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Rufus 10-18-2011 01:15 AM

Enderman griefing off y/n?
 
Personally I don't enjoy how Enderman act in 1.8. A large portion of the "griefing" that seems to be reported is actually done by an Enderman. I have the ability to disable their griefing globally now, and I personally think this is the best route until the next generation of Enderman are released. I want to know your thoughts on this before anything is done however, so vote in the poll and post your comments :D

Higbey 10-18-2011 01:28 AM

So nerfing a mob is okay, but adding /back apparently ruins the game despite the fact nobody that doesn't want to use it is effected? Unless you somehow are negatively effected by players like me having fun.

Rufus 10-18-2011 01:30 AM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 23666)
So nerfing a mob is okay, but adding /back apparently ruins the game despite the fact nobody that doesn't want to use it is effected? Unless you somehow are negatively effected by players like me having fun.

This thread has nothing to do with having a /back command, you have your own thread to discuss that.

Higbey 10-18-2011 01:43 AM

Sorry. I'm just a little angry about it not being added.

Anyway, when you say stop endermen griefing does that mean just stoping the block moving and placement, or stopping the spawning of endermen alltogether?

Pimpsy G. 10-18-2011 01:44 AM

I would have to say yes, because we already have Creeper griefing off.

Rufus 10-18-2011 01:46 AM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 23676)
Anyway, when you say stop endermen griefing does that mean just stoping the block moving and placement, or stopping the spawning of endermen alltogether?

It disables their ability to pick up blocks, but they pop up and chill around the world.

MattKan 10-18-2011 01:49 AM

Just out of curiosity, what was the reasoning behind you guys saying no? (Not trying to be rude at all!)

Kuujoe 10-18-2011 02:05 AM

I think creeper as well as endermen effects should be on. Having them off is lame, it's like cheating. We need a little challenge.

Dusty 10-18-2011 02:58 AM

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Posted by Kuujoe (Post 23685)
I think creeper as well as endermen effects should be on. Having them off is lame, it's like cheating. We need a little challenge.

Mob spawning is broken. Too many times I have had creepers spawn right inside my very lit house. Do you know how many times I would have had to rebuild my house just because mob spawning is broken?

http://i52.tinypic.com/6sfm9c.png

Endermen don't really even work properly. Their only purpose for existing is not only to grief buildings, but to also make the world insanely ugly. The world is peppered by dirt blocks, holes in the ground and trees, and even caves/strongholds have had endermen spawn inside and ruin the walls and floor. All endermen do right now is make the world look like it was generated with a spraypaint tool. Don't forget even Notch is changing them, 1.9 is just taking a long time.

MattKan 10-18-2011 04:28 AM

Dusty this is off topic but your texture pack is very nice...

reyalS 10-18-2011 04:44 AM

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Posted by Pimpsy G. (Post 23677)
I would have to say yes, because we already have Creeper griefing off.

Creeper griefing is not a factor, what you are talking about is creeper destorying

Beholder 10-18-2011 05:15 AM

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Posted by reyalS (Post 23752)
Creeper griefing is not a factor, what you are talking about is creeper destorying

Chance of an enderman actually returning a block it took is pretty low, considering they don't drop them on death or when agro.

DragonRider 10-19-2011 02:35 AM

This IS a vanilla server right? Then that means if you wanna keep it vanilla, keep all the mobs and their abilities. But I don't really care. Change it to how you see fit.

Beholder 10-19-2011 03:04 AM

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Posted by DragonRiderSux (Post 24032)
This IS a vanilla server right? Then that means if you wanna keep it vanilla, keep all the mobs and their abilities. But I don't really care. Change it to how you see fit.

"Survival", not vanilla. It's been far from vanilla about 15 installed mods ago.

Dusty 10-19-2011 03:21 AM

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Posted by DragonRiderSux (Post 24032)
This IS a vanilla server right? Then that means if you wanna keep it vanilla, keep all the mobs and their abilities. But I don't really care. Change it to how you see fit.

The problem is that SMP is a broken, unattended to, method of play. The hit detection and prediction Minecraft uses for mobs and PvP makes it almost impossible to approach mobs in the same way you would offline, in particular, Creepers. They can explode from 10 blocks away given the right circumstance of lag. It's just unfair to lose work because a little bit of lag.

Also, Endermen are just annoying right now. As Jonus noted, even if you kill them they don't drop the block they stole. There is no way of combating them, meaning in their current state they're just another matter of annoyance that add nothing to the game(ps they're kind of broken). In 1.9 they're "fixed" so there probably won't be much need to mod them out. Also, they were supposed to be a fairly rare mob, yet I see more than 3 groups every night around our village. One fly by around the server with creative mode and you'd see they're not so rare by all the damage they do to the terrain. Hell, you'd probably see it just by going in a cave system or stronghold, seeing all the odd and end blocks scattered about.

The idea here is to make the game a bit more enjoyable by alleviating the "broken" aspects. I don't agree with say, warping(at least in this manner), but I don't feel it's ruining my enjoyment of the game either.

Higbey 10-19-2011 03:33 AM

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Posted by Dusty
The problem is that SMP is a broken, unattended to, method of play. The hit detection and prediction Minecraft uses for mobs and PvP makes it almost impossible to approach mobs in the same way you would offline, in particular, Creepers. They can explode from 10 blocks away given the right circumstance of lag. It's just unfair to lose work because a little bit of lag.

Also, Endermen are just annoying right now. As Jonus noted, even if you kill them they don't drop the block they stole. There is no way of combating them, meaning in their current state they're just another matter of annoyance that add nothing to the game(ps they're kind of broken). In 1.9 they're "fixed" so there probably won't be much need to mod them out. Also, they were supposed to be a fairly rare mob, yet I see more than 3 groups every night around our village. One fly by around the server with creative mode and you'd see they're not so rare by all the damage they do to the terrain. Hell, you'd probably see it just by going in a cave system or stronghold, seeing all the odd and end blocks scattered about.

The idea here is to make the game a bit more enjoyable by alleviating the "broken" aspects. I don't agree with say, warping(at least in this manner), but I don't feel it's ruining my enjoyment of the game either.

It's survival. apparently player enjoyment doesn't matter. And yea, just like you said it's unfair to lose work from a little bit of lag, I find it unfair to lose all your items from a little bit of lag.

But since apparently that doesn't matter I doubt anything will be changed.

Dusty 10-19-2011 04:33 AM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 24081)
It's survival. apparently player enjoyment doesn't matter. And yea, just like you said it's unfair to lose work from a little bit of lag, I find it unfair to lose all your items from a little bit of lag.

But since apparently that doesn't matter I doubt anything will be changed.

We get it, you want /back, but this isn't the place.

Beholder 10-19-2011 04:40 AM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 24081)
But since apparently that doesn't matter I doubt anything will be changed.

If you came by my work place like that I'd direct you to the Preperation H and the KY Jelly, maybe even the stool softeners. Sorry the General Merchandise section doesn't cover 'broken records', but the Pharmacy does cover 'butt hurt'.

Rufus 10-20-2011 12:18 PM

The results are leaning heavily towards turning the griefing off, so I guess it's off until 1.9 comes out!

MattKan 10-20-2011 01:22 PM

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Posted by Rufus (Post 24601)
The results are leaning heavily towards turning the griefing off, so I guess it's off until 1.9 comes out!

Oh darn ;)

Dusty 10-25-2011 06:30 AM


Jazz 10-25-2011 08:15 PM

What ever happened to endermen not picking up blocks placed by players. :/

Dusty 10-25-2011 09:55 PM

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Posted by Jazz (Post 26456)
What ever happened to endermen not picking up blocks placed by players. :/

It's been enabled. They shouldn't be griefing anything now, and on my end I've yet to see an Enderman carrying a block since it's been implemented.

Rexx 10-25-2011 11:24 PM

I dont play MC but I like the concept behind the video =]
It would've been perfect it if the second half wasnt all screwed up

Higbey 10-26-2011 01:06 AM

Endermen are still dangerous. I found one walking about in my home, after attempting to reason with him on the rent and the current economic state of the server without saputos shop, yet he still refused to pay rent. I looked him in the eye and told him I'd evict him if he didn't pay. As a result he beat me to a pulp before I could equip a sword, and now I pay him 3 diamonds a month to live in what is now "his" home ._.

Cat612 10-26-2011 01:19 AM

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Posted by Higbey
Endermen are still dangerous. I found one walking about in my home, after attempting to reason with him on the rent and the current economic state of the server without saputos shop, yet he still refused to pay rent. I looked him in the eye and told him I'd evict him if he didn't pay. As a result he beat me to a pulp before I could equip a sword, and now I pay him 3 diamonds a month to live in what is now "his" home ._.

Lol! [Imaginary rep+]

DragonRider 10-30-2011 10:17 AM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 26554)
Endermen are still dangerous. I found one walking about in my home, after attempting to reason with him on the rent and the current economic state of the server without saputos shop, yet he still refused to pay rent. I looked him in the eye and told him I'd evict him if he didn't pay. As a result he beat me to a pulp before I could equip a sword, and now I pay him 3 diamonds a month to live in what is now "his" home ._.

Higbey defeated by a Enderman? That was uncalled for :0


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