To the GA of iEra
 

This thread is directed at to the Guns Admin. Can you please sort out the KSG and make it worth it's price of 75k, it has been months or perhaps a year since the KSG got nerffed and nothing is being done with it, dispite all the complaints which have been made in previous threads, I am starting a new thread because old ones just dies off. So can you please sort it out as far as I can recall Meph said in October last year he will look into it when he has time, as he is on a leave, because of his new born baby (god bless her/her :)), can the new GA please sort this issue out ?

The KSG was buffed 2 weeks ago, it does 4.5 damage per bullet when upgraded and is the only gun to not have the hit registration time. It's well worth it's price

I still think(No everyone still think that it is under-powered).. It has a very high freeze rendering its shield useless since the shield only decrease damage by 20-30%(correct me if i'm wrong). A 75K gun should be much stronger than that.

My suggestion is at least decrease the freeze when the shield is on to make it more maneuverable.
Or make the damage at perfect to be 5 per bullet to compensate its high freeze.

The gun is unique and it must be well balanced.

Sorry but the gun is still not worth it's price, iv tested it and the Shield is just useless, in regards to what igotnostyle has said it is all true... - 75k gun does nothing as mentioned on the stats of its description

The shield is absolutely useless, you can get out manuivered and get killed by a ak47 worth 1.5k I think, compare 1.5k gun to a 75k gun which gets owned by a noob/pro.

I was just testing the gun with a sparer and a friend named Khan, he and I both have the KSG, we tried facing the KSG to the starter AK47 and Starter DOUBLE Uzi, and guess what, on both rounds of having each turns on the KSG, both times the KSG got owned by the Starter AK47 and Starter Double Uzi.

Now please explain how does that distinguish the price and the balance of KSG to rest of the guns?

Use it without the shield then, the gun would still be worth the 75k even if it didn't have it, it has a high rate of fire, every bullet that hits does damage instantly, and having the shield is a bonus for if your trying to get away or use it when your on low health to stop yourself from dying. The only difference is, like the new rifle it takes skill to use. If you take the time to learn how to use it you'll find it's an extremely powerful gun.

Yes, but that gun is not used for spar or for skills, that gun is only unique in the entire game for its shield, when in police they use the KSG they only use it for the riot shield for not getting hurt and charge, same as for iEra when basing. That guns specification is only good for basing not PK'ing or sparring.

Or at least make the shield when your not holding the shield from the front it rests behind you like in reality not completely disapearing in thin pixels, so if anyone shoots you from behind it deals some damage, because frankly speaking the shield is absolute useless and I didn't pay 75k just for a shotgun that does 4.5 damage on a single bullet I have a PBP, and I'm sure every KSG owner will agree to some extent that the Shield and gun is not worth it's price

I don't care about misplaced nastolgia, but I still want to see the original shield functions returned. It's just too cool, recieving no damage at all base on a random percentage. That was epic and the KSG was still beatable if you can hit it enough times.

Yes the KSG shield use to get penetrated by fire damage

No offense but honestly the gun is still under-powered for its price(75k)

The High Fire rate is not enough to compensate for the extremely high freeze.

Well at least reduce the freeze to make it useful in spar.

You may say that the gun is build to take hit and not deal a lot of damage but

as what i observe the shield is not really that useful.

No registration time sounds amazing.

Give the shield a small chance of taking no damage (or about 2 damage) from bullets?

Okay I've been testing KSG all morning in u der ground spar and bases, the Shield has no powers to observe the bullets firing from any direction, there is no percentage of decreasing damage when the shield is on, any gun which shoots you with the riot shield on does full damage not half or any % of it going down, so infact all you have buffed is 0.5 damage extra on each bullet and has taken away the riot shield function off completely.

Now please explain to me how does the KSG gun meet its price of 75k ?

Then only use it for basing?

One question what does 4.5 damage look like? For say you get shot by a KSG user and you miss one bullet but the other one hit you will it say 45.5/50 Health

Yep. Even standard trash pick used to do decimal damage in the early era stage. It was buffed as there was nearly no point in the decimal damage. KSG has a good reason to have decimal damage. The decimal damage also appears when attacking NPC enemies.

That's the thing any gun dominates the KSG whilst basing

Example: 50/50 hit once -> 46/50 -> hit again -> 41/50
I think that's what it does, same with the trash pick, except that does 1.5 damage.

Or change it back to the way it was before it was nerfed. 4 damage, no more, no less, shield blocks all but explosives and melee, and only way to hit a riot shield was flank around it and hit the side or back.

A even better idea is to make the shield a complete melee alone.

Please sort out the Shield!

A gun that not only does stacking damage.. but also reduces incoming damage?! Bro, this gun is like a god send. Besides, you can't have guns that have .01 freeze, insanely high rate of fire and high damage. Guns need balance! A gun that can do what the iEra's KSG can do is pretty amazing.

I fear this goes to most guns including auctioned one's*
I have Mp7 way long before it was later auctioned like 2 weeks, it then didn't had reloading clip freezes very much(goes for souzien) and it was later fixed to faster reloading rate.
After it was auctioned, the freeze has increased a lot(by far) and now it just messes up my way of sparring/gang sparring just because of 1 problem.

The only thing changed on the mp7 was and increased reload time, not sure why that was changed since it was fine but ill fix it soon, as for the shield I'm not sure what your talking about as I used it and it was blocking the bullets by 25% as it should be

ONLY 25% OF BULLETS WERE BLOCKED????????? HOW THE FK DO YOU CALL THAT A SHEILD????? JESUS I WOULD GET MORE PROTECTION WITH A CARDBOARD BOX

You probably wouldn't.

It means the bar does roughly 8 damage if your using it -.-

Does it block 25%, 100% of the time?

I think so

That's what it's been since the 20% full block chance was removed

Me and bobo tested it: my rusty Thompson did 6 damage to his shield every time we tried, which is how much damage it would normally do being rusty

Lies!

Iv tested it, BAR does 10 dmg whilst shield is on when in perfect condition, m4 does 9 damage when shield is on, and tec does 7 damage whilst shield is on, the 25% block rate does not work, please re-check it and see for yourself, also what is the point of a shield if it does not block?

Fix it? KSG doesn't seem like a "Fun-Gun" anymore when shield has broken. It used to deal 5dmg from a BAR when the percentage wasn't decreased.

Stabilized it? maybe

Basically, the KSG should have a functioning shield, not one that barely does its job... No matter what admin disagrees because that's what's happening.

What about this idea: Change the shield back to its release stats and try this. Instead of having stats based on a shield or no shield, the shield should only last for say... Five hits and then is "destroyed." Then, a few moments later it regenerates.

So, with a shield that takes damage til temporarily destroyed, you can keep the KSG at one stat set and not deviate from a single freeze. That sounds fair to me.

The old shield was removed because you we're basically a walking, shooting bamboo block, unless you want the old block back but with only a 15% chance of blocking all damage

how about make the damage of KSG 5 per bullet at perfect then decrease the freeze when the shield is on.

In that way everyone is happy.

If that happen you can USE ksg in spar not only in basing.

The debate about KSG was been too long. Its time to end it and make it right

I mean common it cost 75k, look at the gun in the range of 75k. they are all powerfull except for KSG.
for example:
Sten vs KSG winner= Sten while sten only cost 65k at ksg at 75k

I'm saying that the percentage should be much larger, so it's a shield, not cardboard roulette. If it can be destroyed, with a timer between regenerations, that would make it fair.

Only thing you'd have to worry about is unequipping... Adding a timer behind that, so that unequipping quickly doesn't give you a fresh shield.

But that just seems weird, it's not an energy shield from halo that breaks after a few shots and then regenerates, it's a riot shield and the reason it can't have a high percentage is because as I said then it will become a walking, shooting bamboo block.

Also at the other guy, making the Ksg 5 damage and reducing the freeze will not happen, when I was making the damage 4.5 I accidentally made it 5 and absolutely destroyed everyone whilst testing, and that was with the current freeze it has. As I already said you should be lucky you even have the shield, I'd have priced it 75k for what is it now without it, 9 damage, a high fire rate, 2 bullets, a freeze which really isn't that high and no bullet timer. I don't see why you're all complaining, I use the Ksg over my souizen and mp7 in both spars and bases because it is a good gun but like the neo rifle it takes skill to get used to it.

Instead of sitting here whining about how you all want a shield that blocks all damage 30% of the time, with a gun that has a fast fire rate and high damage just seems like you want an incredibly overpowered gun. I'm not saying it won't be changed at all, but if I was to change anything it would probably be the walking speed, shield equip freeze and a very slight adjustment to the firerate with shield equipped. And to me that seems like your getting a lot more for the price your paying for.

Well then Improve the fire rate of the KSG while equipped with shield. and at least lower the freeze while the shield is on.

Common aren't you tired of people complaining about this?
People will not complain this far if the gun is Right for its price.
And you can only see very few people use the KSG for the reason that it is easily overpowered by other gun that has less price than it.

Check the shield stat, as the shield does not block 30% of the damage, also lower the freeze rate when shield is equipped..

OH hey guyz i know how to fix this!!! DITCH THE RIOT SHIELD MAKE THE KSG ITS OWN GUN AND MAKE THE RIOT SHIELD ITS OWN MELEE.

that way riot shield can block 100% of bullets, no gun. The gun made the riot shield OP.

I don't get it, everyone who owns a KSG are complaining on the lack of shield operations, why isn't anything is being done? The shield is not even in working mode at the moment as it does not block no damage whatsoever :/

Can you please explain to me why it apparently doesn't "work" when I tested it 5minutes ago and it was working

yesterday I played around with it and still took full damage while the shield was equipped

Are you sure? I just tested again with a neo rifle that was rusty, his first bullet did 7 damage when my shield was unequipped, and the 2nd bullet did 4 damage when my shield was equipped

just tested and still took full damage

Iv just tested again as well it took full damage :/

A bar shot me and I had my shield out. It was facing in the direction where the bullet was, and still took 10 damage.

Look, I don't even own the gun and I know your logic is wrong. Yes, your power gives you a sense of duty, but the shield is pointless and you know it. We aren't whining. We're simply saying that there is pointless content out on the server that should be upgraded to actually be fun and functional to use. If you're unwilling to even try something new like my idea, then fine.

And by the way, this is a game where reality is constantly broken. A halo styled shield wouldnt be as much of a stretch as your assuming. It's not like I'm asking for it to glow cyan. No. The system of a broken shield would work perfectly to balance how long you have the shield for. Not that challenging.

Just because you're in control doesn't mean you're right by the way, just means to have 51% say and a 51% chance of pissing off loyal players.

Once the shield is working as it should be, the ksg could probably rush a bar as it could do 9 damage compared to the 8 that the bar would do with the shield.

Yes but with the high freeze rate when equipped of shield bar would easily kill KSG

To be honest, I actually do like your idea, it will actually balance the gun right that way...

Actually, without the bullet registration timer, I'd give the ksg a good shot. Every hit could let you eat a few bullets when the enemy can't eat yours.

Here lets make the shield deflect bullets completely as riot shields do. I mean an umbrella (which, maight I remind you, keeps you dry on a rainy day and can be pierced by a twig) deflects bullets so why not a riot shield (which, might I remind you, is its function to begin with). That would make it worth its price and yes a 5 damage would cover the freeze rate.