Tashkin 08-09-2013 10:13 AM

I wanted to be nice and keep this thread going, but it has gone a little to far. Flaming others is not allowed.

Closed.


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