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iRobot 01-30-2013 04:04 PM

Petition: Full Gun Refunds
 
I have payed real money for things such as pbp. Now, admits decide to nerf them, or simply make them useless. This also goes towards other items such as melees, and other guns. Please admins, make n option to make a full refund to the players who have bought the guns that have either been nerfed, or useless

Ghettoicedtea 01-30-2013 04:28 PM

No you still have the gun

Qwillzilla 01-30-2013 04:47 PM

Pbp got nerfed?!

Ghettoicedtea 01-30-2013 04:49 PM

Yes now deal with it. Its better this way

lord greg 01-30-2013 05:34 PM

Stop whining. It means the game is balanced and people can continue to play. You still own the item and when you bought it nothing said that it would not be changed.

Kenny* 01-30-2013 06:26 PM

what was the nerf

Shock 01-30-2013 06:52 PM

#nerfitcorrectlyplease

Richard 01-30-2013 07:36 PM

Quote:

Posted by lord greg (Post 289645)
Stop whining. It means the game is balanced and people can continue to play. You still own the item and when you bought it nothing said that it would not be changed.

People continued to play anyway?

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Posted by Kenny* (Post 289672)
what was the nerf

Clip size dropped to 20 and the damage was taken down quite a bit.

Talon 01-30-2013 08:06 PM

I don't play anymore, but I don't see the problem in having like 2-3 lifetime refund tokens per account - unless Era has been low on income lately.

Bobby Ray B.o.B 01-30-2013 08:56 PM

Quote:

Posted by Talon (Post 289700)
I don't play anymore, but I don't see the problem in having like 2-3 lifetime refund tokens per account - unless Era has been low on income lately.

^^

Rockstar 01-30-2013 09:12 PM

Meph is trying to make it good with you, good with the server, but when he changes it you just completely go off,
The gun is overpowered ask me i say remove it at all.

Jester Lapse 01-30-2013 09:38 PM

Quote:

Posted by Talon (Post 289700)
I don't play anymore, but I don't see the problem in having like 2-3 lifetime refund tokens per account - unless Era has been low on income lately.

Era makes more $ than classic.

I agree on being prompted to refund your gun if it gets nerfed. I buy a gun to use it for what it can do. I buy the OP guns to be OP (even though I never really used them anyways). If the PBP was what it is now, back when it first came out, not many people would have bought it. I agree that it's a pain in the ass and a loss of money from the players side, but changes needed to be made. I don't see why a refund would be "bad", they are not giving you your rl money back, just Gralats, which is the equivalent of what you would have if you never bought the gun in the first place. The money stays within the game, so I don't understand why it has never caught on before lol.

poorface 01-30-2013 10:31 PM

I understand where you're coming from, but a full refund should not be given, even if refunds were; you still got to use it when it was OP and made plenty of kills and money (from body parts) from it.

Tizy 01-30-2013 10:37 PM

I like the refund, it's not just for guns is it? Cause I bought the pirate hammer and it sucks now....... I'd rather choose a sten :3

But you could only refund guns 1-2 times

failure 01-30-2013 10:38 PM

Should only be partial refund.
What poorface said.
You spend money on it, you gotta be sure you want it.

Jester Lapse 01-30-2013 10:40 PM

I am sure they wanted it when it was good lol. One day they will release a gun for 500k and many will buy it, then they will nerf it.

it looks like they put a high price and make the gun good just to get people to buy it, then when the income is coming to a crawl for that gun they nerf it and don't give a ****. Of course that is not the case, but it does appear that way.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 01-30-2013 10:44 PM

Never going to happen, otherwise players would refund all their guns, and never have to buy/work for packs since they refund and buy new guns, get bored of a gun, refund them for more money to buy different guns.

iRobot 01-31-2013 01:49 AM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 289824)
Never going to happen, otherwise players would refund all their guns, and never have to buy/work for packs since they refund and buy new guns, get bored of a gun, refund them for more money to buy different guns.

They bought the guns with moms credit card. They would still be making a lot of money even with refunds

You're point is invalid

poorface 01-31-2013 01:54 AM

He means that once people buy an x amount of items, they'll never have to buy or earn more money; they would just refund their stuff for new things, decide new things aren't good enough, sell the new thing, and rebuy old things, or they would keep the new thing and deal with losing their old stuff

Talon 01-31-2013 01:59 AM

Quote:

Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 289824)
Never going to happen, otherwise players would refund all their guns, and never have to buy/work for packs since they refund and buy new guns, get bored of a gun, refund them for more money to buy different guns.

This.

To an extent.

Chris Zephlyn 01-31-2013 02:21 AM

Quote:

Posted by failure (Post 289818)
Should only be partial refund.
What poorface said.
You spend money on it, you gotta be sure you want it.

I agree with failure 99.8%. Also, if you want a pbp just for pking..why? Kills dosn't show your true skills.

Jester Lapse 01-31-2013 02:32 AM

What's the point of buying a gun then if killing isn't? Lmao

Bobby Ray B.o.B 01-31-2013 02:32 AM

Quote:

Posted by poorface (Post 289810)
I understand where you're coming from, but a full refund should not be given, even if refunds were; you still got to use it when it was OP and made plenty of kills and money (from body parts) from it.

Half price just like the customs!

Vince Canavi 01-31-2013 06:08 AM

Welcome to graal after (how many years) of development hopefully it is worth the wait


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