Minecraft 1.0
 

I'm sure if you're a Minecraft player you'll already know by now, but the full version (1.0) has been released! Not too keen on the seemingly darker inventory (as pointed out by BroozeB) and there doesn't seem to be that many updates in terms of blocks (:() but it's a Minecraft update and a fresh start and I feel like I've been waiting for that for ages now.

I have backed up and completely wiped the 1.8 version of our Graalians server and it's currently sitting with a fresh new world as expected. Like pretty much every other multiplayer server out there though, we're waiting until there's a stable version of Bukkit which handles most of the server and its plugins. Another issue that seems to be creeping up across the board is a, "The server responded with an invalid server key." error, but I'm sure there will be fixes for that soon enough as well.

The 1.8 server that we ran was very much a, "My first Minecraft server!" experience for the people running it. At least to me it was. There were a few things that could have been done better, and this time they will be done better. Hopefully everything that could have possibly gone wrong had gone wrong in 1.8, so when we do get that stable release we're looking for, it's time to enjoy the server again. Looking forward to seeing the new content.

i tried to log into the server and it said i wasn't white listed, are we not allowed in yet or do we have to post again to be whitelisted?

Is there any way we can get whitelisted before the new bukkit update? Some people need to recoup their massive losses >_>

Oh, Great! I hope the bug i have is fixed in this release.

I think the server might have to be restarted when Bukkit is released, I don't know. There is nobody on the whitelist at the moment just in case.

Fine by me. Like Lava said, I hope this bug never happens again :D

I think you and i are talking about two different bugs, my one is where if i open my inventory/chest/furnace, my computer freezes. Its also not fixed in 1.0

kk thnx i was just wondering :)

that server key thing is a bit annoying . i played around with the pre-releases and it happens a lot when you disconnect and reconnect too fast . come on bukkit , I'm bored :)

Theres nether brick and nether fences. Claudrons, enchantment tables (cool for decoration) End portal blocks and endstone. Oh, and mushroom biome Mycelium blocks, lillypads (you can walk on them) and golden apples now spawn in strongholds for block updates. If you use silk touch enchantment, you can place different shaded grass from different biomes in other areas, adding for better decoration purposes. Even excluding all the dramatic changes to game play with leveling, potions, two new biomes, enchantments, a whole new dimension, 6 new mobs, and end game credits. This is the biggest minecraft update ever.

<3 endermen and enderdragon.

We still get the stuff in our 1.9 chests right?

The plan is for a complete wipe, so no.

This update is hardly necessary. Instead of contributing to the actual gameplay I think it's focusing more on minor details such as the environment, world generation, or perhaps making the Nether more than a hell-hole. Everything in this update can be done without.

I'm gonna make a giant floating castle in the new map :D

:(

Can't we live without Bukkit for a few days? Plus some of the things won't need mods anymore, stairs drop stairs now. We can still set our homes with beds and in the first few days we can just ban anyone who steals.

We use three pretty important mods for the server management - WorldGuard, Lightweight Chest Protection, and LogBlock. Everytime these haven't functioned (and before we didn't use them) the server became a mess. Like I said before too, the world may need resetting when Bukkit is added so it'd just piss people off to reset again. Might as well wait.

On another note, is sheep regrowth fixed yet?

Oh I didn't know that :unsure: I'm getting really bored, haha. I don't think Minecraft is properly finished. Enderdragon Eggs still do nothing D: and swamp water doesn't transition.

Surprise.

So enchantments, potions, and the Enderdragon boss fight aren't large additions to game play? Oh.

THEY NEED TO FIX THEM

EnderDragon fight looks boooooooooring and redundant as hell. Also the egg that it drops does nothing(just enforcing that they're rushing/forcing this update out just to call it final, even though it's not).

Notch tweeted about dragons, "if you can kill them, they're too easy!" but his idea of difficult is just giving it an insane amount of health and tons of pillars to heal him. Annoying implementation. Also Dragons don't land, they don't even have collision detection. Such a half-assed attempt like everything else he adds into Minecraft.

The death animation is pretty sweet though.

yea even in creative mode its still a pain to kill . i was gona build a place there but seeing that 1)it can fly through solid objects (the ground included) and 2)the destroys anything you build just by touching it and 3) once someone kills it it is gone for good . I'm saying screw that whole bit .

Whats the graalians server ID?

It's mc.graalians.com but as you can see in the opening post, it's not currently an active server.

Minecraft all messed up right now. They haven't updated their changelog and stuff. Ugh. So many issues since 1.8

I'm dying of boredom, just make the server 1.0.0 D:

The Ender dragon fight is awesome in my opinion. I participated in a dragon raid with 15 other people the other day, and I have to say its the most fun I have ever had in a game for a long time. Sure, the eggs are incomplete. Thats just laying out for updates in the future, because minecraft is never finished. This release is just a milestone where the developers feel there is enough content for it to be considered a full game. You can always find a negative side to anything, and from what i have seen with your opinions i think you want to look at minecraft in the most negative way, so im not debating with you on this subject anymore as it will always produce the same results.

Hey pimpsey can I help build another platform?
And could you help me (like. Around and showing how the new stuff is done and all)

You know my opinion on Minecraft yet you initiated this anyways.

Glad you like fighting a boss that does nothing but fly away, has a ton of health, destroys everything you build, and constantly heals. Sounds like a lot of fun.

It's marketed as a full game now, but they couldn't even bother to finish the end game. Oh, and anything. Everything is half-finished and half-implemented. They didn't even fix most of the bugs they dedicated the last month to a feature freeze for. You know why? Because they were rushing to get crap done for Minecon. NPC's aren't expected to be done for a year, or more. I don't consider the current state to be a full game because it's quite obvious they rushed and pushed out incomplete content just to meet deadlines so they can raise the price.

This is a screenshot of what they're selling full-price now:
http://i53.tinypic.com/2959zt5.png

They're well aware of this, and actually responded that they don't intend to fix it.

No, you perceive that I have this only negative outlook on Minecraft for a reason I can only assume is bias. Like I have said many times my problem with Minecraft is that it had so much potential to be insanely more awesome it currently is and they ****ed it up by slacking off after the money came in.

Notch hasn't kept his word on a single promise he has made since he started his company. When Minecraft was in Alpha he constantly provided players with a list of guidelines that would define when Minecraft would be suitable for Beta. This included SMP being bug-free and played identical to single-player. All of that was disregarded and Minecraft was rushed to Beta for the Halloween update. Surprise, Halloween update only contained about half of the announced updates as well. Rushed because they wanted Minecraft to be Beta because it would mean a price increase. The same thing is happening with the Full release now and that annoys the hell out of me.

i wish they would add mod support. everytime i try to add a mod i fail :(

also im going to miss my wolf, and pirate ship on the old graalians server :(

I didnt initiate anything. I was just replying to Broozes post. I dont know what you are talking about here.


Glad you like fighting a boss that does nothing but fly away, has a ton of health, destroys everything you build, and constantly heals. Sounds like a lot of fun.

What about, actually fight the dragon before bashing it? Thanks.
Rusing for minecon on some things such as mod-support and such is a problem I think is pretty obvious, but that was because they had to get a finished product for minecon. That is one part i dont like about mojang, but they are a new developer that hadn't even been around for a year when they made the decision to release a full version of minecraft for minecon, and this did make some content suffer, but it wasn't because they are half assing, its because they didn't want to dissapoint their fans on a bad move made by a new company.

This is exactly what i meant by you constantly looking at its negatives. This is what i see as the finished product:

http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/...ntlookdown.png



Excuse me, but when was the last time you were happy about an update? Its only natural to assume that when someone is constantly bashing seemingly everything about something ( example: "Notch hasn't kept his word on a single promise he has made since he started his company.") that they have a bias towards a particular viewpoint. I dont know where you got that I have a bias from at all.

Why do you assume I haven't?

No, their company got the better of them, that's my problem. Now they have to do shows, rush releases to meet deadlines instead of doing what's better for the product. They're everything that they claim an indie developer shouldn't be. They're a slave to their own company. Notch was pushing out more content in a week every week than he has in months and months of delays. There's a reason mods like "Better than wolves" were created, because modders know that Notch isn't doing all that Minecraft is capable of.



That's nice, but that doesn't excuse my screenshot. That's my perspective, I can admire the good and the bad, without thinking good things cancel out the bad. It doesn't work like that. I don't care how good a game is it doesn't cancel out huge bugs.



Just because I'm not vocal about how happy I am about something doesn't mean I don't admire it. I've liked lots of tiny things, and I've been pretty vocal about those things, you're just not around to hear them. See, but here's the thing, right now the bad things are outweighing the good. Minecraft hardly gets any content, and the content it does get is often unfinished. Achievements? Added and then never touched again, even though they have the potential to provide content, even miniscule. Trap doors? Poorly implemented and a pain in the ass to use. Swamps? Slapped on top of the terrain, not even properly integrated into the biome code, and then just left there. Mushroom biomes have no purpose at all, and like the swamp they're just slapped over the terrain. The nether went a long time without having any real purpose, and was a huge complaint from lots of players. Its purpose is still a bit lacking other than harvesting a few things that aren't very useful. Moon phases were added, but only visually, even though they had the potential to add some deeper gameplay. NPC villages were added with the promise of NPCs... surprise, NPCs did nothing and were pulled, citing potential release in a year after they hire an AI programmer. What happened to lanterns? Oh right. They never get half of the stuff they say they will in an update. These additions are lacking compared to the numerous bugs they introduce, or more importantly, what could have been. Look at XP orbs. They were added and not even addressed. The server was unplayable for days, and Jeb said they were going to release an emergency update to fix the issue but he never did. Instead they decided to wait for the next major release. That's the kind of stuff that annoys me.

I like lots of small things, but that's just it, the smallest things tend to be the most interesting and it shouldn't be like that. I like the chests animations, and the enchanting book animation, but now the rest of the world looks lacking. Now things like doors should animate or else they look out of date, but that'll never happen.

And yes, if you ever followed Notch you'd have seen that he has promised a lot of things over the years he's been working on Minecraft. No it's not biased because he actually has fallen through on most of them. He said if he ever got bored of Minecraft, or if sales ever slowed down he'd release it open source. And this was after he made lot of money. He respected what he had made and respected the players who supported him. But do you think that'd happen now? Of course not, it's not in the companies best interest. Exactly, the company. And that's what it boils down to. These updates lack enthusiasm, they lack the spirit of a developer enjoying what he's doing. It feels like Graal now.

Some examples of why Minecraft fails, targeting mostly the terrain, but a bit of bugs as well.
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It's a fun game, in my opinion. Yeah, Notch kinda stopped caring about the game and threw some crap for final release together, but it's gonna be an improvement over 1.8. I'm most excited about the new mc server, though.

That just looks like a bad seed.

the black water is horrible.

It was multiple seeds, my world saves is a clutter**** now...I was just going around creating random new worlds in creative mode to see what I could find. I actually found some nice caves and even a blaze spawner in one.

The only thing that looks like a bad seed error is the one with the land just stopping. The rest are regular occurrences with terrain generation because of the way most things overlap. For example something cutting into water tends to not force the water to reflow, causing just a wall of water like in a few of the screenshots. Ravines, abandoned mines, rivers and strongholds tend to intersect each other a lot, causing all sorts of ugly and broken environments.

The land stopping was where the ocean biome started, kind of fail.

Nah that's not normal, definitely some sort of seed error. It looks as though the chunks are reading two different seeds, something that happens when you try to explore an old world with the newer Minecraft's, or if you simply happen to have a bad seed.

Read this and weep:
http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Upcoming_features

Seems too short.

YOU BROKE MINECRAFT NOTCH!

I would enjoy display cases though. Somebody made a fairly neat mod it already. I think it would be better if you could just right click with your item and then right click again to take it out.

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In the examples of "Why minecraft fails", whats wrong with #8 and the one with the open field?

I actually like stumbling upon prairies in minecraft...they look neat, because of the open land.

And I thought mines were supposed to be cluttered and in chaos, with random planks and webs. :P

"Number Eight" is a complete clutter****, it's a deep ass random ravine with floating **** everywhere and it looks disgusting. What I was trying to point out is THERE IS A MONSTER SPAWNER RIGHT ON THE EDGE. I am not even kidding, it's just chilling there. What the hell? Who wants all this floating **** in the way? Ravines are worthless anyways.
The fields, there is grass EVERYWHERE. Everywhere, everywhere, everywhere. It's a pain in the ass when there is grass everywhere.

There tends to be grass on fields.