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BL_SHIFT 02-05-2013 03:46 PM

Who else thinks this is unfair?
 
Well who else thinks it unfair that only layerd,loki and flamecrows closet's freinds get a free like ultra rare such as panda hammer loki hammer(not sure what its called but has his head on it) and those flamecrow wings or whatever cuz that makes them look like admin rares when there not auctioned or won and if im not mistaken admins cant give supers out. and no i dont want one......well i do like the panda hammer.

RedBoy786* 02-05-2013 03:47 PM

You can earn them too you know...

BL_SHIFT 02-05-2013 03:52 PM

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Posted by RedBoy786* (Post 293546)
You can earn them too you know...

You have earned one?

K!LLA KEV 02-05-2013 03:53 PM

ya its bullsh!t, just like everything else admins get away with.

RedBoy786* 02-05-2013 03:59 PM

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Posted by BL_SHIFT (Post 293547)
You have earned one?

Maybe...

Ghettoicedtea 02-05-2013 04:43 PM

But true

Jeni<3 02-05-2013 04:46 PM

Not true and one day you will grow up and realize how immature it is to be jelly over a pixelated item...I have explained this a million times over and I don't even know who has what items anymore but good job inciting a flamewar when the last occurrence of this was 6 months ago...

K!LLA KEV 02-05-2013 04:49 PM

lets all revolt against admins

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Posted by Jeni<3 (Post 293564)
Not true and one day you will grow up and realize how immature it is to be jelly over a pixelated item...I have explained this a million times over and I don't even know who has what items anymore but good job inciting a flamewar when the last occurrence of this was 6 months ago...

no. its true, admins can give "super-rares" to their closest friends, super-rares nobody else can ever get. its not really fair lol even tho i dont really care about rares or any items other than heal lol

lord greg 02-05-2013 04:55 PM

If they have no special abilities or such but are mainly there for rarity then I think it is fair if admins give out a limited amount.

K!LLA KEV 02-05-2013 04:55 PM

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Posted by lord greg (Post 293574)
If they have no special abilities or such but are mainly there for rarity then I think it is fair if admins give out a limited amount.

you think everything is fair, revolt dammit.

lord greg 02-05-2013 04:57 PM

lol. not everything

Ghettoicedtea 02-05-2013 04:59 PM

Favoritism is NOT fair. Admins should never EVER be allowed to give players a advantage skewing gameplay and making it so their "friends" get a advantage or become popular.

lord greg 02-05-2013 05:00 PM

I don't see an advantage so far. So they get some more pixelated friends, how does that help them or affect others?

Ghettoicedtea 02-05-2013 05:05 PM

Its a chain effect. You get notorious for a "good thing" then you will get stuff from other player brown nosers. Also getting a weapon from a admin for free when other players have to "earn" them its unfair.

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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 293566)
lets all revolt against admins

VIVA LA RESISTANCE
XD

lord greg 02-05-2013 05:07 PM

You are kind of convincing me now. But what would happen to people with an admin super rare?

Zerith 02-05-2013 05:08 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 293572)
Im not jelly about a item that completly sucks ass. Seriousy the laynerd hammer SUCKS. Jeni your probally the biggest admin **** sucker of tem all. You treat admins like gods. There people, everyone gets treated the same (or thats how it should be). You may think your not a admin **** sucker. But if you even ask for a statue from one you get it, a doll, you get it, hell maybe even a item you get it. I have seen your gh you have every admin statue and that just yells "HEY GRAAL! LOOK AT WHAT YOU CAN GET IF YOU SUCK ENOUGH ADMIN ****!" Your entitled to your own opinions. This is what i think you can think whatever you wish to think.

And of course your the only one (so far) to vote that favoritism is fair.

Shut up dude. Admins got their own free choice of what they do. So if Admins decide to give crap over to people, you instead blame the people who received it? Jeni doesn't fawn over the fact that you're an admin and spam useless crap like "Plzzz refer me to be an admin" or "help, how 2 be admin?" instead, she treats admins as they really are...People. and People can make friends with whomever they want.

If you want Admin friends, then stop treating them differently, putting them so high up on a pedestal, and forcing yourself to be known to them.

And if you are relying on Admin tools, and having Admin friends to be "popular", then you got the dumbest idea of what it means to be popular.

K!LLA KEV 02-05-2013 05:11 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 293582)
VIVA LA RESISTANCE
XD

http://www.troll.me/images/twobros/d...revolution.jpg

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Posted by lord greg (Post 293586)
You are kind of convincing me now. But what would happen to people with an admin super rare?

we all bully them to death.

lord greg 02-05-2013 05:13 PM

I like this plan

K!LLA KEV 02-05-2013 05:14 PM

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Posted by lord greg (Post 293589)
I like this plan

revolt greg!

lord greg 02-05-2013 05:16 PM

viva la revolution

K!LLA KEV 02-05-2013 05:22 PM

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Posted by lord greg (Post 293594)
viva la revolution

http://th08.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/...ad-d3bcqpa.jpg

Shiz 02-05-2013 05:57 PM

Honestly, I dont care. Too bad there's not another option on the poll that says something else.

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Posted by Zerith (Post 293587)
Shut up dude. Admins got their own free choice of what they do. So if Admins decide to give crap over to people, you instead blame the people who received it? Jeni doesn't fawn over the fact that you're an admin and spam useless crap like "Plzzz refer me to be an admin" or "help, how 2 be admin?" instead, she treats admins as they really are...People. and People can make friends with whomever they want.

If you want Admin friends, then stop treating them differently, putting them so high up on a pedestal, and forcing yourself to be known to them.

And if you are relying on Admin tools, and having Admin friends to be "popular", then you got the dumbest idea of what it means to be popular.

He has the right idea. Why not listen to him?

Ozzy Magus 02-05-2013 05:58 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 293559)
See here they only get these items beecause they are beyond the level of kiss asser. Those guys are admin **** suckers. Seriously how much admin **** did you suck or those items. Yes it is unfair but as the rules state "admins can distribute items as they wish" so nothing will be done with it. They sucked the admins ****. They get something in return.

^^^^^^^^^^^


Right guys, don't just sit there and let this bull**** continue. Revolt.

Jeni<3 02-05-2013 06:02 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 293572)
Im not jelly about a item that completly sucks ass. Seriousy the laynerd hammer SUCKS. Jeni your probally the biggest admin **** sucker of tem all. You treat admins like gods. There people, everyone gets treated the same (or thats how it should be). You may think your not a admin **** sucker. But if you even ask for a statue from one you get it, a doll, you get it, hell maybe even a item you get it. I have seen your gh you have every admin statue and that just yells "HEY GRAAL! LOOK AT WHAT YOU CAN GET IF YOU SUCK ENOUGH ADMIN ****!" Your entitled to your own opinions. This is what i think you can think whatever you wish to think.

And of course your the only one (so far) to vote that favoritism is fair.

Get this straight....I DO NOT TREAT ADMINS ANY DIFFERENTLY THAN ANY OTHER PLAYER WHO IS MY FRIEND...friends are friends. I have no idea why you all can't get that through your heads. Many staff were my friends long before they were staff, ask them if I changed. Sure I may have asked for a doll or statue but I have never asked for an item from any staff member, ever. Players offer me items all the time, what do I say? Thanks, that is very sweet but unnecessary. Even with Lay, I gave him many supers for his bday that I bought at auctions or traded. People just make assumptions instead of taking the time to know people and facts. That is the saddest part of all of this. Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion but nobody has the right to judge this way! I ask you if these items were offered to you would you deny them? I think we all know the answer. I really hope you mature soon because all of this pent up anger and hostility is not healthy for anyone.

Ozzy Magus 02-05-2013 06:05 PM

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Posted by Jeni<3 (Post 293616)
Get this straight....I DO NOT TREAT ADMINS ANY DIFFERENTLY THAN ANY OTHER PLAYER WHO IS MY FRIEND...friends are friends. I have no idea why you all can't get that through your heads. Many staff were my friends long before they were staff, ask them if I changed. Sure I may have asked for a doll or statue but I have never asked for an item from any staff member, ever. Players offer me items all the time, what do I say? Thanks, that is very sweet but unnecessary. Even with Lay, I gave him many supers for his bday that I bought at auctions or traded. People just make assumptions instead of taking the time to know people and facts. That is the saddest part of all of this. Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion but nobody has the right to judge this way! I ask you if these items were offered to you would you deny them? I think we all know the answer. I really hope you mature soon because all of this pent up anger and hostility is not healthy for anyone.

Honestly? Same goes for fake stats.
I'd rather die, than get something for sucking up. That's just so-low.
None of us are jelly, its just the fact that this is unfair.
But you cannot understand.
You called us immature right? Yet you can't properly argument on why it is 'fair' (lol!) for staff to be able to give away items to people they want, whitout needing to win an event. This seriously is the ultimatest level of unfairness.
Now what? In the future guys will get sabers and 50 ec for? Being friends with a staff? What a joke, seriously. If you're ok with this, then you're just an egoistic #$#£%¥. Players get FREE stuff for being skilled an winning events. Not for being friends with a staff, wtf.

lord greg 02-05-2013 06:05 PM

This isn't about whether you would accept items it about if admins should be allowed to give away items to friends.

bubs 02-05-2013 06:06 PM

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Posted by Jeni<3 (Post 293564)
Not true and one day you will grow up and realize how immature it is to be jelly over a pixelated item...I have explained this a million times over and I don't even know who has what items anymore but good job inciting a flamewar when the last occurrence of this was 6 months ago...

one day you'll grow up and realize you're not in love with a pixelated panda :p

Jeni<3 02-05-2013 06:15 PM

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Posted by Ozzy Magus (Post 293618)
Honestly? Same goes for fake stats.
I'd rather die, than get something for sucking up. That's just so-low.
None of us are jelly, its just the fact that this is unfair.
But you cannot understand.
You called us immature right? Yet you can't properly argument on why it is 'fair' (lol!) to be able to give away items to people we want, whitout needing to win an event. This seriously is the ultimatest level of unfairness.
Now what? In the future guys will get sabers and 50 ec for? Being friends with a staff? What a joke, seriously. If you're ok with this, then you're just an egoistic #$#£%¥

Really, you miss my point as well. Since when does being friends with people constitute as sucking up? You are on the outside looking in and assuming I suck up. You also don't give staff the courtesy to believe that they can't see right through people who are being fake to them. I treat all friends as friends, apparently you all don't understand what it is to give people the benefit of the doubt as human beings prior to judging them on their jobs or who they associate with. Personally, I chose to know people as individuals and in turn, I am treated with respect and friendship. You really should try it sometime vs showing your age venting in a forum about what 15 pixelated items in a game? And yeah, I really base and pk (NOT) so remind me exactly what my advantage is? Revolt all you like, it is a shame you have nothing better to do than slander others and find miniscule reasons to complain.

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Posted by bubs (Post 293621)
one day you'll grow up and realize you're not in love with a pixelated panda :p

That is the dumbest statement by far...now you can act out because of our history but I will not stoop so low to share all of your indiscretions. My relationship is not era, in this age of technology there is such a thing as long-distance relationships. But you must admit, since you actually did pursue him, Layerd is a pretty adorable panda <3

Shiz 02-05-2013 06:17 PM

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Posted by Jeni<3 (Post 293623)
Really, you miss my point as well. Since when does being friends with people constitute as sucking up? You are on the outside looking in and assuming I suck up. You also don't give staff the courtesy to believe that they can't see right through people who are being fake to them. I treat all friends as friends, apparently you all don't understand what it is to give people the benefit of the doubt as human beings prior to judging them on their jobs or who they associate with. Personally, I chose to know people as individuals and in turn, I am treated with respect and friendship. You really should try it sometime vs showing your age venting in a forum about what 15 pixelated items in a game? And yeah, I really base and pk (NOT) so remind me exactly what my advantage is? Revolt all you like, it is a shame you have nothing better to do than slander others and find miniscule reasons to complain.


That is the dumbest statement by far...now you can act out because of our history but I will not stoop so low to share all of your indiscretions. My relationship is not era, in this age of technology there is such a thing as long-distance relationships. But you must admit, since you actually did pursue him, Layerd is a pretty adorable panda <3

She might have been friends with the staff before they got hired. ^

Ozzy Magus 02-05-2013 06:18 PM

Lmfao. You still don't get it.
We don't care about you and all those others gettin' ****.
Its about how it is. About staff giving items (which are not obtainable other then:events/ friends(!)) to "friends".
Try to understand.
What if i'd be friend with snk, he'd have a gold m4 as his favourite gun' and he'd give me one, just like that. Do you seriously think this is okay?-please don't answer.
This is ******ed. Since when do people get something for being friends with staff (I did not mention anything about sucking up in this post, as this seems to annoy you, but it is the truth, anyways...).
You get items because you BUY them or WIN (Events) but definitely not for being friends with staff. Those who agree to that, obviously got stuff from a staff friend. The rest (900/1000 players) would agree with us here.
But you don't care enough about the other players to even admit this.

TheRookie 02-05-2013 06:23 PM

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Posted by Ozzy Magus (Post 293618)
Yet you can't properly argument on why it is 'fair' (lol!) to be able to give away items to people we want, whitout needing to win an event. This seriously is the ultimatest level of unfairness.
Now what? In the future guys will get sabers and 50 ec for? Being friends with a staff? What a joke, seriously. If you're ok with this, then you're just an egoistic #$#£%¥

Listen you ******ed jealous creature, you.

Unfair: Items which can be acquired through normal means, but is acquired through staff rights, and then given away to normal players.

Fair: Staff made items whom have free reign to distribute it however they want as long as there is no way to acquire it other than himself/herself.

Fair: Staff has acquired the item AS A NORMAL player, but decides of his own free will to give it away

By the way, Staff don't just get "any" item they want. Through accomplishing assignments, they are rewarded by items granted/at the discretion of snk. I've met many staff members who didn't have ****. There is constant checking of abuse upon each other within the circle of staff. Therefore I doubt that the only option that makes it unfair, is actually happening.

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Posted by bubs (Post 293621)
one day you'll grow up and realize you're not in love with a pixelated panda :p

One day you'll grow up and realize the world is full of possibilities that go beyond your petty imagination.

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Posted by lord greg (Post 293619)
This isn't about whether you would accept items it about if admins should be allowed to give away items to friends.

There is nothing wrong with that unless it affects the gameplay of the community together positively or negatively. Any unfair alteration through the use of staff influenced actions can be considered abuse. In no way shape or form do I see this as "abuse" except for butthurt little kids like you and the douche I addressed earlier in this post for being jealous about it.

Ozzy Magus 02-05-2013 06:24 PM

So you don't care about it being unfair?
-I'm out.
You must be an idiot to tell us that they can give items trough their idevice (we obviously did not mean this). But now getting rewarded with items for their works, and then they can give that to friends, whatever.....
Bull****

K!LLA KEV 02-05-2013 06:25 PM

hearts offered one of my members an EC to join sk lol

&& only people who are friends with admins (& probably got a free item) will agree thats it fair for admins to give un-obtainable items to their friends for free.

just read that statement. over & over, there is no argument.

Jeni<3 02-05-2013 06:25 PM

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Posted by Ozzy Magus (Post 293625)
Lmfao. You still don't get it.
We don't care about you and all those others gettin' ****.
Its about how it is. About staff giving items (which are not obtainable other then:events/ friends(!)) to "friends".
Try to understand.
What if i'd be friend with snk, he'd have a gold m4 as his favourite gun' and he'd give me one, just like that. Do you seriously think this is okay?-please don't answer.
This is ******ed. Since when do people get something for being friends with staff (I did not mention anything about sucking up in this post, as this seems to annoy you, but it is the truth, anyways...).
You get items because you BUY them or WIN (Events) but definitely not for being friends with staff. Those who agree to that, obviously got stuff from a staff friend. The rest (900/1000 players) would agree with us here.
But you don't care enough about the other players to even admit this.

Now you are telling me who I care about? I understand your point perfectly, in case you missed it I was personally attacked in this thread which I why I respond. I can see both sides and if this was more than .0001% of items and they were really giving someone an unfair advantage I would agree with you. The last thing I enjoy are confrontations of this sort, peace and harmony are more my preferred gig. I keep foolishly waiting for the day that people can share their views here without getting personally attacked and slandered by incorrect theories and perceptions. Agree to disagree, but don't personally attack my character and integrity as a human being, please.

Ozzy Magus 02-05-2013 06:26 PM

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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 293628)
hearts offered one of my members an EC to join sk lol

&& only people who are friends with admins (& probably got a free item) will agree thats it fair for admins to give un-obtainable items to their friends for free.

just read that statement. over & over, there is no argument.

Thanks. ^

TheRookie 02-05-2013 06:28 PM

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Posted by Ozzy Magus (Post 293627)
So you don't care about it being unfair?
-I'm out.
You must be an idiot to tell us that they can give items trough their idevice (we obviously did not mean this). But now getting rewarded with items for their works, and then they can give that to friends, whatever.....
Bull****

Let me try this again slowly....

Tell me why this is unfair again?

Like Flamecrow's Wings for example. The ONLY way to acquire this should be through only Flamecrow. If there is no other "easier" method, then thus this is FAIR for everyone. The reason it is fair, is because EVERYONE HAS A CHANCE TO BE FLAMECROWS FRIEND. You think that road is closed off? Learn to think out of the box please.

Just because you got personal issues and lack the confidence or the strive to be friends with a normal human being like Flamecrow, but are too intimidated "BECUZ HE ADIAM", then good for you. You don't deserve getting that item from him.

I'm trying really hard to simplify this for you slow people.

Ozzy Magus 02-05-2013 06:30 PM

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Posted by Jeni<3 (Post 293629)
Now you are telling me who I care about? I understand your point perfectly, in case you missed it I was personally attacked in this thread which I why I respond. I can see both sides and if this was more than .0001% of items and they were really giving someone an unfair advantage I would agree with you. The last thing I enjoy are confrontations of this sort, peace and harmony are more my preferred gig. I keep foolishly waiting for the day that people can share their views here without getting personally attacked and slandered by incorrect theories and perceptions. Agree to disagree, but don't personally attack my character and integrity as a human being, please.

You are one of 100 examples we could state.
900 players that try to win events, fight to get their stuff. And 100 who are friends with staff, get some rare hammers or some other ****.
Read. And then read again. And then realize this is unfair. Seriously how can you even try to demonstrate the opposite. Its ******ed, how explicit this is.
Staff give items to friends that did not do anything specials.
Im good with staff being rewarded. But. Why give it to friends, that ruins the point of fighting to accquire something.
If you guys get free **** from staff, then I'm not going to do anything, work to get something.

K!LLA KEV 02-05-2013 06:31 PM

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Posted by TheRookie (Post 293632)
Let me try this again slowly....

Tell me why this is unfair again?

tell me how this IS fair, that as long as you are friends with an admin, you can possibly get an un-obtainable item that is impossible for other players to get.

lol its comical!

Ozzy Magus 02-05-2013 06:32 PM

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Posted by TheRookie (Post 293632)
Let me try this again slowly....

Tell me why this is unfair again?

Staff rewarded (personally) -> gives RARE item to friends (obviously it has to be rare) // the other side : 900 players fight in an event to get an item, people waste their $$$ on auctions.
Ok?

TheRookie 02-05-2013 06:36 PM

Read that post again. I edited it. ******s

comics 02-05-2013 06:38 PM

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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 293566)
lets all revolt against admins

Hell yeah :blush:

K!LLA KEV 02-05-2013 06:41 PM

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Posted by TheRookie (Post 293639)
Read my edited post. ******s.

no, still not fair. no argument. shouldnt have to be "friends" with an administrator to be entitled to receive an otherwise un-obtainable item.

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Posted by comics (Post 293641)
Hell yeah :blush:

the revolution is not an apple that falls when it is ripe. you have to make it fall.

REVOLT BROTHER!

TheRookie 02-05-2013 06:44 PM

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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 293642)
no, still not fair. no argument. shouldnt have to be "friends" with an administrator to be entitled to receive an otherwise un-obtainable item.

No argument? You must be stupidly closed minded.

Being "friends" with an administrator can be considered an attainable route that ANYONE can do.

It's your own fault your so intimidated by it and instead cry that other people can do it besides you.

Engel 02-05-2013 06:44 PM

Staff works hard to satisfy players; they're getting those give-away items because they're doing a good job. Homeless Witch for example decided to auction "her" item- it's a choice.
Theres not really such a thing as "favoritism" involved, they're just friends who get the items, and just because they're staff that shouldn't really matter. I bet each and everyone of you like a certain player more than another.

flamecrow 02-05-2013 07:24 PM

I don't know about other staff but for my birthday I made the Wings, and snk let me have 5 of them to give to whoever I wanted (I decided to give them away instead of doing events). Same thing for Homeless' wand, originally she only had 5 to give away but decided later to auction them to give a chance for others to have.

And this doesn't make a point but I gave ReCurveZ a wing and I don't really know him or are friends with him

Regarding the fairness, yes it seems unfair for staff to give items to players but I think it's fine as long they are limited to how many they can give and as long as they received them from snk as a reward for working or in my case, as a birthday gift.

Engel 02-05-2013 07:30 PM

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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 293688)
thats not what we are talking about, we are talking about the items they give away for free because they decide you are worthy. not auctions you pay for.

Invalid.



i already answered your question, it doesnt apply. it doesnt make a difference in what we are talking about because the question is whether or not it is fair for admins to give special items to their friends because they want too, items other players cannot get in any other way, not if "the same rules apply to everyone" in whether or not an admin decides you are worthy, lol. which still makes it unfair.

Still it's the same type of item we're talking about, she just decided to auction them, which means anyone can get them. Plus, all of those items are dropable. I bet if you bid enough the other will trade it, therefor everyone can obtain them. Invalid.

callimuc 02-05-2013 08:22 PM

i dont know if it has been said yet, but i know that the panda hammer was a bday present for layerd who was allowed to give it to 5 friends

Johnaudi 02-05-2013 08:34 PM

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Posted by BL_SHIFT (Post 293544)
Well who else thinks it unfair that only layerd,loki and flamecrows closet's freinds get a free like ultra rare such as panda hammer loki hammer(not sure what its called but has his head on it) and those flamecrow wings or whatever cuz that makes them look like admin rares when there not auctioned or won and if im not mistaken admins cant give supers out. and no i dont want one......well i do like the panda hammer.

Those items has been made for the Staff's birthdays, it is fair since they are gifted to the players, but respect that the staff members are higher than you and are allowed to have more rights. Why do you guys always compare us to players? 0.o
All of them were auctioned, and the Loki flag was for the one's who made 50 streaks. Some of them were give away for free, that's true, but it's not of your business to who or why it was given.

Ozzy Magus 02-05-2013 08:37 PM

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Posted by Johnaudi (Post 293781)
Those items has been made for the Staff's birthdays, it is fair since they are gifted to the players, but respect that the staff members are higher than you and are allowed to have more rights. Why do you guys always compare us to players? 0.o
All of them were auctioned, and the Loki flag was for the one's who made 50 streaks. Some of them were give away for free, that's true, but it's not of your business to who or why it was given.

So you do admit it is unfair.
Thanks. Also not really nice to ask why we compare staff to players. You guys ain't gods (nothing against you<3)
And i'll post my rage about someone that got an item from a staff that did not win an event or did something for it everytime it will happen. Because that's unfair towards all the other players. What you said is lame aswell.

Zerith 02-05-2013 08:43 PM

I'm an Admin. I don't see any corruption from the other staff members. Snk does a good job in making sure we all behave.

I've never denied the opportunity for anyone to be my friend. How is it unfair when you're the one who decides not to be? :)


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