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Skill 06-15-2013 04:16 AM

ArcheAge-The Greatest(Upcoming) MMO Ever?
 
http://www.archeage.com/en#trailer

So I've been paying attention to Archeage for a while now, and it's getting ported to NA soon and beta signups are open.

It appears to be the most dynamic MMO I've ever seen. Tons of interaction like building houses and ships, building a castle from scratch and defending it with a guild, tons of open world stuff, trade, everything you could possibly think of.

The graphics are beautiful. Just about everything in it seems like what an MMO should have, I can't really describe it. You need to look to see what I mean.


Whenever it does come out, I'm going to be making a guild and inviting anyone from Graalians who want to join, I bet it'll be a long time though.

beta sign ups:
http://www.archeagegame.com/en/

Rexx 06-15-2013 05:41 AM

It seems like every upcoming MMO is going to be the best and compete with WoW's success.
They all end up F2P with dying populations.

Skill 06-15-2013 06:59 AM

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Posted by Rexx (Post 368546)
It seems like every upcoming MMO is going to be the best and compete with WoW's success.
They all end up F2P with dying populations.

While this may be true, I feel like this game has done more than any other mmo has- the amount of things you can do and how in depth those activities are is truly amazing. It's the most in depth sandbox mmo I've seen, while still containing the traditional mmo elements people enjoy. The quality seems unrilvaled, thought I do agree that we will have to wait and see until it comes out in NA/Eu

Castør 06-15-2013 07:51 PM

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Posted by Skill (Post 368582)
While this may be true, I feel like this game has done more than any other mmo has- the amount of things you can do and how in depth those activities are is truly amazing. It's the most in depth sandbox mmo I've seen, while still containing the traditional mmo elements people enjoy. The quality seems unrilvaled, thought I do agree that we will have to wait and see until it comes out in NA/Eu

You've got a point. The Europeans sure love dem sum World of Tanks.

Imprint 06-20-2013 07:21 PM

I've been following this MMO for a while. I don't know if it will interest me more then GW2, but I'm looking for people to give it a try with.

Smoke 06-20-2013 09:20 PM

Just saw several videos from the Fan-site links and i'm truly amazed! As stated before you can most definitely do heaps amount of stuff in this MMO, I can truly see this game coming out with great success :)

Skill 06-28-2013 03:00 AM

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Posted by Imprint (Post 372495)
I've been following this MMO for a while. I don't know if it will interest me more then GW2, but I'm looking for people to give it a try with.

I feel like it does a better job at being a more user created mmo, because of how much sandbox-like stuff it has in it such as player housing and building a guild castle from scratch. It does the "open world" aspect of MMO's much better. IMO gw2 is just better with quest related stuff and dynamic events-from the start Archeage seems to kinda be a generic quest oriented game but it branches out into tons of awesome stuff like I explained earlier.

Tezz 06-29-2013 04:29 AM

Looks like it'll be good, but if I already have a Trion account would I be signed up for the beta or what?

Skill 06-29-2013 09:41 AM

go to the beta page and login to your account, that should sign you up

Tezz 06-30-2013 03:08 AM

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Posted by Skill (Post 378581)
go to the beta page and login to your account, that should sign you up

Oh wow. Not even sure why I didn't try that. Thanks.

Talon 07-07-2013 05:28 PM

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Posted by Skill (Post 377824)
gw2 is just better with quest related stuff and dynamic events-from the start Archeage seems to kinda be a generic quest oriented game but it branches out into tons of awesome stuff like I explained earlier.

Have you seen WvW on GW2?

Emera 07-07-2013 06:06 PM

WoW sucks donkey feces

Skill 07-07-2013 06:08 PM

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Posted by Talon (Post 382570)
Have you seen WvW on GW2?

Yeah, I play it occasionally. it's really just a 1 sided mess where the server with the larger zerg stomps everyone else. Anything you take during the day gets nullified at night when the enemy logs in at like 4 am and steals everything.

Sometimes it's fun, but it still lags a lot.

Imprint 07-08-2013 02:44 AM

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Posted by Skill (Post 382593)
Yeah, I play it occasionally. it's really just a 1 sided mess where the server with the larger zerg stomps everyone else. Anything you take during the day gets nullified at night when the enemy logs in at like 4 am and steals everything.

That's true if everyone in the zerg is running solo, but if you're playing with a guild you can take on larger zergs that don't know what they're doing.

Skill 07-08-2013 03:13 AM

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Posted by Imprint (Post 382818)
That's true if everyone in the zerg is running solo, but if you're playing with a guild you can take on larger zergs that don't know what they're doing.

Maybe if they're stupid enough to run into a room filled with arrow carts or get owned by stealth/aoes while attacking a door/not paying attention, but any significant difference in zerg sizes almost always means you can't do anything against their attack.

Whenever my server is outmanned I just run around duoing camps with people, it's pretty much all you can do since defending anything against a much larger zerg doesn't work.

Nyte* 07-10-2013 05:18 PM

Can I not get into the beta anymore? I signed up

Skill 07-10-2013 07:26 PM

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Posted by Nyte* (Post 384295)
Can I not get into the beta anymore? I signed up

The beta hasn't started yet.

Skill 04-13-2014 01:24 AM

Bumping this now that EU/NA is now in the alpha part of testing, and release is planned for this year. I absolutely cannot wait.

It reminds me a lot of Graal Kingdoms. You can build a ship and sail with others, you can build a house on the actual map(not instanced) and decorate it, but there's so much more. Crafting is important, the world is huge, there's all kinds of challenges and dungeons. You can build a castle as large as you want with your guild, as long as you can get the resources to the northern continent. You can be a pirate and hijack others ships/steal their resources.

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Posted by Rexx (Post 368546)
It seems like every upcoming MMO is going to be the best and compete with WoW's success.
They all end up F2P with dying populations.

Adding on to this, every mmo like that dies because they all are themepark MMOs. They cannot put out content faster than players consume it. because of this, they die. With sandbox games, players create the content, which allows them to never get old.

Archeage is the first game to mix sandbox and themepark elements, and it does so with AAA quality, which is why I think it'll succeed

Nyte* 04-26-2014 04:49 PM

Got an email saying they have founders packs. I think you have to pay $125 or so to get into the Alpha right now which kinds sucks. I believe there's ways to get into the Russian beta with an English patch though if anyone is interested.

Skill 04-30-2014 02:37 AM

Party hard.

http://www.twitch.tv/bikeman/c/4141728

iHot 04-30-2014 02:43 AM

MMO's are garbage now.

Skill 04-30-2014 04:06 AM

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Posted by iHot (Post 471137)
MMO's are garbage now.

Archeage breaks free from the habit that makes most MMOs garbage IMO. Instead of trying to copy WoW and be another Themepark MMO with its own niche perk, Archeage changes the way an MMO is played. Rather than just feeding players content to try and beat(quests, raiding endgame, pvp arenas), they have players make up the game. You craft stuff, you build a house, a castle, and attack other's castles. You build castles from scratch using pieces in the design you want. Everything you build is on the map you play through-low level zones aren't forgotten. Climate affects how well your crops grow.

You'll have player made stories. Guild that controls a zone in Auroria charges too many taxes? Players may band together to overthrow the guild so that its more affordable. Guild charges too few taxes? They might not be able to afford to continually repair their castle, and might get defeated by a powerful force.

Ships are a unique feature, and everything in the world matters. Players acting as pirates might try to take you down as you deliver a trade pack across continents for huge rewards, and kill you to steal the trade pack. You'll have reputable guilds that act as mercenaries for protection against pirates, for a fee. You'll have known top crafters in each server that make the best of equipment.

It's sort of a kickback to Ultima Online from what I've heard, just less hardcore. It's not just another "do our quests, hit endgame and try to beat our hard raiding, and kill people in pvp arenas" with better graphics and some form of unique thing to it. It literally follows another format known as a sandbox MMO.

Imprint 04-30-2014 11:13 AM

If it's a kickback to Ultima Online that sounds pretty cool. Sounds like they managed to do a lot of the things EVE does well without the mountain of menus. If I manage to get a key I'll definitely check it out. Can you give me a rundown of your opinion on the PvP?

Skill 04-30-2014 09:39 PM

PVP in Archeage is core to the game; without it, many elements of the game would not function.

The PVP in Archeage is open world pvp, in PVP zones. The high level zones are PVP, the northern(entirely player run) continent is pvp, and the open seas are pvp.There are 2 factions, one from the western continent, one from the eastern continent. If you kill a player of the opposing faction, you get honor points which can be used for various things(I believe there are diminishing returns on the same player so it can't be exploited). So generally, you're rewarded for killing the enemy faction.

If you kill a player from your own faction, a blood splatter appears. Anyone can click this splatter while it remains, and report the crime. When reported, you gain crime points and infamy points. If you reach 50 crime points, upon your next death from another player, you are sent to trial. You can also get crime points from stealing crops from your own faction. Players from your faction then vote on a jury as to whether you are guilty or innocent. Generally to be chosen innocent, you would need to come up with a valid reason for your crimes.

For example, perhaps you were gathering your friends tree farm for him since he couldn't log in, and someone mistook it for a crime and reported the footprints. Maybe someone stole your trade pack, so you had to kill them to take it back. I've also seen silly excuses for crimes, such as "He told me to stab him not my fault", and "I'm stopping untaxed farms by stealing their unprotected crops, he's the criminal not me" and so much more.

If chosen guilty, you go to jail. In jail, you can either serve your time, or attempt to break out in a variety of ways(my favorite being stealing a guard tower key, climbing up it, and taking a confiscated hang glider to fly over the walls). Breaking out is risky as you might be recaptured, but is an option. Generally you want to have friends with a getaway boat ready when you break out so that no other player tries to kill you to turn you back in. Jail sort of felt like a throwback to Old Graal Classic before jail got silenced- people have loads of fun in there, but after a while long sentences do act as a means of not wanting to commit crimes.

If you accumulate 3000 infamy points, you get banished from your faction, and become a pirate on the central pirate island. You pretty much live off of stealing trade packs from other players attempting to sail them across continents, and it can be pretty fun. Only the worst of criminals become pirates.

PVP is also crucial because of trade runs. You earn gold from crafting a trade pack with various materials such as plants you grow and stuff you mine, and delivering it somewhere else. The further you take it, the better of rewards you get. The thing is, other players can attempt to kill you to steal it, and take the profits for themselves. This makes PVP highly important, as you need to be able to defend yourself from theft by either your faction, pirates, or the enemy faction. You may also want to steal from people. This is why people band together for high risk trade runs such as cross continental ones.

So generally, you do not want to kill a member of your own faction, unless you see a reason to do so such as stealing the trade packs on their ship for your own profit.

The northern continent allows players to build castles on it, or attack the castles of others. The north continent is literally empty, except of what players create. These take a massive amount of resources such as stone, lumber, and iron, and will likely be a large group effort. You can design them however you want, placing walls, gates, guard towers, cannons, and other parts however you see fit. Other players can also attack your castle, so you need to defend it. I believe its open for attack only at a certain time each week-so you don't need people on 24/7 to defend it. You can tax players for land on your castle. Because of this, you may see player lead rebellions against large guilds that tax too high. You may also see guilds fall apart due to lack of funding from low taxes. Getting resources to the north as hard, as you need to avoid theft when transporting them, and also avoid the Kraken which is insanely strong.

I think there's arenas of some sort, but I'm not sure.

Archeage isn't nearly as complicated as EVE online, it is a lot less overwhelming. It starts out a lot like a standard MMO like WoW, with quests, but over time introduces you to new features as you level. You get a horse that you raise at level 5, small rowboat at like level 7, a glider at level 12, and a farm at around 15. Leveling is also super fast too, I hit level 15 in about a couple hours and apparently hitting 50 only takes a few days to a few weeks-it isn't a grind. Pretty much everything from crafting to gathering gives EXP, too. You shouldn't feel completely overwhelmed when starting, and it doesn't take too long to learn, but there's so much to do that it doesn't feel stagnant after a while.

John 04-30-2014 09:54 PM

Skill, you're making this game the reason I want a PC so bad. I'm building one soon and I keep looking at the specs of the game so I can get at least a good decent build.

Skill 04-30-2014 11:54 PM

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Posted by John (Post 471267)
Skill, you're making this game the reason I want a PC so bad. I'm building one soon and I keep looking at the specs of the game so I can get at least a good decent build.

What's your budget? I can recommend you a build that can run the game on various setting levels.

I run the game on highest settings smoothly on the following medium budget build:

FX 6350 6 cores @3.9 GHZ ~$130
Radeon 7870(the R9 270X is slightly better for the same price) ~$200
8 GB RAM
1 TB HDD

I'd recommend at least a 600 watt PSU, and an am3+ motherboard compatible with your PSU.
The entire build would have probably cost about $600-700 excluding interface devices like a monitor/keyboard.

For low budget, this can probably run the game on medium or high:

Radeon HD 7770(~$110)
AMD FX-4300 Vishera 3.8GHz (4.0GHz) Socket AM3+ (~$110)
8 GB RAM(~$75)
1 TB HDD(~$60)
500W bronze PSU(~40)
am3+ ATX Motherboard(~$70)
cheap case(~$20)


I'd say for less than $500 you can probably build a PC that can run this game. If that's still too much, you might be able to skip out on a graphics card and get an APU/fm2 socket motherboard, and cut the cost by about $100-150, though it would only run it at about medium.

Imprint 05-01-2014 12:12 AM

Sounds like a load of fun. MMOs always tout how dynamic their PvE world is and forget that PvP should be have an effect on the game as well. GW2 kind of managed this with WvW and that's what attracted me to that game, but it looks like Archage might have some cool things too. Gonna try to get into the Beta when it starts.

HON3Y BADG3R 05-01-2014 02:34 AM

I am already in love. Is alpha $150 as I read? This is a game I have dreamt of.

EDIT: Alpha Founders pack (early access with a bunch of in-game items) is a good bargain, but not for me. Signed up and applied for beta.

Skill 05-02-2014 03:19 AM

http://www.twitch.tv/bikeman/c/4141434

that party boat LOL

edit: nvm its just a longer version of the old video.

Distorted 05-05-2014 10:42 AM

Honestly WoW has died out, it's lost tons of members and support, that's why it's free now lol, I definitely think this games got potential.

Skill 05-05-2014 05:58 PM

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Posted by Distorted (Post 472064)
Honestly WoW has died out, it's lost tons of members and support, that's why it's free now lol, I definitely think this games got potential.

WoW isn't free except for an extremely generic trial... not sure where you heard that. And the game still has millions of subscribers.

Distorted 05-05-2014 06:04 PM

It used to be extremely talked about, and quite popular. But now they make less games, that's all I meant.

Imprint 05-05-2014 06:50 PM

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Posted by Distorted (Post 472175)
It used to be extremely talked about, and quite popular. But now they make less games, that's all I meant.

? They released D3 and are working on hearthstone. There's a new expansion coming for WoW. WoW still has millions of subscribers (much more than most MMOs). Yeah it's not at the 11 million peak, but Blizzard and WoW are far from dead.

Talon 05-07-2014 06:32 AM

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Posted by Distorted (Post 472064)
Honestly WoW has died out, it's lost tons of members and support, that's why it's free now lol, I definitely think this games got potential.

WoW's not dead, it's not free and it definitely still has support. You're just not hearing about it as much since there's not much to hear about and there are a larger variety of MMOs to pick from. The WoW community is probably pretty tight-knit now too.


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