PBP Shotgun
 

M3 5000$

Shoots 4 bullets each doing 4 Damage
Does Stack damage

PBP Shotgun 125000$

Shoots 4 Bullets each doing 3 Damage
Does Stack
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What the hell is this? PBP was 8 damage then it became 4 and eventually it became 3!!??? I can live with 5 or 6 BUT WITH 3????? M3 is only 5000! and its almost the same as PBP if you wana make the PBP that weak to a level that a 5000 cheap noob gun can beat it then delete the GUN! there is no point of players paying 125000 for a gun that became that weak either change the price or at least increase the damage I know a few people might have posted the same thing already but seriously guys just tell me what you think and what should be done. Thank you

Its cuz PBP is OP

Deal with it

ask Meph* he's the gun admin

ugh, another one of these threads, look, this will no longer be a issue as meph told me himself he was going to nerf shotguns to high damage (pbp max at 8) and no stack damage

This is kinda ****ty lol

IKR FKING REFUND MINE I SWEAR!!!!!

If they didnt change it to 3 it will be realy op

Yea m3 got higer damage but its slow and has low fring rate

pbp has low damage coz it shoots realy fast

Nerf the M3, it sucks because it's relatively cheap and pretty overpowered... Nearly everyone uses one now and in my opinion it's even better than a pbp... Nerf the pbp ánd the M3, that would be a good solution in my opinion

Well the PBP is good the way it is now. Nerf the M3 though. Or just delete the weapon, give everyone a full refund, and release it, making it more expensive.

Pbp is pretty fast, has a lot less freeze than m3, and has a glitch where you can kill people as soon as they respawn after they are dead. Shut up about the pbp being OP.

Look at the price of the PBP. It is at a high value. Being that the PBP is so good as a weapon makes sense being at 125,000 gralats. The M3 however is at 5,000 meaning that it should be not as good as the PBP. But the problem lies within the stats that a 125,000 gun us just as good as a 5,000 gun.

your a idiot if you think the M3 is OP. Sure M3 deals more damage than a PBP. But the PBP has a way faster time to kill, less freeze, larger clip, faster ROF, and a fast as hell reload for a shotgun.

The only up side to M3 is the 20 damage. Now quit whining that you get beaten by a lower class gun seesh.

Meph is just fking guns up why they hire him?

Because they werent going to hire a dumbass like you.

Real talk^^^
M3 has a terrible amount of freeze. Pbp STILL owns in pk so stop complaining.

8 damage bullets!

NO STACK!

PBP is good because it kills before you can even move at respawn fully.
Why won't you guys just learn skill?

PBP: if I hit you with all my bullets, I do 16 damage.

why is it so nerfed omg omg *whine* *whine*
By the way no one here wants a refund but your
Mothers purse.

Can a mod close this? The forums is not the right place to whine about your problems.

*waits for redboy to post*

Seriously, you might want to gtfo. Meph has turned into a "obama" says he will change things for the better, does at first, but then after all that change For the better nothing happens and big issues dont get delt with (ex SHOTGUNS)

hell yeah, replace meph lol"...

I seriously don't understand you.

How can you "learn skill?" You also asked me to "learn maturity." What?

This topic angered me to the point I quit a while ago. Take a tip from me and quit giving this freak show of a game your time and money.

Nerf the m3 accordingly to the pbp nerf.

Just take stacked damage off the shotguns overall. Don't complain about the pbp, it is way "op'd" and there's no way in hell it should be buffed.

Shut the fuuuckk up,kids who think PBP sucks are so bad,quit whining. It takes absolutely no skill to get a 3 shot kill. I honestly think m3 should be deleted because it wont fit into the game with this upcoming suggestion. MAKE PBP 8 DAMAGE NO STACK LIKE IT WAS BEFORE,THAT WAS PERFECT,I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO USED PBP WHEN IT WAS DECENT,NOW ITS FREAKING OP AS SHET TO THE POINT WHERE A PERSON WITH 3 HOURS ITUNES IT.. Sorry for the caps.

You can learn to be skilled, and you can learn to be more mature.

just remove both guns.

Someone wants to spam.
Use the search function.
Anyways, the M3 is slower and has a smaller clip. The PBP is much faster and has a big clip. Try gaining some skill before complaining.

Meph is no longer the gun admin, ask BitZsam for a change.

wait, can ppl get refunds on guns?
id like to refund my m16, aug, tec9, ab8, m8a1 and adaptive combat rifle

I logged on for this comment only..

I always thought that Ketso down on Zodiac was ******ed because he'd always nerf a class that was powerful, or nerf a weapon that was great.. But in reality, he's actually doing a great job at keeping Zodiac balanced in terms of weapons and classes. Hell, he's been doing it for YEARS!

As for Meph, he's doing alright with gun balancing. However, one of the big issues with what he did is like what happened on Era not that long ago; some guns became over powered and worth 250k+ (When they were only worth 2k at the time), and others like the MP5 Navy went from 900k to roughly 200k. All of this happened abruptly and without warning (Save for a few lucky staff members who bought up a bunch of Famases 'n such and got quite rich)

In my opinion, there should at least be a warning about drastic changes like that.

PBP..Sigh. All I can say.

If that we're possible >.>

:/.

My opinion,
nerf M3
or
delete M3.

Agreed

just raise the price..

lol like m4

once again as i said. Your idiots if you think the M3 is OP. Sure its annoying as hell and more damage, but the PBP has a way faster time to kill, larger clip, less freeze, fast reload, and a higher rate of fire. STFU about M3 being OP. Seeesh
You might as well nerf the normal shotguns too if you nerf M3 since normal shotguns have nearly the same stats of PBP just one extra bullet.

This admin better carry out what meph promised *cough* all shotguns no stacked damage *Cough*

My advice: NOBODY USE SHOTGUNS.

as long as theirs noobs, theres shotguns

and you can blame everyone who agreed to the nerfing petetion,

Maybe have it so all shotguns don't stack damage but do more damage when CLOSE UP an less when far away. Like in real life lol.

no

revert shotguns to old ones pl0x