*Announcement* - Angel (XOXO) Scammed Me
 

Okay, to start this off, the purpose of this thread isn't for me to moan and cry after getting scammed. I'm very aware of the legality of scamming. The purpose of this thread is to spread the word and warn everyone to no longer trade at Angel's house, if they wish to have safe trades.

Now i'm going to do my best to explain what exactly happend. So I was going to buy a panda hammer off EVIL (Tots). I was going to buy his panda hammer for pink umbrella + graalians hammer. If you know the layout of Angel's house this will hopefully make more sense to you, so this guy was on the left side of the cage and I was on the right side. Both of us dropped our items as agreed and went into the middle cages and Angel then closed the cages as normal. Then he *conveniently* had to go AFK at this exact moment. Few seconds later a random person which I assume to be Angel's alternative account or whatever came at the right hand side and took my pink umbrella and graalians hammer.

Whether this was Angel's alt or EVIL's alt (by the way, I do believe they were both in on it together) no one apart from the two parties trading should be present in the house. It is very unprofessional of Angel even if he does try to play the 'it was a random hacker' card. Anyway, EVIL was PMing me saying 'it wasn't Angel' 'it was all me' etc. Which encourages me to believe he was just covering Angel and taking the blame as this guy has nothing to lose, where as Angel had a reputation, this is assuming they were in on it together, which to anyone with half a brain cell, would appear to be the most likely explanation.

If there are parts of this that aren't quite clear, please do tell me, because this has been quite rushed. Anyway, a lot of you may be shocked by this. I suppose I was at first because I've traded at his house several times for super rares with loads of people; Joren, Bruc, Prime Mech, just to name a few. However I suppose everyone has a price, and he has done it in a way where he can cover for himself. I have to say to be fair I don't have 100% evident proof, but I certainly wouldn't make this up as I had a lot of trust and respect for Angel until today. He may go on to host trades and not scam but you need to beware certainly because he does have a price, particularly if you're looking to trade with high value / multiple super rares. Anyway, this is just a warning to everyone.

TLDR: In short, Angel (XOXO) scammed my pink umbrella + graalians hammer

Update: Okay, so it looks like I'm not the only person Angel has scammed. It looks like he has used the exact same way to scam on this guy:
http://i50.tinypic.com/14lsoz6.png
I was speaking to this chap, and he told me that he was suppose to be buying panda hammer off this person, the same person I was suppose to be buying panda hammer off. It would appear Angel and friend(s) used the exact same technique to scam this chap, as they did to me. It's a very clever scam but I think the fact he's done the exact same thing twice in one day is very foolish of him. I hope this has convinced those of you were nieve before in a false sense of security that Angel is infact not to be trusted. However if after all this, you are stupid enough to trust him and get scammed, then I have sympathy for you whatsoever. I've done my best here on this thread to warn people. It's up to you now to make the right decisions. And a reminder to not deal with the two following people either:
Traph* (Tots)
EVIL (Tots)
These are the two people with the panda hammer who are doing this scam with Angel.

TLDR: Angel scammed this guy too + stay away from Traph* and EVIL (Both in Tots)

http://i48.tinypic.com/sct0zb.jpg

It's difficult for me to get my point across when I don't have 1000+ posts and a few rep bars but what does that mean really? I'm getting a point across. I'm a human being, this is a democracy, and I have the right to speak. You're extra posts and rep on an online forum doesn't make you a superior being to me. Just thought I'd mention that. And please, I don't want to argue with anyone.

Alright I just hate when people come on this forum and post blocks of text about a scammer.

Totally agree, however this is someone who is very well trusted on Era, it's not some randomer. This guy has built up a brilliant reputation, which is why I feel the need to spread the word.

Wait Angel is a guy? Sounds like a girl especially with that gang name XOXO.

Angel is a guy.

Alright sorry about that. BTW is Angel gay?

Please read my guide, it is there for a reason. I didn't really read the text but I get the main idea, just don't drop your items. What did you lose? I don't really play era now but o well

iHot - I don't know, kind of irrelevant. Lol.
Nezo - He scammed my pink umbrella and my graalians hammer

Thats sucks, on the bright side you wont be ridiculed for having an umbrella thats pink

Alright let's clear some things up;

- Engel= scarecrow custom, super legit (know from experience).

- Angel (XOXO) = the person who 'Jamie' is taking about. Was previous owner of XOXO, idk if he's legit considering I've heard both good and bad about him

- Angel (Famous) - Female (from what she states xD), Ex-Admin on Era, the one which always says 'moo moo!', has been strongly ACCUSED with APPARENT proof of scamming Treaks 2nd account which had a katana.

Now that all the people are cleared, let's get back on topic. Yah man, honestly, it sucks if this is what happened. Its very common for people to host legit traded and build up their repuatation until that one moment where they pull of a mega scam (not everyone does this, eg, Jeni). Trading is just an overall problem on Era considering you can't really trust anybody yet we all get that greed of wanting an item which leads to us going into a trade putting our items at a huge risk. Typical been there done that. Can't really give you any advise since the best would be to trade at a legit persons house which hasn't worked with you... But thanks for the warning anyways. Maybe you took some pictures for proof that this happened?

Lol clear it up, theres angel (famous) and angel (xoxo) add that or some will get confused

I'm still confused about this, and btw
I never saw angel with a panda hammer...

Like I said I have no solid evidence but I'm just warning people. Before today, I'd probably traded at Angel's house 10+ times, but this was the biggest trade, and clearly he has his price like you say.

I'm wondering wether it was Angel who scammed you :o

Read again... It's not Angel's panda hammer...

oh sorry

To make things clear; I was the only person scammed in this situation. The other person who I was apparently trading was in on it with Angel, he was the guy with panda hammer.

If you really wanted too, you could actually find out who the trader was since only a limited amount of people (<10?) actually acquire the panda hammer...

Okay, it's one of these two people:
EVIL(STAB)
Traph*(iFreeze)

I'm sure either of them will be happy to take the blame, and argue Angel's innocence, but it's one of them. The name could change though.

The 2 of these chars are married. Does anyone know of any relation of these 2 to Angel?

scam partners lol

I actually think this could have been a 3 way thing. I really didn't stand a chance. It's the fact that Angel had to go AFK at the exact second where I was trapped in the cage and unable to retrieve my items that makes his guilt undeniable. I'll admit it's very clever and he could have gotten away with this if I wasn't on the ball.

Sorry, I laughed.

This wasn't Angel in XOXO....he took over trading for me and I know for a fact he has no access to a panda hammer. People pose all the time, please ensure your facts are accurate before you slander players in this manner.

Volder--- screw it.

NO he is my co-leader, XOXO and XOXO2 are my gangs

If HE is a coleader of a gang called XOXO sorry but the chances are pretty high he's gey

He didn't have a panda hammer, the trader did.

That's pretty presumptuous...so now the guild name makes you gay? Every person in my gang is male...this means Lay, Lava, Chaotic, Angel, iMoney, Lord Bryson, yep all of them are gay because they are in my gang. Think about how ridiculous that sounds. He was kind enough to keep the gang going for me while I am inactive, I better warn him that also affected his sexual preference...

What's so bad about being gay...?

Nothing at all, but assuming someone has a specific preference because of a gang name is ridiculous.

What MAN would name his guild XOXO?

Did you miss that the gang is mine...I named it. And yeah, I am as female as they come! I never thought about the poor guys in the gang getting harassed over the name, nobody has ever complained and it doesn't deter people from asking to be recruited. It is a social gang (along with XOXO 2) so I didn't see the need for a "manly" name lol. I have to giggle how this scam thread turned to sexual preferences and my feminine gang name...

Happy bday btw iHot:)

Lol come on a guy named Angel with XOXO in his name. Might as well slap a tight blue and white v neck on him along with some skin tight jeans and call him gay!

Thanks! (for the bday wish) :D

It isn't is his name lol, they were just identifying that he is in the gang XOXO;p

Why wouldn't they put out his actual name??? :sarcastic:

You're jumping to conclusions.
Angel wouldn't scam, at least that's what I believe.
And whoever said that evil and traph were a part of this scam, how do you tie them with all of this?
I really don't agree with this thread at all.
I don't see any proof, and until I do, I'm not going to believe these accusions.

This totally reminds me of this clip....NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT...http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=GZPcG...%3DGZPcGapl2dM

I only read the OP, and all I have to say is
What's the point? I'm pretty sure almost no one on here trades and people scam/get scammed all the time. To me it just seems like you're trying to ruin his reputation because you lost a item from an accident. I know, I'm being harsh, but I'm just so fed up with all the complaints about scams; if you don't want to get scammed, don't trade.

Are you one?

Be gone Demon!

Ok.

Nothing will be done, if you want a fair trade go to ncj's house. I learned the hardway, everyone always learns the hard way.

Omg ikr

lol a scam thread, xoxo you say? not suprised,

voldemort got here quick

pics?
no proof to back it up? you have baseless accusations. you are even confused as to who the perpetrator is. it all just looks like slander imo.
and what's with the criticism of xoxo and this homophobic bull****? you forget you play a game managed by a gay and he's a great person.

you people ._.

What I thought of when I read the thread title: OMG THIS DUDE SCAMMED ME CHECK LOGS GIVE BACK ITEM JWWNFKESUXNAJ

What I thought of when I read the thred: OMG THIS DUDE SCAMMED ME CHECK LOGS GIVE BACK ITEM JWWNFKESUXNAJ

Seriously though. Respected or not, scamming is legal. Do what I do and don't drop.

Really fsh...I have never scammed and will not tolerate it from my gang...I know better.

what do you mean by you "dont tolerate it"
because you obviously do,