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iHot 05-07-2013 04:47 AM

American hatred towards Muslims?
 
Being Muslim myself I've heard my fair share of **** talking from others and the Boston Bombings don't help either. I've been wondering why is it that a lot of Americans hate Muslims but yet it's a crime when Muslims hate America? Don't get me wrong I'm proud to live in America and to be an American, I'm better off than a lot of other people in this world.

Anyways I kind of wanna get your guys' opinion on this. By the way here is a video of a bunch of good people standing up to an idiot named Terry Jones who burned the Holy Quran and preaches about the "evil" of Islam.

Crono 05-07-2013 04:55 AM

everybody hates fundemental and extremist muslims.

with that said, the stereotypical muslim reacts the worse of the three to global events and things of the sort. the reaction to the danish cartoons was priceless.

MrSimons 05-07-2013 04:59 AM

My dad is the kind of "Obama is a ****ing terrorist Islam is working it's way into america and is gonna kill us all." kind of person. And pretty much all I can understand is:

911 = Muslims attacking america
Boston Marathon = Muslims attacking america
(My dad's exact words to me were "you know, I'm really not surprised that it was muslims who attacked the marathon, I can't see how you can possibly, at this point in time, say Islam is in anyway peaceful")

And like most middle age men raised in the south, that's all it takes to make the entire muslim population, democratic party, and middle east into a bunch of terrorists. And I'm not judging but a lot of islamic beliefs don't help, nor would the boston marathon. Tbh I think it's just intolerance and the way people are being raised, I mean people are literally brought up learning that Islam is bad, and y'know no one would lie to a child so it must be true.

GOAT 05-07-2013 05:07 AM

Couple points
1. what do you expect of white Americans?
2.most ******ed Americans hear muslims and they think Arabic which takes them to 9/11 (like if all arab people were part of the attacks)
3. most of America loves Muhammad Ali (Muslim)
4. every minority race in America has gone through some type of hatred in the usa

Heres a video of a comedian that kind of talks about how the media manipulates things

DragonRider 05-07-2013 06:44 AM

Allah Ackbar
It's because if 9/11, people still havent got over it and will never forgive the Muslims.

SerialAmphibian 05-07-2013 07:55 AM

There are some lines you just can't cross
Spoiler
like the finish line

Imprint 05-07-2013 12:20 PM

Stupidity coupled with 9/11.

MementoJoker 05-07-2013 02:59 PM

Yeah the 1.6 Billion adherents of Islam are all psychotic extremist suicide bombers!

Xavier 05-07-2013 04:52 PM

I blame FOX News. Here's a clip from the Daily Show showing some examples, taken from the FOX news team discussing the recent events in Boston:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/we...k-constitution

I would recommend watching the entire clip, but start at 5:15 if you want to cut to the chase. It's just disgusting how racist FOX News is in this video.

NCJohn 05-07-2013 05:49 PM

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Posted by Xavier (Post 345657)
I blame FOX News. Here's a clip from the Daily Show showing some examples, taken from the FOX news team discussing the recent events in Boston:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/we...k-constitution

I would recommend watching the entire clip, but start at 5:15 if you want to cut to the chase. It's just disgusting how racist FOX News is in this video.

Liberal news networks have the same sort of crap. It isn't due to political view points; but instead it just is due to ignorance in post-9/11 society.

lord greg 05-07-2013 05:54 PM

I assume it is due mainly to steriotyping. People think of things like 9 11 and decide all Muslims are to blame.

Rexx 05-07-2013 05:54 PM

Extremists and terrorists that justify their acts with religion.
Its unfortunate that the rest of the Muslims suffer because of these people.

K!LLA KEV 05-07-2013 07:05 PM

http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/0ea/553...1311347523.jpg

not all muslins are terrorists, but just saying

GOAT 05-07-2013 07:15 PM

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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 345723)
http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/0ea/553...1311347523.jpg

not all muslins are terrorists, but just saying

just saying what? what’s the point of your post and where did you get your stats from. don’t tell me you just goggled terrorist memes

Pimpsy G. 05-07-2013 07:17 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 345504)
Couple points
1. what do you expect of white Americans?
2.most ******ed Americans hear muslims and they think Arabic which takes them to 9/11 (like if all arab people were part of the attacks)
3. most of America loves Muhammad Ali (Muslim)
4. every minority race in America has gone through some type of hatred in the usa


So your plan is to respond to hate with more hate? How does that work? If anything you're just showing that you're no better than the people that stereotype Muslims.

GOAT 05-07-2013 07:20 PM

how am i responding with hate. is anything i said said a lie?

Pimpsy G. 05-07-2013 07:23 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 345730)
how am i responding with hate. is anything i said said a lie?

No, its not a lie, and its not a truth. Its an opinion that is discriminatory towards a group of of people. Its amazing how in the face of prejudice people sometimes can't even realize that they are being prejudice themselves.

GOAT 05-07-2013 07:30 PM

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Posted by Pimpsy G. (Post 345733)
No, its not a lie, and its not a truth. Its an opinion that is discriminatory towards a group of of people. Its amazing how in the face of prejudice people sometimes can't even realize that they are being prejudice themselves.

Ya im prejudice to my fellow Americans dude. And who am I discriminating? And which of my points is not truth?

Pimpsy G. 05-07-2013 07:32 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 345735)
Ya im prejudice to my fellow Americans dude. And who am I discriminating? And which of my points is not truth?

Every minority group that has held a significant amount of a population has gone through some form of hate anywhere with anyone. Its just how human social groups work. Its not just with "White Americans" that are "******ed". The only difference here is that the United States has been home to far more immigration from around the world than most countries in history. So yes, what you said could be vaguely interpreted as a valid point. But its the direction that you're taking it in which is discriminatory because you're singling out white Americans as if they are some sort of racist group.

GOAT 05-07-2013 07:51 PM

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Posted by Pimpsy G. (Post 345737)
Every minority group that has held a significant amount of a population has gone through some form of hate anywhere with anyone. Its just how human social groups work. Its not just with "White Americans" that are "******ed". The only difference here is that the United States has been home to far more immigration from around the world than most countries in history. So yes, what you said could be vaguely interpreted as a valid point. But its the direction that you're taking it in which is discriminatory because you're singling out white Americans as if they are some sort of racist group.

That’s not discriminatory it’s just how it is. You ask them brothers from Mississippi if im lying.

Pimpsy G. 05-07-2013 07:59 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 345751)
That’s not discriminatory it’s just how it is. You ask them brothers from Mississippi if im lying.

It's not because they're white or because of their culture, if that's what you're saying. Its happening because when there's a minority group in anything they are always looked upon differently. It could happen in any country if that country had similar levels of immigration as the US? That's your point... right? If you think it is because they are white Americans than you are, in fact, discriminating. That is what you made your first post sound like at least to me.

K!LLA KEV 05-07-2013 08:14 PM

lol wow i started flame war, how typical of me

WMS 05-07-2013 09:45 PM

1 Attachment(s)
This is a pie chart of terrorist events from 1980-2005.

K!LLA KEV 05-07-2013 09:52 PM

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Posted by WMS (Post 345811)
This is a pie chart of terrorist events from 1980-2005.

dam latinos

MattKan 05-07-2013 09:55 PM

Extremism is to Islam as Westboro Baptist Church is to Christianity.

K!LLA KEV 05-07-2013 10:00 PM

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Posted by MattKan (Post 345823)
Extremism is to Islam as Westboro Baptist Church is to Christianity.

not really, cuz westboro baptist church is relatively unknown to a majority of the world, and is a very small tiny ofshoot branch of chrisitanity..oh & they dont blow themselves up or kill thousands of people. (no matter how twisted their views are)

now islamic extermism, thats a different story.

iHot 05-07-2013 10:27 PM

But what about that evil white guy Adam Lanza who decided to go into a school and kill over a dozen innocent children. What about Columbine and the Bath school incident? What about James Holmes who walked into a movie theater and killed innocent people. But why is it that when a Muslim does something it's breaking news for weeks, sometimes months?! To think people want us peaceful Muslims to APOLOGIZE for these extremists!

Now Boston is protesting that Tsnarev is going to be buried on American soil. Was anyone stalling Lanza's or Holmes' burial? NO. It's all hatred just because of race. Everyone is looking for something to be offended by.

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Posted by CourierSix (Post 345624)
Yeah the 1.6 Billion adherents of Islam are all psychotic extremist suicide bombers!

Lol.

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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 345723)
http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/0ea/553...1311347523.jpg

not all muslins are terrorists, but just saying

Ok because everything on a meme is true.

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 345498)
My dad is the kind of "Obama is a ****ing terrorist Islam is working it's way into america and is gonna kill us all." kind of person. And pretty much all I can understand is:

911 = Muslims attacking america
Boston Marathon = Muslims attacking america
(My dad's exact words to me were "you know, I'm really not surprised that it was muslims who attacked the marathon, I can't see how you can possibly, at this point in time, say Islam is in anyway peaceful")

And like most middle age men raised in the south, that's all it takes to make the entire muslim population, democratic party, and middle east into a bunch of terrorists. And I'm not judging but a lot of islamic beliefs don't help, nor would the boston marathon. Tbh I think it's just intolerance and the way people are being raised, I mean people are literally brought up learning that Islam is bad, and y'know no one would lie to a child so it must be true.

Well looks like your dad has the honor of representing ignorant Americans!

K!LLA KEV 05-07-2013 10:28 PM

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Posted by iHot (Post 345851)
But what about that evil white guy Adam Lanza who decided to go into a school and kill over a dozen innocent children. What about Columbine and the Bath school incident? What about James Holmes who walked into a movie theater and killed innocent people. But why is it that when a Muslim does something it's breaking news for weeks, sometimes months?! To think people want us peaceful Muslims to APOLOGIZE for these extremists!

Now Boston is protesting that Tsnarev is going to be buried on American soil. Was anyone stalling Lanza's or Holmes' burial? NO. It's all hatred just because of race. Everyone is looking for something to be offended by.


Lol.

no one expects you to apologize, difference between those you listed and the islamic extremists is the extremists do it in the name of religion, and also engage in WAR with countries over their beliefs, and there is also thousands of them, while the ones you listed are just indiviual psychopaths.

iHot 05-07-2013 10:31 PM

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Posted by DragonRider (Post 345536)
Allah Ackbar
It's because if 9/11, people still havent got over it and will never forgive the Muslims.

2 years after 9/11 Bush kills over 200,000 Iraqi citizens over the course of the war as well as many American lives. In the end America finds no WMD's and says "Sorry". Yet when 2 people are killed at the Boston Marathon (not to sound insensitive) IT'S ALL OH MY GOD OH MY GOD!!

K!LLA KEV 05-07-2013 10:35 PM

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Posted by iHot (Post 345854)
2 years after 9/11 Bush kills over 200,000 Iraqi citizens over the course of the war as well as many American lives. In the end America finds no WMD's and says "Sorry". Yet when 2 people are killed at the Boston Marathon (not to sound insensitive) IT'S ALL OH MY GOD OH MY GOD!!

its always blame bush lol if the middle east wasnt such a whacked out, backwards region, who still think we are in the dark ages or whatever, (and run their countries that way), with murderous dictators WHO KILL THEIR OWN PEOPLE, and terrorists WHO KILL THEIR OWN PEOPLE, and THEN OTHER PEOPLE, & then claim its all in the name of "allah", well we wouldnt be having this conversation.

& have some respect. not only did 3* people die but 200+ people where injured, and multiple people loss limbs and are fxcked up for life, and they where just trying to a run a fxcking marathon.. get real, you belong in that sh1thole region.

iHot 05-07-2013 10:36 PM

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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 345853)
no one expects you to apologize, difference between those you listed and the islamic extremists is the extremists do it in the name of religion, and also engage in WAR with countries over their beliefs, and there is also thousands of them, while the ones you listed are just indiviual psychopaths.

The thing is people are to ignorant to realize that these are NOT MUSLIMS. These are terroists who deserve to die a slow and painful death. Al Qaeda, The Taliban, Hamas etc. Also people are misinformed about Jihad. Jihad isn't holy war it is defense of the Islamic State against things like invaders and those who threaten the Islamic state. No one is forcing anyone to convert to Islam.

GOAT 05-07-2013 10:36 PM

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Posted by Pimpsy G. (Post 345757)
It's not because they're white or because of their culture, if that's what you're saying. Its happening because when there's a minority group in anything they are always looked upon differently. It could happen in any country if that country had similar levels of immigration as the US? That's your point... right? If you think it is because they are white Americans than you are, in fact, discriminating. That is what you made your first post sound like at least to me.

If the point was to win the argument I would denied that they thought that way because they were white. The point is to keep it real and speak the truth and it just so happens that my statement about dumb white Americans is true.(I never said all white Americans were dumb neither in case this is what’s confusing you) The reason why they think like that is beyond me, I never said they think like that because they were white.
Also if I used Americans its because that’s what the thread title asked for.
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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 345769)
lol wow i started flame war, how typical of me

2 posts and your stupidity already has me intrigued. Please explain to me how you started a “flame” war on this thread. I’m a little slow so sometimes it needs to broken down for me.
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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 345827)
not really, cuz westboro baptist church is relatively unknown to a majority of the world, and is a very small tiny ofshoot branch of chrisitanity..oh & they dont blow themselves up or kill thousands of people. (no matter how twisted their views are)

now islamic extermism, thats a different story.

where are they blowing themselves?
Where are they killing thousands of people?
Is this happening in America?
Im confused

K!LLA KEV 05-07-2013 10:46 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 345859)
2 posts and your stupidity already has me intrigued. Please explain to me how you started a “flame” war on this thread. I’m a little slow so sometimes it needs to broken down for me.

no one cares dude, it was a joke, your insults mean nothing to me.

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Posted by GOAT (Post 345859)
where are they blowing themselves?
Where are they killing thousands of people?
Is this happening in America?
Im confused

and i was talking about Matt comparing the westboro baptist church to islamic extremists, which was stupid.

MrSimons 05-07-2013 10:47 PM

I just realized that as I was reading this thread I was listening to this song.


Anyway, where are you guys getting all of these pictures?

GOAT 05-07-2013 10:47 PM

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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 345860)
no one cares dude. your insults mean nothing to me.

yet you cared enough to reply :love::love:
i care thats why Im asking. You want to act like a dumbass well I can play dumbass all day baby. Pls amuse me

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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 345860)
and i was talking about Matt comparing the westboro baptist church to islamic extremists, which was stupid.

I know you were comparing it to matt by using those examples which made your case stronger. So I asked you where was all that happening

K!LLA KEV 05-07-2013 10:53 PM

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Posted by iHot (Post 345858)
The thing is people are to ignorant to realize that these are NOT MUSLIMS. These are terroists who deserve to die a slow and painful death. Al Qaeda, The Taliban, Hamas etc. Also people are misinformed about Jihad. Jihad isn't holy war it is defense of the Islamic State against things like invaders and those who threaten the Islamic state. No one is forcing anyone to convert to Islam.

well they still are techincally "muslims" , who use islam in their defense, thats the difference, your not really making sense talking about converting to islam, because no one is trying to convert any islamic states into any other religion.

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Posted by GOAT (Post 345866)
yet you cared enough to reply :love::love:
i care thats why Im asking. You want to act like a dumbass well I can play dumbass all day baby. Pls amuse me


I know you were comparing it to matt by using those examples which made your case stronger. So I asked you where was all that happening

you need better things to do

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Posted by GOAT (Post 345866)
yet you cared enough to reply :love::love:
i care thats why Im asking. You want to act like a dumbass well I can play dumbass all day baby. Pls amuse me


I know you were comparing it to matt by using those examples which made your case stronger. So I asked you where was all that happening

lol dude if you dont know where thats happening, you need to leave this thread .

MrSimons 05-07-2013 10:53 PM

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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 345857)
its always blame bush lol if the middle east wasnt such a whacked out, backwards region, who still think we are in the dark ages or whatever, (and run their countries that way), with murderous dictators WHO KILL THEIR OWN PEOPLE, and terrorists WHO KILL THEIR OWN PEOPLE, and THEN OTHER PEOPLE, & then claim its all in the name of "allah", well we wouldnt be having this conversation.

& have some respect. not only did 3* people die but 200+ people where injured, and multiple people loss limbs and are fxcked up for life, and they where just trying to a run a fxcking marathon.. get real, you belong in that sh1thole region.

1, the middle east isn't a religion, it is an area... And two, have some respect? You've gotta be ****ing kidding me. There were less than 300 casualties at the boston marathon, the majority not even being too insanely awful (you can thank the bombers for that) while at the same time Baghdad is being bombed, with over 300 hundred casualties, half of those being fatal, and that didn't even make it to the news. "Get real" your american problems are insignificant and the fact that you think you can use the Boston Marathon to argue Islam being bad is ridiculous.

K!LLA KEV 05-07-2013 10:54 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 345870)
1, the middle east isn't a religion, it is an area... And two, have some respect? You've gotta be ****ing kidding me. There were less than 300 casualties at the boston marathon, the majority not even being too insanely awful (you can thank the bombers for that) while at the same time Baghdad is being bombed, with over 300 hundred casualties, half of those being fatal, and that didn't even make it to the news. "Get real" your american problems are insignificant and the fact that you think you can use the Boston Marathon to argue Islam being bad is ridiculous.

its a REGION**** read, think, read again, then post. and i didnt use boston marathon to argue islam is bad at all, stfu dude seriously sound like an idiot. your not even reading what im saying.

MrSimons 05-07-2013 10:54 PM

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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 345867)
because no one is trying to convert any islamic states into any other religion.

Have you ever heard of 'Christianity'?

K!LLA KEV 05-07-2013 10:57 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 345872)
Have you ever heard of 'Christianity'?

what??? the crusades 2000 years ago?!

MrSimons 05-07-2013 10:57 PM

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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 345871)
and i didnt use boston marathon to argue islam is bad at all, stfu dude seriously sound like an idiot. your not even reading what im saying.

This entire post is doing that.

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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 345857)
its always blame bush lol if the middle east wasnt such a whacked out, backwards region, who still think we are in the dark ages or whatever, (and run their countries that way), with murderous dictators WHO KILL THEIR OWN PEOPLE, and terrorists WHO KILL THEIR OWN PEOPLE, and THEN OTHER PEOPLE, & then claim its all in the name of "allah", well we wouldnt be having this conversation.

& have some respect. not only did 3* people die but 200+ people where injured, and multiple people loss limbs and are fxcked up for life, and they where just trying to a run a fxcking marathon.. get real, you belong in that sh1thole region.

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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 345874)
what??? the crusades 2000 years ago?!

Where did I say anything about the crusades?

K!LLA KEV 05-07-2013 10:59 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 345876)
This entire post is doing that.





Where did I say anything about the crusades?

i was talking about the REGION*** of the MIDDLE EAST, and the way their LEADERS run countries (such as saddam did and iran's fxcktard does) and what TERRORISTS do and believe.

GOAT 05-07-2013 11:01 PM

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Posted by iHot (Post 345851)
But what about that evil white guy Adam Lanza who decided to go into a school and kill over a dozen innocent children. What about Columbine and the Bath school incident? What about James Holmes who walked into a movie theater and killed innocent people. But why is it that when a Muslim does something it's breaking news for weeks, sometimes months?! To think people want us peaceful Muslims to APOLOGIZE for these extremists!
Now Boston is protesting that Tsnarev is going to be buried on American soil. Was anyone stalling Lanza's or Holmes' burial? NO. It's all hatred just because of race. Everyone is looking for something to be offended by.
Well looks like your dad has the honor of representing ignorant Americans!

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Posted by iHot (Post 345854)
2 years after 9/11 Bush kills over 200,000 Iraqi citizens over the course of the war as well as many American lives. In the end America finds no WMD's and says "Sorry". Yet when 2 people are killed at the Boston Marathon (not to sound insensitive) IT'S ALL OH MY GOD OH MY GOD!!

Pimpsy used this on me but it looks like its more suited for you iHot. You might want to read it.
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Posted by Pimpsy G. (Post 345733)
. Its amazing how in the face of prejudice people sometimes can't even realize that they are being prejudice themselves.

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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 345867)
you need better things to do
nothing is better than making time for u killa kev
lol dude if you dont know where thats happening, you need to leave this thread .
must be in the east coast or the dirty south Im a look into it


MrSimons 05-07-2013 11:02 PM

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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 345879)
i was talking about the REGION*** of the MIDDLE EAST, and the way their LEADERS run countries (such as saddam did and iran's fxcktard does) and what TERRORISTS do and believe.

Well this thread is about Islam, not the middle east, that plus how you capitalize every other ****ING WORD makes IT hard to UNDERSTAND WHAT the **** YOU are TRYING TO SAY.

Jester Lapse 05-07-2013 11:06 PM

Humans in general like to generalize people and put them into groups. This allows for issues to be looked at more simply, although mostly incorrect. This leads to stereotyping, racism, sexism and other actions where people are grouped based solely on opinion. And no, it's not just white people who do these things, practically all humans do.

It is really unfortunate because this starts a cycle. As people look onto others expecting them to be something they are not, they can change into it. For example, people looking onto Muslims as terrorists and bombers, some people can just be like "**** it, that's what you want? I'll give it to you". It is a terrible cycle.

Plus, people also like to feel superior in a way, putting others down based on these ridiculous stereotypes is a way for them to feel above someone, or in this case, a whole race.

K!LLA KEV 05-07-2013 11:07 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 345882)
Well this thread is about Islam, not the middle east, that plus how you capitalize every other ****ING WORD makes IT hard to UNDERSTAND WHAT the **** YOU are TRYING TO SAY.

thats because i wasnt talking to you, hard to fully understand when you just chime in on a conversation between two people when you didnt fully read what I said or what we where talking about.

MattKan 05-07-2013 11:10 PM

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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 345827)
not really, cuz westboro baptist church is relatively unknown to a majority of the world, and is a very small tiny ofshoot branch of chrisitanity..oh & they dont blow themselves up or kill thousands of people. (no matter how twisted their views are)

now islamic extermism, thats a different story.

You're supporting my point. Islamic Extremism is extremely severe compared to Islam. Most of us see Westboro Baptist Church as bad, and most of them see extremism as even worse.

K!LLA KEV 05-07-2013 11:14 PM

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Posted by MattKan (Post 345889)
You're supporting my point. Islamic Extremism is extremely severe compared to Islam. Most of us see Westboro Baptist Church as bad, and most of them see extremism as even worse.

but you compared the two in a way as if they where equal.
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Posted by MattKan (Post 345823)
Extremism is to Islam as Westboro Baptist Church is to Christianity.

they are not equal.

MrSimons 05-07-2013 11:36 PM

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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 345886)
thats because i wasnt talking to you, hard to fully understand when you just chime in on a conversation between two people when you didnt fully read what I said or what we where talking about.

Do you think I just scrolled to the bottom of the second page and read your post ignoring every single other thing posted in the entire thread? And the whole conversation has been about Islam, not the middle east...

Rotaruc 05-08-2013 02:24 AM

A Terrorist can be anyone but usually in the US they are muslims from some America Hater club in the middle east. dont take it personal lol im mexican and hear jokes about mexicans but i honestly dont care because the people laughing at racist jokes r just immature and idiotic. "how can you tell if a black has been on your computer?" .... "its not there". That "joke" is not a a joke at all. its an just stupid and hateful. another example: The mountain dew commercial. look it up and tell me thats not somewhat offense towards african americans.


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