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Flara 04-24-2013 08:26 PM

Mattlic and ect
 
Mettalics are the next big problem in zone, you've kept it so long that noobs can pk a lot easy, so someone can pay for a 10k-14k gralat gun and lose to someone who paid 1k gralats very easily. This is why I almost quit zone.

G Fatal 04-24-2013 08:33 PM

Thats better than Pay2win. I thought Metallic was nerfed anyway?(not been on to see it)

MonicaLewinsky 04-24-2013 08:40 PM

They were nerfed, tbh, I thought this was a thread from fsh about matt and the events team.

Flara 04-24-2013 08:51 PM

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Posted by Hayze (Post 337873)
They were nerfed, tbh, I thought this was a thread from fsh about matt and the events team.

They changed the mattlic back. >:(

Rotaruc 04-24-2013 09:19 PM

Metallic* lolz


& it was changed back probs bcuz of all the whiners complaining about how they cant make spam walls anymore. & hayze .... too much "tbh" lol chill


Nd flara stop making threads about things u dont like. feedback ur ideas instead

Jester Lapse 04-24-2013 09:24 PM

add a D option: stop bitching

Flara 04-24-2013 10:52 PM

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Posted by Rotaruc (Post 337906)
Nd flara stop making threads about things u dont like. feedback ur ideas instead

Feedback does no ****, and I made 4 threads total, 2 about things I don't like, 1 is about ideas for zone, and 1 is about my squad. You feedback only challenges in squad spar so you don't know what it's like to feedback ideas.

P.S. use proper grammar.

GlazeyB 04-24-2013 10:58 PM

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Posted by Rotaruc (Post 337906)
Nd flara stop making threads about things u dont like. feedback ur ideas instead

That is feedback, moron.

Noun
Information about reactions to a product, a person's performance of a task, etc., used as a basis for improvement.
The modification or control of a process or system by its results or effects, e.g., in a biochemical pathway or behavioral response.

DraGun 04-24-2013 11:00 PM

Ok first of all you only get kill by metallic rifle if 1. Your chasing someone and running into the or 2. Your dodging is just bad. As in spar yes is a little challenge. But in pk is a new total concept. Metallic use in pk arena or for basing, I'm not going to say it sucks but it's a lot harder then other guns (laser type guns). In pk arena or basing a planet. The environment is much larger making metallic rifle easy to dodge. Haven't you seen? Metallic rifle has a little spread over the distant the bullet is traveling. So really, Metallic is only good for spar because you are using it in a much smaller, compact environment, thus making the dodging area limited. That is why some of the players had complaint about them. I like it the way it is. But raising the price on the gun is totally worth it. The gun is very deadly in spar if you know how to use it.

GlazeyB 04-24-2013 11:02 PM

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fUnK 04-24-2013 11:18 PM

Its funny how they keep changing guns to satisfy the new players lol. And you say it was nerfed becaused it was too good, but isnt that why they had guns like the valentines gun, easter egg launcher and the green rifle to compete against it. This game is supposed to be challenging not ez... This goes way back to when they slowed down the guns and made this server even less challenging for the new players. And yeah flara feedback your complaints. The only reason I made a thread is cuz i was raging hehe. And also dont blame this on tashkin, he told me that it was stefans idea to do all this dumb sh--

Ignatius 04-24-2013 11:42 PM

Learn to spell ya dumb fart

Flara 04-24-2013 11:44 PM

You didn't think this through
 
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Posted by fUnK (Post 338003)
This game is supposed to be challenging not ez...

I know that its is supposed to be challenging, but when you give every noob the best gun in the game after 1 hour of gameplay...


A few things you didn't realize about the guns,
1. The metallic riffle and the love riffle do the same dmg, metallic does faster spam, and the love riffle costed 7777$ for a limited time, and the metallic costs 1000$ and is always avaible.
Winner: metallic
2. Egg shot does 6 dmg, metallic does 5, for the egg shot you have to keep taping the shoot button, thus making you aim in the wrong area sometimes, the metallic spams, and has a slight aim difference, egg shot costs 8000$ and is limited time only, but the metallic costs 1000$ and, as mentioned in 1, it is always available.
Winner: metallic
3. Green Riffle costs 6000$, metallic costs 1000$, green does 6 dmg, metallic does 5, both are always available, both spam @ same rate.
Winner: tie, green riffle does 6 dmg, metallic does 5 dmg and costs 6 times less than the green riffle

MonicaLewinsky 04-25-2013 12:03 AM

If they are a "noob" you should easily be able to beat them, based off your hours and countless kills. It is an easily dodgeable gun. Why are you complaining about giving the newer players a chance.

Ok, you delete your graalians account if I can beat you using green rifle, heart rifle, and egg launcher. 3-0. You use metallic every time. Ok?

fUnK 04-25-2013 12:07 AM

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Posted by Hayze (Post 338046)
If they are a "noob" you should easily be able to beat them, based off your hours and countless kills. It is an easily dodgeable gun. Why are you complaining about giving the newer players a chance.

Ok, you delete your graalians account if I can beat you using green rifle, heart rifle, and egg launcher. 3-0. You use metallic every time. Ok?

Because I was a noob and I can do it everyone else can too. And ofcourse im going to be mad when they make things ez for new players when im not anymore.

Rotaruc 04-25-2013 05:34 AM

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Posted by Flara (Post 337982)
Feedback does no ****, and I made 4 threads total, 2 about things I don't like, 1 is about ideas for zone, and 1 is about my squad. You feedback only challenges in squad spar so you don't know what it's like to feedback ideas.

P.S. use proper grammar.

feedback all your complaints in game no one wants to hear about how you fail to kill a noob.

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Posted by Glazey (Post 337985)
That is feedback, moron.

Noun
Information about reactions to a product, a person's performance of a task, etc., used as a basis for improvement.
The modification or control of a process or system by its results or effects, e.g., in a biochemical pathway or behavioral response.

Id appreciate it if you would gtfo of zone forums lol. I havent seen you once in my 600 hours of playing.... and btw i just googled th defition of feedback and thats the exact same defition that u used. You must be very intelligent to know how to google-->copy-->paste. heres a simple defintion of feedback: A persons feelings about a certain person/thing. moron.

G Fatal 04-25-2013 09:06 AM

Winner depends on skill, accuracy and luck also being able to lead the player into corners with your bullets helps. Metallic is fine how it was from very start.
Also seasonal weapons are going to be more money as they become rare until that seasonal event comes around again. I'd hate if they made it more Pay2win by nerfing cheap guns just because players can kill with it.

Masters 04-25-2013 12:53 PM

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Posted by Gricey (Post 338339)
I'd hate if they made it more Pay2win by nerfing cheap guns just because players can kill with it.


Flara 04-25-2013 08:20 PM

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Posted by Gricey (Post 338339)
Winner depends on skill, accuracy and luck also being able to lead the player into corners with your bullets helps. Metallic is fine how it was from very start.
Also seasonal weapons are going to be more money as they become rare until that seasonal event comes around again. I'd hate if they made it more Pay2win by nerfing cheap guns just because players can kill with it.

Remember the old days when zone had the guns in perfect balance? The metallic shot bullets as fast as the bullets went(so spam walls couldn't be made). Well when they slowed the metallic and all other guns down, the metallic became OP. it was the best when zone started, also rotaruc, - reputation, you don't know they said that zone was going to be like era way back then.

Meph 04-25-2013 08:25 PM

I have the stance that the decision to slow down the Metallic Rifle's rate of fire was a good one that should have stayed. In regard to your thread though, Flara: your third option is confusing. Currently all projectiles on iZone travel at the same speed. I think you may have worded that incorrectly. Did you mean, revert it back to a slower rate of fire, or make it semi-automatic(meaning that you have to repeatedly tap the fire button, instead of holding it down)?

And in regard to the suggestions that she use the in-game 'feedback' option, I believe her goal was to make public discussion on the matter, in hopes that like-minded individuals would comment in favor of her argument in order to add more support. Additionally, the 'feedback' option usually doesn't result in a reply from staff in matters like this. Generally speaking, if it's an inquiry that has already been addressed, it is brushed off, and assumed that the plaintiff will find resources such as these forums to get the answer. In this situation, the inquiry has not only been addressed, but it's also been changed and reverted back because of popular vote.

Forums have a sometimes brutal way of answering such inquiries, as showcased in this thread. But I have to say, it was mighty bold of you to bring this recently debated hot-button issue back to the table. The people on these forums have already protested the change with enough force to revert it. While I stand with you on the matter of having a slower Metallic Rifle, one must also understand that Graal is a a culture where majority rules, in care of player count preservation.

Flara 04-25-2013 08:35 PM

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Posted by Rotaruc (Post 338258)
heres a simple defintion of feedback: A persons feelings about a certain person/thing. moron.

You forgot your caps.
And one more thing, if your going to be an ass just leave because the way you defined it means my thread is feedback. Moron.

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Posted by Meph (Post 338627)
Did you mean, revert it back to a slower rate of fire, or make it semi-automatic(meaning that you have to repeatedly tap the fire button, instead of holding it down)?

Yes, just like the egg launcher, and I remember someone saying "screw Tashkin, Meph should be manager" It was funk or some other player, but I'd have to agree with whoever said that.

G Fatal 04-25-2013 09:00 PM

IF Metallic gets nerfed just because players can kill with it I'm leaving zone. Its fine how is was originally, if its made like egg shooter noone would even use.

WhileLoop 04-29-2013 01:22 PM

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Posted by fUnK (Post 338003)
Its funny how they keep changing guns to satisfy the new players lol. And you say it was nerfed becaused it was too good, but isnt that why they had guns like the valentines gun, easter egg launcher and the green rifle to compete against it. This game is supposed to be challenging not ez... This goes way back to when they slowed down the guns and made this server even less challenging for the new players. And yeah flara feedback your complaints. The only reason I made a thread is cuz i was raging hehe. And also dont blame this on tashkin, he told me that it was stefans idea to do all this dumb sh--

I believe this was touched on in the other metallic rifle thread. Always bear in mind that with guns, it its most simplistic view (unfortunately the most common view in gun stats) there is no where to go but up. In other words, the more guns that get released, the more powerful they become. Nerfs such as this are the checks and balances that avoid, or at least delay, the slippery slope that eventually turns a fair PK system into a spray fest, bereft of the very "challenge" you strive for. Take a step back and look not at the cost of the weapon, but its long-term impact on the weapons system. There is a clear distinction between a challenge and a game full of overpowered guns. Not to say that the Metallic Rifle was terribly overpowered, but to establish high base stats for a low-tier weapon is the first step toward a game where the gun wins the fight, not the player. I have seen firsthand a guns system(and respectively a PK system) slowly decay over a span of 8 years, and that was in a non-monetary economy; when you throw real money into the mix it further threatens the stability of a fair weapons system. I stand behind any measure taken to re-enforce fair play. I do not understand why a player with any respect for the game would endorse compromising its fairness. It is a certain naivety that drives the creation of pro-buff and anti-nerf threads.

I do, however, agree that if a gun is determined to be too powerful, that the players should have the option to get a partial refund. Balancing should be considered prior to calling any shots to altering(and better yet, creating) a paid product. It isn't the customer's fault the cook put onions on their burger.

CHAOS* 04-30-2013 12:40 AM

Metallic is fine. Don't change it.

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Posted by Gricey (Post 338661)
IF Metallic gets nerfed just because players can kill with it I'm leaving zone. Its fine how is was originally, if its made like egg shooter noone would even use.

This too ^^

Rotaruc 04-30-2013 05:12 AM

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Posted by Flara (Post 338631)
You forgot your caps.
And one more thing, if your going to be an ass just leave because the way you defined it means my thread is feedback.

Please follow the directions given:

1. Press on the spaceship icon displayed on the top left corner of your screen
2.Tap the Button that says "feedback"
3. Send your complaints or ideas on how to improve the game there

Thanks. now delete this thread :)

Flara 05-07-2013 11:43 PM

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Posted by Rotaruc (Post 341419)
Please follow the directions given:

1. Press on the spaceship icon displayed on the top left corner of your screen
2.Tap the Button that says "feedback"
3. Send your complaints or ideas on how to improve the game there

Thanks. now delete this thread :)

Bet you didn't read this rotaruc
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Posted by Meph (Post 338627)
in regard to the suggestions that she use the in-game 'feedback' option, I believe her goal was to make public discussion on the matter, in hopes that like-minded individuals would comment in favor of her argument in order to add more support. Additionally, the 'feedback' option usually doesn't result in a reply from staff in matters like this. Generally speaking, if it's an inquiry that has already been addressed, it is brushed off, and assumed that the plaintiff will find resources such as these forums to get the answer. In this situation, the inquiry has not only been addressed, but it's also been changed and reverted back because of popular vote.


GlazeyB 05-08-2013 12:29 AM

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Posted by Rotaruc (Post 338258)
Id appreciate it if you would gtfo of zone forums lol. I havent seen you once in my 600 hours of playing.... and btw i just googled th defition of feedback and thats the exact same defition that u used. You must be very intelligent to know how to google-->copy-->paste. heres a simple defintion of feedback: A persons feelings about a certain person/thing. moron.

I don't play iZone. I, personally, think it's a shiny piece of **** of what it could of been.
lollate2theparty
You're calling me the moron when you didn't know what feeback was? Sorry I didn't feel like explaining it to you and just googled it out of pure laziness.

Rotaruc 05-08-2013 12:38 AM

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I know what feedback is lol but thees a very special place to send your biching to. no need for an entire thread to tell people u hate something.
Once again... glazey stfu u dont even play zone lol u comment on everything possible.

Stop your rage. get a hold of yourself seriously.

GlazeyB 05-08-2013 01:08 AM

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Posted by Rotaruc (Post 345957)
I know what feedback is lol but thees a very special place to send your biching to. no need for an entire thread to tell people u hate something.

If you knew what it was, why would you claim it wasn't feedback then?
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Once again... glazey stfu u dont even play zone lol u comment on everything possible.
I've been pretty inactive for the past few weeks.

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Stop your rage. get a hold of yourself seriously.
This statement makes no sense, I simply responded to your rage.

Rotaruc 05-08-2013 01:11 AM

was talking to flara about the rage lol and why are u r still talking? ..... i blocked u b4 i even talked to u a while back because i seen that u were annoying af lmao so ill do it again cuz everything from ur avatar to ur posts r annoying.

MonicaLewinsky 05-08-2013 01:30 AM

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Posted by Rotaruc (Post 345973)
was talking to flara about the rage lol and why are u r still talking? ..... i blocked u b4 i even talked to u a while back because i seen that u were annoying af lmao so ill do it again cuz everything from ur avatar to ur posts r annoying.

The irony of you calling him annoying.

GlazeyB 05-08-2013 03:12 AM

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Posted by Rotaruc (Post 345973)
was talking to flara about the rage lol and why are u r still talking? ..... i blocked u b4 i even talked to u a while back because i seen that u were annoying af lmao so ill do it again cuz everything from ur avatar to ur posts r annoying.

No you weren't lmao. I don't care if you block me or not, you're stupid and provide little entertainment as it is.

Also, the irony is strong with this one.


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