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fUnK 08-01-2013 08:01 PM

Spar and Pk Hats
 
I think this would be a good idea. It helps players become more motivated to participate in the pvps of zone, and it can be a reward for players who have exceeded in spar wins and player kills.

R o g u e 08-01-2013 08:04 PM

I totally agree with this since Era made it were you can now get the Vector for 100k kills or 15k spar wins.

Also last time I heard logic said something about a pk hat?How manys kills were need for it.

Nyte* 08-01-2013 08:05 PM

Yes honestly, players who have no pvp skills and resort to go hardcore on events get a crap ton of hats. While the players that are skilled in the main part of the game have no reward, the players that resort to the mini games within the game get rewarded like wtf? I have 1 spar hat from far earlier in the servers life but they haven't given anything out since the 2k spar hat & like 2 3k spar hats.

AnarchyGraal 08-01-2013 08:08 PM

Though there were already hats for this, it wasn't available to everyone, just a limited amount of people. It'd be awesome if they made new hats and had them available to everyone.

Personally I think there should be a hat for 1k, 2k, 5k, 10k, and 20k kills and a hat for 100 spar wins, 500 spar wins, 1k spar wins, 2k spar wins, and 5k spar wins.

Tunder 08-01-2013 11:53 PM

I think they make sense. They give players incentive for continuing to play and get better and also act as a goal for sparring/pking which doesn't really have a goal or end in itself. The only people who would be opposed to the idea are people who don't spar or pk and just don't want the hats out of spite or something.

Bleck3v3 08-02-2013 12:18 AM

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Posted by AnarchyGraal (Post 395031)
Though there were already hats for this, it wasn't available to everyone, just a limited amount of people. It'd be awesome if they made new hats and had them available to everyone.

Personally I think there should be a hat for 1k, 2k, 5k, 10k, and 20k kills and a hat for 100 spar wins, 500 spar wins, 1k spar wins, 2k spar wins, and 5k spar wins.

woah that's a bit too much your asking for let's keep it short and reasonable :P

AnarchyGraal 08-02-2013 12:31 AM

Lol short and reasonable from Stefan: No hats.

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Posted by Tunder (Post 395122)
I think they make sense. They give players incentive for continuing to play and get better and also act as a goal for sparring/pking which doesn't really have a goal or end in itself. The only people who would be opposed to the idea are people who don't spar or pk and just don't want the hats out of spite or something.

Lazy people would also oppose of this idea.

Mike18 08-02-2013 01:44 AM

I think bomb spar should be included with this. Im a huge bomb spar player, and i always feel that people have forgotten about it. Adding hats as prizes for getting a lot of wins might help fill up the lobbies.

kenthefruit 08-02-2013 03:41 AM

Same hat, but different ways of getting it.

1st Hat
Spar: 30k wins
PK: 40k kills
Bomb Spar: 3k wins

2nd Hat
Spar: 50k wins
PK: 75k kills
Bomb Spar: 5k wins

3rd Hat
Spar: 75k wins
PK: 100k
Bomb Spar: 7k

4th Hat
Spar: 100k wins
PK: 150k
Bomb Spar: 10k

5th Hat
Spar 200k
PK: 200k
Bomb Spar: 50k

fUnK 08-02-2013 04:00 AM

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Posted by TwistedWizard (Post 395198)
Same hat, but different ways of getting it.

1st Hat
Spar: 30k wins
PK: 40k kills
Bomb Spar: 3k wins

2nd Hat
Spar: 50k wins
PK: 75k kills
Bomb Spar: 5k wins

3rd Hat
Spar: 75k wins
PK: 100k
Bomb Spar: 7k

4th Hat
Spar: 100k wins
PK: 150k
Bomb Spar: 10k

5th Hat
Spar 200k
PK: 200k
Bomb Spar: 50k

How about bomb spar 5k (because its less popular) and 10k. Then spar 10k, 15k, 30k. And pk 50k, 100k, 500k.

kenthefruit 08-02-2013 06:23 AM

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Posted by fUnK (Post 395208)
How about bomb spar 5k (because its less popular) and 10k. Then spar 10k, 15k, 30k. And pk 50k, 100k, 500k.

Those pks are way too high, and we should look more at Era's wins, theirs seem reasonable.

iHot 08-02-2013 07:39 AM

Lol man Zone has a minuscule Playercount. We need then1st hat to be like 2k kills not 200k

Ryan 08-02-2013 07:50 AM

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Posted by iHot (Post 395269)
Lol man Zone has a minuscule Playercount. We need then1st hat to be like 2k kills not 200k

^^^^

Nyte* 08-02-2013 08:25 AM

Quote:

Posted by iHot (Post 395269)
Lol man Zone has a minuscule Playercount. We need then1st hat to be like 2k kills not 200k

Tf you can get 2k in like half a week

Shiz 08-02-2013 10:58 AM

I'll propose this idea to Tashkin AFTER we get done with our current project. Thanks :)

iMask 08-02-2013 05:43 PM

First hat for spar should be at 1k, not 30k

Aero* 08-02-2013 06:30 PM

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Posted by iMask (Post 395446)
First hat for spar should be at 1k, not 30k

Then everyone would have it x-x. Make it a reasonable 10k spar wins which you need to dedicate time to get it. If itwas 1k everyone would spar to 1k and stop.

Rotaruc 08-02-2013 10:13 PM

it was at 1k. only about 6 people got it though.
<---- the mask is right there

Shiz 08-02-2013 11:13 PM

Quote:

Posted by Aero* (Post 395462)
Then everyone would have it x-x. Make it a reasonable 10k spar wins which you need to dedicate time to get it. If itwas 1k everyone would spar to 1k and stop.

I agree. Or we could go 8.5k 15k then 20k.

R o g u e 08-02-2013 11:53 PM

For god sake keep it the same 2000 spar wins.Damn y'all make it difficult to spar.I have two facts you have to remember.One we have a player count of 200 max so getting 8k spar wins will takes forever.And two no one in Zone even got that close to 8000 wins the highest someone got right now is Tunder and all he got is 6000 wins.
And the max wins he can get in a day is maybe 150 and that's if he in the room the whole day and wins every match!Damn stop trying to
make things difficult this isn't era.

Shiz 08-02-2013 11:59 PM

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Posted by ReBorn (Post 395579)
For god sake keep it the same 2000 spar wins.Damn y'all make it difficult to spar.I have two facts you have to remember.One we have a player count of 200 max so getting 8k spar wins will takes forever.And two no one in Zone even got that close to 8000 wins the highest someone got right now is Tunder and all he got is 6000 wins.
And the max wins he can get in a day is maybe 150 and that's if he in the room the whole day and wins every match!Damn stop trying to
make things difficult this isn't era.

8,000 wins is 2,000 wins taken off from Era's 10,000 win communicator hat. Plus, spar hats are not supposed to be easy to get. Which means it won't be at a comfortable amount to get to. Supposed to be challenging, takes time and skill to get it. Tunder actually likes sparring and he may be the first to actually receive a hat if they're put in because he works hard. Like you said, he gets 150 wins a day. Well that also means he has been working hard and hasn't complained yet.

Billy 08-03-2013 12:57 AM

Make the 5k hat the regular gasmask from panthers but gold.

fUnK 08-03-2013 01:50 AM

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Posted by Billy (Post 395597)
Make the 5k hat the regular gasmask from panthers but gold.

Post the hat

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Posted by ReBorn (Post 395579)
For god sake keep it the same 2000 spar wins.Damn y'all make it difficult to spar.I have two facts you have to remember.One we have a player count of 200 max so getting 8k spar wins will takes forever.And two no one in Zone even got that close to 8000 wins the highest someone got right now is Tunder and all he got is 6000 wins.
And the max wins he can get in a day is maybe 150 and that's if he in the room the whole day and wins every match!Damn stop trying to
make things difficult this isn't era.

It's not supposed to be easy getting 10k spar wins. It should be 5k, 10k, 20k.

Nyte* 08-03-2013 02:08 AM

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Posted by ReBorn (Post 395579)
For god sake keep it the same 2000 spar wins.Damn y'all make it difficult to spar.I have two facts you have to remember.One we have a player count of 200 max so getting 8k spar wins will takes forever.And two no one in Zone even got that close to 8000 wins the highest someone got right now is Tunder and all he got is 6000 wins.
And the max wins he can get in a day is maybe 150 and that's if he in the room the whole day and wins every match!Damn stop trying to
make things difficult this isn't era.

There's already 4 players with 5k and it took funk like 1 1/2 weeks to go from 3k to 4k

fUnK 08-03-2013 02:24 AM

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Posted by Nyte* (Post 395613)
There's already 4 players with 5k and it took funk like 1 1/2 weeks to go from 3k to 4k

You makin it sound like I have no life -_- it's not that hard. 100 spars a day and that's it. Not like I do anything else on graal.

Lord* 08-03-2013 02:35 AM

Pshaaaw i got close to 870 wins in one day, but that was completely no life as I had a cold

R o g u e 08-03-2013 02:44 AM

But you have to remember some people aren't like Funk or Tunder getting to 8000 spar wins just for a hat sound like it not worth it with the player count.The average spar wins I get a day is like 30-40.You have to remember about other people because it's not just that simple.So I'm done stating my opinion,all I can say is that if they make the first hat 8000 spar wins then the player count will drop even lower.

Also ShizGodsu I know you are going to say that getting a spar mask is a road of hard work but **** from what you saying it make me not even want to spar......

fUnK 08-03-2013 03:09 AM

Quote:

Posted by ReBorn (Post 395630)
But you have to remember some people aren't like Funk or Tunder getting to 8000 spar wins just for a hat sound like it not worth it with the player count.The average spar wins I get a day is like 30-40.You have to remember about other people because it's not just that simple.So I'm done stating my opinion,all I can say is that if they make the first hat 8000 spar wins then the player count will drop even lower.

Also ShizGodsu I know you are going to say that getting a spar mask is a road of hard work but **** from what you saying it make me not even want to spar......

I wish I could pixel slap you. How will the player count drop because they are awarding players. That makes no sense. Its either 8k hat or nothing at all, I doubt anyone would be mad about this, except you. It doesn't matter how many people spar it's a goal, and the goal shouldn't be as low as 1k so players like you who'd rather work for an event hat than a spar hat can get both. Sheesh

R o g u e 08-03-2013 04:57 AM

Find make it 8000.......Who else feels like playing Era?

Nyte* 08-03-2013 05:03 AM

Quote:

Posted by ReBorn (Post 395630)
But you have to remember some people aren't like Funk or Tunder getting to 8000 spar wins just for a hat sound like it not worth it with the player count.The average spar wins I get a day is like 30-40.You have to remember about other people because it's not just that simple.So I'm done stating my opinion,all I can say is that if they make the first hat 8000 spar wins then the player count will drop even lower.

Also ShizGodsu I know you are going to say that getting a spar mask is a road of hard work but **** from what you saying it make me not even want to spar......

You're forgetting the fact that it's for those "other people" if they don't want to put the time in then the hat isn't for them. NOT EVERY SINGLE PERSON IS SUPPSOED TO GET IT.

kenthefruit 08-03-2013 05:06 AM

God why do you guys complain so much? Sparring and PK hats are supposed to be challenging to get. 10k is a great spot to get a hat, 8k is not.

DraGun 08-03-2013 07:15 AM

I actually made a few spar hats already. I made one for 20k which is gold, the one I'm wearing on my staff account. If you've seen the white spar communicator I had on earlier, there is a chance that I'll make it either a pk reward or spar (still not sure). The only problem is having it approved by Tashkin.

PS The mask you see on my main account; if this thing is approved, I'll edit a few things and make a better version of it.

kenthefruit 08-03-2013 07:17 AM

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Posted by DraGun (Post 395740)
I actually made a few spar hats already. I made one for 20k which is gold, the one I'm wearing on my staff account. If you've seen the white spar communicator I had on earlier I might make that either a pk reward or spar (still not sure). The only problem is having it approved by Tashkin.

PS The mask you see on my main account, if this thing is approved I'll edit a few things and make a better version of it.

No, the hats should be retrievable by PK and Spar.

R o g u e 08-03-2013 10:07 AM

Awwww I want to be the only one in Zone with a spar communicator.

Shiz 08-03-2013 10:54 AM

Quote:

Posted by ReBorn (Post 395630)
But you have to remember some people aren't like Funk or Tunder getting to 8000 spar wins just for a hat sound like it not worth it with the player count.The average spar wins I get a day is like 30-40.You have to remember about other people because it's not just that simple.So I'm done stating my opinion,all I can say is that if they make the first hat 8000 spar wins then the player count will drop even lower.

Also ShizGodsu I know you are going to say that getting a spar mask is a road of hard work but **** from what you saying it make me not even want to spar......

Point is, it's a spar mask. It's not supposed to be easy to get. The ones that actually do get it would have worked hard, not complained, and were patient.

There's two types of people: The lazy ones who attempt to get the hat. And the ones who actually spar everyday, get better, and are almost unbeatable, which results in the hat.

I guess when I have free time I'll try to hook up some hats and get a level for this. Meh.

R o g u e 08-03-2013 07:44 PM

For god sake why are y'all still quoting what I said x.x.Real my next post.

Also I do spar everyday.You can ask Funk,Tunder,mostly anyone I'm at the Gun Spar 24/7 I barely base now.

Platinum 08-03-2013 11:58 PM

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Posted by Nyte* (Post 395291)
Tf you can get 2k in like half a week

I got 1k in half a year O_o

Aero* 08-04-2013 03:03 AM

10k spar wins hat, 20k spar wins hat, 100k pks hat.
Simple. No less. Maybe more

Platinum 08-04-2013 05:12 AM

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Posted by Aero* (Post 396100)
10k spar wins hat, 20k spar wins hat, 100k pks hat.
Simple. No less. Maybe more

50k spar wins and 100k pks. Spar is almost the same as pk.

Aaron 08-04-2013 08:49 AM

Y'all want hats.

Ozzy_Magus 08-04-2013 09:04 AM

Lmfaao.
You guys gotta consider the low playercount, aswell remove the good sparrers (If the server has 200 players max regulary) like 30 of them will be struggling to get their wins up for the hats. Half of the players don't spar, makes like 70 players left to fight plus 30 good players.

Imo for sparring;

2k-5k-10k-15k-20k etc...
You can't just start at 10k? Rofl, tunder has 6k...
You have to base this off the players that have x wins at the moment, else your stuff has no logic

For pking.(You have to consider how many pk's players already have.
5k-10k-20k-30k-50k-100k

Look at the zone players, then make something like this.
#1 Pker has 30k kills, tf you going to make ONE pk hat, at 100k, um ? Logic?

MonicaLewinsky 08-04-2013 04:25 PM

Spar=2k-5k-10k-20k-50k
Pk=5k-10k-20k-40k-80k
BombSpar=1k-3k-8k-10k-15k

R o g u e 08-04-2013 04:58 PM

I agree with Hayze and Ozzy!

kenthefruit 08-04-2013 06:10 PM

Spar: 10k, 30k, 50k
PK: 50k, 100k, 150k
Bomb: 5k, 10k, 15k

reyalS 08-04-2013 06:30 PM

meh

Alex Damian 08-04-2013 08:48 PM

Spar: 1,2,3
Kills:5,10,15
Bomb: 16,17,18

Aero* 08-05-2013 02:28 AM

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Posted by Ozzy_Magus (Post 396206)
Lmfaao.
You guys gotta consider the low playercount, aswell remove the good sparrers (If the server has 200 players max regulary) like 30 of them will be struggling to get their wins up for the hats. Half of the players don't spar, makes like 70 players left to fight plus 30 good players.

Imo for sparring;

2k-5k-10k-15k-20k etc...
You can't just start at 10k? Rofl, tunder has 6k...
You have to base this off the players that have x wins at the moment, else your stuff has no logic

For pking.(You have to consider how many pk's players already have.
5k-10k-20k-30k-50k-100k

Look at the zone players, then make something like this.
#1 Pker has 30k kills, tf you going to make ONE pk hat, at 100k, um ? Logic?

40k* ^.^

fUnK 08-05-2013 03:16 AM

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Posted by Hayze (Post 396291)
Spar=2k-5k-10k-20k-50k
Pk=5k-10k-20k-40k-80k
BombSpar=1k-3k-8k-10k-15k

That's alot of hats man. 5k 10k 20k for spar.
Pk 50k 100k. They're supposed to be achievement hats. I don't think 5k pk's and 2k spars is much of an achievement. And plus that's too many god damn hats. The max hats should be 3 for each category and they shouldn't be so low and close to each other.

DraGun 08-05-2013 03:50 AM

Spar rewards: 10k, 15k, 20k
Pk Rewards: 25k, 50k, 100k

That's how I would look at it. This is a reasonable amount, when I used to spar on Zone, I rack up around 500-1000 wins a week depending on the week and day. On an average, day I get somewhere around 25-150 wins. 25 being my minimum and 150 being my maximum. These are just estimates and it may varies. 2k and 5k is too low for a reward, it wouldn't even be an accomplishment. Well enough said, lol.

kenthefruit 08-05-2013 03:50 AM

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Posted by fUnK (Post 396516)
That's alot of hats man. 5k 10k 20k for spar.
Pk 50k 100k. They're supposed to be achievement hats. I don't think 5k pk's and 2k spars is much of an achievement. And plus that's too many god damn hats. The max hats should be 3 for each category and they shouldn't be so low and close to each other.

I think there should be 3 hats period. First hat being retrievable either of the 3 ways (Spar, PK, Bomb).

Ex: Johnny likes to pk. He PKs to 50k and gets the Gas Mask Hat.
Sandy likes to spar. She Spars to 10k and gets the Gas Mask Hat.
Unknown likes to Bomb Spar. It Spars to 5k and gets the Gas Mask Hat.


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