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GotenGraal 06-03-2013 04:38 AM

Era Rant
 
Ok just started playing Era again and man I got alot to say.

So, I decided to play the admins hide and seek. The prize was there dolls and statues. I'm like f*** some g*y dolls but hey free statues. So the third round I actually won and found the admins Jake and cxmus (whatever his name is) in some shop. I'm like sweet, then they let me grab them for there dolls then tell me to invite them to my gh. I invite and they tell me I must provide statues. MOTHER F***ERS EVEN IF I HAD THE STATUES I WOULDN'T WANT YOUR UGLY MUGS ON THEM. Honestly, the admins promote admin ass kissing by giving out there dolls and statues of themselves as event prizes.

Now now first off why the hell do these admins think there ugly mugs are worth more than a noob? Get real you admins are just players with worst graphics on most of the time, dunno why you think statues of yourselves our worth as an event prize, and any noob who thinks there cool for having them need to get some friends.

Ok but besides the statues I get 2 dolls OMG DOLLS!! I look in my inventory after the admins go and realize there's none! I go to the doll shop and pay the bs 1k that allows me to use dolls or whatever. Check my inventory, oh wow 2 dolls of admins!! Can I trade them? no. Can I drop them? no. Can I sell them? no. What hell are the point of these? I'd rather have my friends dolls if any than some random admins. Oo I can show off like dumbass kids at the start point who think they're cool for having them.

All in all, statues of admins and dolls of admins are ****ty prizes for an event and only promotes admin ass kissing. Seriously, your dolls aren't worth more than a kid with 1 second of online time.

Nabu Lapse 06-03-2013 04:52 AM

I've never heard more true words in my life.

Dmitri* 06-03-2013 04:58 AM

Agreed, if you beat an event setup by an admin you should get a better prize than a doll or something. But, it's not like they always give out dolls and statues for winning an event. Most of the time when I win events setup by admins, I get EC. If they can't give an EC for some reason, give the player some food or some useful item rather than a doll.

Olirus 06-03-2013 05:55 AM

You don't have to play, if they are hosting something you don't want.

Kane 06-03-2013 05:59 AM

I didn't know Graalians is turning into Facebook.

Talon 06-03-2013 06:11 AM

Just because you don't like the dolls/statues doesn't mean everyone else doesn't. Who do you think you are, calling a game **** because of one insignificant thing basically only you dislike?

Myst 06-03-2013 09:12 AM

i also dislike it, he is not alone. and im sure many others dislike it.

snk 06-03-2013 09:26 AM

I'll make a new command to lay admin statues. Thanks

Rockstar 06-03-2013 09:32 AM

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Posted by snk (Post 361582)
I'll make a new command to lay admin statues. Thanks

Uhhhh, what?

snk 06-03-2013 09:34 AM

He's angry about having to pay for a statue.... Well that's what I read anyway

Rockstar 06-03-2013 09:35 AM

Actually buying the statue in which someone grabs? or an Admin statue?

snk 06-03-2013 09:36 AM

Read the thread...

NCJohn 06-03-2013 09:38 AM

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Posted by snk (Post 361588)
He's angry about having to pay for a statue.... Well that's what I read anyway

He's not mad about buying the statues. He says he finds that the whole admin doll/admin statue as prizes system only promotes staff worship/asskissing and that we shouldn't idolize them over regular players.

Jeni<3 06-03-2013 01:44 PM

So here is the dilemma...we can only do so many events with ec yet players spam nonstop wanting more events or us to host something for them to do so we try to get creative. Personally, I give dolls and statues upon request so there is zero motivation for anyone to want to do a thing to earn them, so when I do non-traditional events I give a special unsold hat as a prize. I completely get the worshipping perception and agree that is really unnecessary but like anything else who are we to tell people how to feel about us good or bad? At the end of the day, just don't participate as we always will announce ahead of time what the prize is in these circumstances. I understand you don't like it but there is always a huge turnout indicating enough players actually appreciate the activity.

5hift 06-03-2013 02:01 PM

Admins should make ore special hats that they should give out in events. Would it seem wirth it then?

GotenGraal 06-03-2013 03:11 PM

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Posted by NCJohn (Post 361592)
He's not mad about buying the statues. He says he finds that the whole admin doll/admin statue as prizes system only promotes staff worship/asskissing and that we shouldn't idolize them over regular players.

This guy read the last paragraph! Thanks John

@Jeni Yes alot of people play and like the prizes because they think having a doll of some random admin makes them "kul" and gives them "swaq". If you can't give ec why not hats or something with some use to it.

@Snk Yes, it's rather stupid imo to have to provide the statues for the admins to use but that wasn't my main point of the thread, John clarified what I meant basically.

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Posted by Talon (Post 361546)
Just because you don't like the dolls/statues doesn't mean everyone else doesn't. Who do you think you are, calling a game **** because of one insignificant thing basically only you dislike?

Yo seems like just from this thread I've found some people who agree with me. Admins shouldn't act like there dolls and statues are worth more than anyones, like I said just promotes "OMG I LOVE YOU JENI GIVE ME AN ADMIN HUG" or "OMFG ITZJAKE XD CAN I HAV DOLL PLS". Talon, Who the hell do you think you are to think a doll of an admin is worth more than anyone elses?

The Troll 06-03-2013 03:37 PM

Dolls are prizes? The ****? That pixel BS of nobodies? I might as go on a beer contest with a bum for 10$.

Now that's a prize.

Jeni<3 06-03-2013 03:43 PM

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 361660)
This guy read the last paragraph! Thanks John

@Jeni Yes alot of people play and like the prizes because they think having a doll of some random admin makes them "kul" and gives them "swaq". If you can't give ec why not hats or something with some use to it.

@Snk Yes, it's rather stupid imo to have to provide the statues for the admins to use but that wasn't my main point of the thread, John clarified what I meant basically.



Yo seems like just from this thread I've found some people who agree with me. Admins shouldn't act like there dolls and statues are worth more than anyones, like I said just promotes "OMG I LOVE YOU JENI GIVE ME AN ADMIN HUG" or "OMFG ITZJAKE XD CAN I HAV DOLL PLS". Talon, Who the hell do you think you are to think a doll of an admin is worth more than anyone elses?

I do give hats...I don't do the doll/statue bit as I said. I guess it is up to staff preference what they choose to do incrementally since technically nobody is even required to host events at all.

lord greg 06-03-2013 04:29 PM

Surely the solution is to not do events if you don't like the prizes?

snk 06-03-2013 06:29 PM

That's what I thought @ Greg. Hence the free statue idea

Talon 06-03-2013 07:38 PM

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 361660)
Talon, Who the hell do you think you are to think a doll of an admin is worth more than anyone elses?

I don't, but a large majority of the playerbase that aren't elitist sparrers do.

poorface 06-04-2013 01:58 AM

I have to agree with goten here. Staff (mostly the new ones) throw down doll statues every chance they get and they think players will fawn over them. When I was playing events once, I could've sworn I saw at least 3 statues for 50 dolls each. Some staff even throw them down in the path of races like multirace and force the player in first place to take the doll before continuing and hindering their ability to win.

Spazzbucket 06-04-2013 05:42 PM

This is exactly what I say, I don't see the point in having anything that doesn't give you an advantage I the game, this is why I'm not trying to get supers that aren't melees, they're useless and all they give you is bragging rights. That's not gonna help very much in basing

MonicaLewinsky 06-04-2013 05:46 PM

Atleast they're doing some sort of contest for you guys...

GotenGraal 06-04-2013 05:57 PM

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Posted by lord greg (Post 361698)
Surely the solution is to not do events if you don't like the prizes?

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Posted by snk (Post 361748)
That's what I thought @ Greg. Hence the free statue idea

The point of this thread isn't me raging about the crappy prizes I received. Read the post John said, THAT'S what I was going for. I'd rather the prize be nothing than s*** that just promotes some arrogant fools on a game. Dolls and statues of admins? Wtf these people aren't gods. By giving these out as event prizes it gives players the idea that admins should be worshipped over regular players. It's annoying and some admins just love the attention which makes this even worst.

5hift 06-04-2013 06:19 PM

Ok we clarified what you mean. Now what kind of prizes did you have in mind?

MementoJoker 06-04-2013 06:23 PM

If people think having a doll of someone in a 99 cent game with 1000 players who is probably not of any significance in real life is an achievement they should reevaluate their lives.

MonicaLewinsky 06-04-2013 06:25 PM

Maybe give out special bodies or special heads instead of statues/dolls. Then, only a few people can win them and wear them.

5hift 06-04-2013 06:37 PM

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Posted by Hayze (Post 362316)
Maybe give out special bodies or special heads instead of statues/dolls. Then, only a few people can win them and wear them.

Maybe if you win an event, you can select a certain custom body/head and have the admin give it to you for free?

GotenGraal 06-04-2013 07:36 PM

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Posted by 5hifter (Post 362327)
Maybe if you win an event, you can select a certain custom body/head and have the admin give it to you for free?

That's too complicated. If people want that as prizes the best way would be to give "Free head tokens" or "Free body tokens" which would just be a small coin that would go in your inventory that's untradable and undroppable. It would just allow one free upload of any head or body of your choosing (depending which token it is to determine if you get a head or body). It would be rather simple, when you upload the body and get the confirmation it would give you two payment methods. The gralats, or the custom token. This would be much simpler and would require admins to do no work. But this won't happen anyway so the best prizes for admin hosted events that aren't at the event house like hide n seek would be hats. Ec works too.

Shadow King 06-04-2013 08:26 PM

People take this game serious...

Billy 06-04-2013 08:57 PM

How about a hat token. 1 personal hat upload. (has to stay rare)

Shock 06-04-2013 09:26 PM

Why do you care about these events so bad? They tell you what you're playing for before you participate.

I think tokens are still kind of complicated. It'd be one more special thing to hand out. What about playing for a stock of useful items? Like 100 hamburgers, throwing knives or frag grenades? No more hats, no more GFX. That's bs.

Rozen S 06-04-2013 11:23 PM

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Posted by Shadow King (Post 362366)
People take this game serious...

Noticed that a long time ago.

Ritchie 06-04-2013 11:41 PM

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Posted by Rozen S (Post 362452)
Noticed that a long time ago.

ikr just leave graal and come to the pokemon world

Kyle Kol 06-05-2013 03:50 AM

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 362349)
That's too complicated. If people want that as prizes the best way would be to give "Free head tokens" or "Free body tokens" which would just be a small coin that would go in your inventory that's untradable and undroppable. It would just allow one free upload of any head or body of your choosing (depending which token it is to determine if you get a head or body). It would be rather simple, when you upload the body and get the confirmation it would give you two payment methods. The gralats, or the custom token. This would be much simpler and would require admins to do no work. But this won't happen anyway so the best prizes for admin hosted events that aren't at the event house like hide n seek would be hats. Ec works too.

You know what that reminds me of? This post:

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Posted by Jeni<3 (Post 361635)
So here is the dilemma...we can only do so many events with ec yet players spam nonstop wanting more events or us to host something for them to do so we try to get creative. Personally, I give dolls and statues upon request so there is zero motivation for anyone to want to do a thing to earn them, so when I do non-traditional events I give a special unsold hat as a prize. I completely get the worshipping perception and agree that is really unnecessary but like anything else who are we to tell people how to feel about us good or bad? At the end of the day, just don't participate as we always will announce ahead of time what the prize is in these circumstances. I understand you don't like it but there is always a huge turnout indicating enough players actually appreciate the activity.

If these "free custom tokens" were to be created, no doubt, they would be implemented with rules just like Event Coins, due to how valuable they are. There would be a limit. Then players would spam the staff afterwards, causing the same dilemma that was bugging you in the first place. They would give away dolls and statues in hide and seek events. Happy now?

MariahNicole 06-05-2013 06:07 AM

I won that too :3 found em in the power plant.

Myst 06-05-2013 01:51 PM

same with me

lord greg 06-05-2013 04:47 PM

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Posted by MariahNicole (Post 362589)
I won that too :3 found em in the power plant.

gtfo attention seeking brat.

Anyway yeah you do events for fun so why does the prize bother you so much? Some people might want dolls when others don't. You can't keep everyone happy.

failure 06-05-2013 05:54 PM

If you don't like the prizes don't play...
If they were to give free hats and customs and stuff, then staff would get even more spam about hosting or whatever.
I agree that staff shouldn't give out dolls or statues, but many players like to worship those in command. As poorface said, staff should definitely not throw down those doll statues so often, because it impedes other players who aren't interested in dolls or don't even own dolls.
I think that staff shouldn't be allowed to give statues or dolls out at all, all it inspires is worship and butt kissing.

99% 06-05-2013 05:56 PM

Christ. Ever occurred to you to think before you complain? 'Course not.

How hard is it to not participate in an event when told that the prize is a doll and/or statue, which you just so happen to find useless? Not that goddamn complicated, I can assure you. I mean, why the hell would you waste your bloody time searching for a "stupid, dumb, useless" admin, who is giving out equally "stupid, dumb, useless" dolls, when you can do something else?

You want to get "useful things" from events? Wait until they host events at the damned event house. Then you can go play for some event coins you can use towards a weapon purchase. Too lazy to do that, and want them to keep pumping out items and event coins 24/7? Suck it the hell up, and deal with earning items the hard way.

For every person here who so blindly complains about dolls' and statues' worthlessness, I can produce ten, no twenty, people who happily collect such things and will fight your blindly biased asses tooth to nail.

It's one thing to complain about staff obstructing races and what not with doll statues, but to try and annex all doll giving just because you find that particular function useless? Give me a break, and take your redundancy elsewhere.

GotenGraal 06-06-2013 03:35 AM

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Posted by 99% (Post 362772)
Christ. Ever occurred to you to think before you complain? 'Course not.

How hard is it to not participate in an event when told that the prize is a doll and/or statue, which you just so happen to find useless? Not that goddamn complicated, I can assure you. I mean, why the hell would you waste your bloody time searching for a "stupid, dumb, useless" admin, who is giving out equally "stupid, dumb, useless" dolls, when you can do something else?

You want to get "useful things" from events? Wait until they host events at the damned event house. Then you can go play for some event coins you can use towards a weapon purchase. Too lazy to do that, and want them to keep pumping out items and event coins 24/7? Suck it the hell up, and deal with earning items the hard way.

For every person here who so blindly complains about dolls' and statues' worthlessness, I can produce ten, no twenty, people who happily collect such things and will fight your blindly biased asses tooth to nail.

It's one thing to complain about staff obstructing races and what not with doll statues, but to try and annex all doll giving just because you find that particular function useless? Give me a break, and take your redundancy elsewhere.

Hold up let me help you. *pulls your head out of admin's ass*. But for real kiddo you're missing the point. Yeah the people who like the dolls that you can show me are like 10 years old who have there minds confused that having dolls of admins and statues makes them "cool". Read John's post. I don't care about my bad prizes, I'm bringing up the point that the prizes promote admin worshipping and ass kissing as if the admins are better than regular players. You're a perfect example of one of these kids who worship the admins.

Oh and also why are u raging and going full megatron ****** spazz attack on an online thread about a game?? Chill out man we're entitled to our opinions, no need to be a spazz cause u disagree lol.

99% 06-06-2013 01:31 PM

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 363027)
Hold up let me help you. *pulls your head out of admin's ass*. But for real kiddo you're missing the point. Yeah the people who like the dolls that you can show me are like 10 years old who have there minds confused that having dolls of admins and statues makes them "cool". Read John's post. I don't care about my bad prizes, I'm bringing up the point that the prizes promote admin worshipping and ass kissing as if the admins are better than regular players. You're a perfect example of one of these kids who worship the admins.

Oh and also why are u raging and going full megatron ****** spazz attack on an online thread about a game?? Chill out man we're entitled to our opinions, no need to be a spazz cause u disagree lol.

I don't kiss up to staff. If you thought things through before making foolish statements, you'd realize I'm often the first to criticize iEra and it's staff team...when the point is valid of course. (Oh my. Complaining about valid points! That must be something new to you!)

If people think that having dolls and statues of staff make them cool, then in a way they are absolutely correct, because having said things are viewed as cool by them and others who think the same. Every one is entitled to their own opinions, right?

Dolls and statues are a great function. Hell, it's one of the few features that iEra hasn't screwed up during one point or the other. If you believe that dolls and statues promote admin worship, then screw it. Let them promote sticking your head up admin's pixelated asses for all I care. Fact of the matter is more often than not, the staff team deserves the praise. When I read your initial post, I saw more administrator hate then a significant problem with the doll and statue system.

Now before you call me an "Admin ass-kisser" or a "perfect example of an admin worshiper", understand I have and periodically continue to develop for Graal servers, so I know exactly how frustrating it is to put in hours upon hours of volunteer work, just to bring little sh*ts like you this game. And then all the frustration, also voluntarily dealt with, to deal with all the minor (and most often, non-existent) problems some players like you always nag about.
If you want to call me an "admin's b*tch", for understanding what staff have to go through most of the time, and taking their side in this one be my guest.

Besides, when you made this thread you called it an Era Rant. Expect to ranted back at when you slip and say something stupid.

GotenGraal 06-06-2013 05:31 PM

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Posted by 99% (Post 363175)
I don't kiss up to staff. If you thought things through before making foolish statements, you'd realize I'm often the first to criticize iEra and it's staff team...when the point is valid of course. (Oh my. Complaining about valid points! That must be something new to you!)

If people think that having dolls and statues of staff make them cool, then in a way they are absolutely correct, because having said things are viewed as cool by them and others who think the same. Every one is entitled to their own opinions, right?

Dolls and statues are a great function. Hell, it's one of the few features that iEra hasn't screwed up during one point or the other. If you believe that dolls and statues promote admin worship, then screw it. Let them promote sticking your head up admin's pixelated asses for all I care. Fact of the matter is more often than not, the staff team deserves the praise. When I read your initial post, I saw more administrator hate then a significant problem with the doll and statue system.

Now before you call me an "Admin ass-kisser" or a "perfect example of an admin worshiper", understand I have and periodically continue to develop for Graal servers, so I know exactly how frustrating it is to put in hours upon hours of volunteer work, just to bring little sh*ts like you this game. And then all the frustration, also voluntarily dealt with, to deal with all the minor (and most often, non-existent) problems some players like you always nag about.
If you want to call me an "admin's b*tch", for understanding what staff have to go through most of the time, and taking their side in this one be my guest.

Besides, when you made this thread you called it an Era Rant. Expect to ranted back at when you slip and say something stupid.

Skimmed through some of this and yo my point is pretty valid several people agree with me plz don't rage and be butthurt because you disagree man thx. Go play with ur dolls and hug ur admin statues than raging at me lol.

99% 06-06-2013 05:58 PM

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 363224)
Skimmed through some of this and yo my point is pretty valid several people agree with me plz don't rage and be butthurt because you disagree man thx. Go play with ur dolls and hug ur admin statues than raging at me lol.

I'll assume you've seen your folly and given up then. Haha.
Anyways, there's always a few people who hop on the bandwagon for a stupid idea. I mean...look at George Bush Jr. It was a stupid idea to give him Presidency, but a few fools jumped on that bandwagon.
Bye now.

GotenGraal 06-06-2013 06:48 PM

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Posted by 99% (Post 363232)
I'll assume you've seen your folly and given up then. Haha.
Anyways, there's always a few people who hop on the bandwagon for a stupid idea. I mean...look at George Bush Jr. It was a stupid idea to give him Presidency, but a few fools jumped on that bandwagon.
Bye now.

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