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Vudu 01-16-2013 10:03 PM

Graal Online Android Update?
 
I have read many forums about the requirements of the game and a bunch of other stuff. But that was around June of last year with all the post. I've had no device to play but I will be more than pleased to hear some new updates(: I'll love to hear what people herd or what they think will happen(:

Bloathed 01-17-2013 12:00 AM

dont think expansion on adroid will happen

Kiwi 01-17-2013 12:15 AM

I'm fairly sure the only updates that people on these forums will know of are already on these forums somewhere. Just search.

Vudu 01-17-2013 12:19 AM

I seen them all, but I would love to see what people have to say(: it gets me a little excited cause there's not many good MMORPG's on the Play Store:/

Its been confirmed that it will be on the Android Client

hosler 01-17-2013 12:50 AM

Graal is waiting so long. Some other similar game will come to claim that market.

Vudu 01-17-2013 01:46 AM

Games have tried to do so. But yet they have failed their expectations, and yet doesn't seems as crisp and fluid as Graal. Remember that Graal has been in the game since 98'

Robert. 01-17-2013 12:41 PM

It's complicated. If you would put Android and Apple player on one Server it would cause a lot of lag. If you would put them on two Server it would cause that we need way more Staff which is also impossible because the Server-Manager can only focus on one server, the communitys (Graal Facebook, Forums etc would have two communitys... Because the Apple players doesn't know the Android players, they would have different themes etc. Just wouldn't work because the Android players would stay away from the Apple players and so Graal iClassic iPhone and Graal iClassic Android would become two different games in time and the forum would need 2 different main forums) and it would cause the Apple vs Android fight. It would ruin the community.

Craig 01-17-2013 01:55 PM

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Posted by Robert. (Post 281130)
It would ruin the community.

I don't think so, the community would grow and it would become more unique.

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Posted by Robert. (Post 281130)
Graal iClassic iPhone and Graal iClassic Android

This "i" in Graal stands for iPods, iPads, iPhones by the way, so it wouldn't/shouldn't be called "Graal iClassic Android", but this is non-sense I know lol.

Robert. 01-17-2013 02:04 PM

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Posted by Prynce (Post 281153)
I don't think so, the community would grow and it would become more unique.

It would. Because you have no idea anout what the Android players are talking about and the same on the other way but you had to share the forums etc.

When they talk about players, admins and so on an Apple player would never know what they mean. There would be two different communitys.

Also the Staff thing. Every Server has a manager. And he can't focus on two servers. And if I was a manager of a server i have been working on for some years I wouldn't just tive the Server to a different person. Also Android players wouldn't have LATs, GFXs, SFXs, Ganis etc cuz the community would not know anything. So also no GMs.

MrSimons 01-17-2013 03:08 PM

I think Robert explained it nicely.

Furryamigo 01-17-2013 03:14 PM

I don't see how it would cause lag

Pauli 01-17-2013 03:17 PM

So far i know the will use the same Server as for the iOS and facebook Players.
They thought with Classic Facebook that there will be a lot of more Players but the Server had always 30-60 Players, the same thing will be with Android.
It will take a bit till there will be more Players.
The server can handle a lot of players, and there will be no Server~Lag.

About the release date,
it's Eurocenter they never had a correct release Date, there was always something that delayed it.
Someday we will see a Graal Android.

Ash Ketchum 01-17-2013 04:14 PM

Wait I don't understand. You're saying that the android is another race of human being then IOS players? Why would it cause lag, the only lag that will happen is the player count

Rexx 01-17-2013 04:17 PM

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Posted by Furryamigo (Post 281164)
I don't see how it would cause lag

Yeah really. What is this magic lag that would occur if there was an Android version? Facebook and iOS are on the same server so really whats the difference if Android can access it?

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Posted by Robert. (Post 281156)
Also the Staff thing. Every Server has a manager. And he can't focus on two servers. And if I was a manager of a server i have been working on for some years I wouldn't just tive the Server to a different person. Also Android players wouldn't have LATs, GFXs, SFXs, Ganis etc cuz the community would not know anything. So also no GMs.

All they would need is someone to copy and paste the updates from the iPhone version. And if Android was on the same server then nothing would need to be done at all. Probably just app optimizations that would be done by Stefan or someone else.

Bringing in the Android community would open the door for many people to learn about levels, graphics, gani'ing and such. It's not like people can't learn, the iPhone community is proof of that.

Agito Baka 01-17-2013 04:26 PM

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Posted by Robert. (Post 281156)
It would. Because you have no idea anout what the Android players are talking about and the same on the other way but you had to share the forums etc.

When they talk about players, admins and so on an Apple player would never know what they mean. There would be two different communitys.

Also the Staff thing. Every Server has a manager. And he can't focus on two servers. And if I was a manager of a server i have been working on for some years I wouldn't just tive the Server to a different person. Also Android players wouldn't have LATs, GFXs, SFXs, Ganis etc cuz the community would not know anything. So also no GMs.

I agree 100%

Craig 01-17-2013 04:36 PM

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Posted by Robert. (Post 281156)
It would. Because you have no idea anout what the Android players are talking about and the same on the other way but you had to share the forums etc.

When they talk about players, admins and so on an Apple player would never know what they mean. There would be two different communitys.

Also the Staff thing. Every Server has a manager. And he can't focus on two servers. And if I was a manager of a server i have been working on for some years I wouldn't just tive the Server to a different person. Also Android players wouldn't have LATs, GFXs, SFXs, Ganis etc cuz the community would not know anything. So also no GMs.

How is this ruining a community? they don't share things, they don't even have to, but the community(communities) won't get any harm..

hosler 01-17-2013 04:41 PM

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Posted by Robert. (Post 281130)
It's complicated. If you would put Android and Apple player on one Server it would cause a lot of lag. If you would put them on two Server it would cause that we need way more Staff which is also impossible because the Server-Manager can only focus on one server, the communitys (Graal Facebook, Forums etc would have two communitys... Because the Apple players doesn't know the Android players, they would have different themes etc. Just wouldn't work because the Android players would stay away from the Apple players and so Graal iClassic iPhone and Graal iClassic Android would become two different games in time and the forum would need 2 different main forums) and it would cause the Apple vs Android fight. It would ruin the community.

That assessment is ******ed

Xenthic 01-17-2013 05:06 PM

Graal would get to crowded and laggy if graal was released for android devices. :/

iChronic 01-17-2013 06:08 PM

how would it cause lagg? i know a few other games that are both on android and iphone servers and they seem to run fine..

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Posted by Rexx (Post 281178)
Facebook and iOS are on the same server so really whats the difference if Android can access it?


All they would need is someone to copy and paste the updates from the iPhone version. And if Android was on the same server then nothing would need to be done at all. Probably just app optimizations that would be done by Stefan or someone else.

ye i thought the servers would work like that 0.0 im confused..

Rezon 01-17-2013 06:11 PM

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Posted by Robert. (Post 281130)
It's complicated. If you would put Android and Apple player on one Server it would cause a lot of lag. If you would put them on two Server it would cause that we need way more Staff which is also impossible because the Server-Manager can only focus on one server, the communitys (Graal Facebook, Forums etc would have two communitys... Because the Apple players doesn't know the Android players, they would have different themes etc. Just wouldn't work because the Android players would stay away from the Apple players and so Graal iClassic iPhone and Graal iClassic Android would become two different games in time and the forum would need 2 different main forums) and it would cause the Apple vs Android fight. It would ruin the community.

what?

Robert. 01-17-2013 06:34 PM

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Posted by Rexx (Post 281178)

Yeah really. What is this magic lag that would occur if there was an Android version? Facebook and iOS are on the same server so really whats the difference if Android can access it?

All they would need is someone to copy and paste the updates from the iPhone version. And if Android was on the same server then nothing would need to be done at all. Probably just app optimizations that would be done by Stefan or someone else.

Bringing in the Android community would open the door for many people to learn about levels, graphics, gani'ing and such. It's not like people can't learn, the iPhone community is proof of that.

The Apple community is 4 years old. Try to explain new players what Levels even are.

If Graal will be released for Android it would be way better to put them on one Server and try to make the Server-Lag less.
The Android vs Apple fight might be impossible to surround anyways.

Rexx 01-17-2013 06:40 PM

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Posted by Robert. (Post 281226)
The Apple community is 4 years old. Try to explain new players what Levels even are.

If Graal will be released for Android it would be way better to put them on one Server and try to make the Server-Lag less.
The Android vs Apple fight might be impossible to surround anyways.

...
I said they can learn just like the iPhone players did.
Apple vs Android fight? I don't think anyone really cares about that in Graal.

twilit 01-17-2013 08:03 PM

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Posted by Robert. (Post 281130)
It's complicated. If you would put Android and Apple player on one Server it would cause a lot of lag. If you would put them on two Server it would cause that we need way more Staff which is also impossible because the Server-Manager can only focus on one server, the communitys (Graal Facebook, Forums etc would have two communitys... Because the Apple players doesn't know the Android players, they would have different themes etc. Just wouldn't work because the Android players would stay away from the Apple players and so Graal iClassic iPhone and Graal iClassic Android would become two different games in time and the forum would need 2 different main forums) and it would cause the Apple vs Android fight. It would ruin the community.

What?... yes the entire game has to be translated from C++ to Java, but thats about it..Why would you dump adroid on a new server? Playing on iClassic server on PC via facebook (and later skyrider) was introduced a little over a year ago, and the same server is shared. Introducing Adroid as a platform would be no different. And the same "arguments" happen between iPhone vs PC.

Dusty 01-17-2013 08:20 PM

According to Stefan, Android hasn't been released because he fears it may possibly under bad circumstances maybe not do too well. We all know it's much more expensive to develop and publish for Android, so I hope you understand his hesitation.

http://i2.minus.com/i5Qd2sek4SNR5.jpg

Dusty 01-17-2013 08:21 PM

Also, in other news, it's funny to sit and read the iPlayers sense of entitlement with shoddy excuses. It's like ****ing Instagram all over again.

Vudu 01-17-2013 08:24 PM

I honestly think more the players is a better community. The Android community is very flexible. People give games that have no potential or a little on Android. So imagine it for Grasp? Plus more the $$$ easier to update the servers to handle more than enough players.

Also I'm not a Android fan boy. I own both iPad and a Android phone and tablet

hosler 01-17-2013 10:10 PM

If graal went to Android you would all become badass oldbies.

Vudu 01-18-2013 12:01 AM

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Posted by hosler (Post 281332)
If graal went to Android you would all become badass oldbies.

Why the"If" when its been proven its in development and will release?

hosler 01-18-2013 12:16 AM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 281269)
We all know it's much more expensive to develop and publish for Android

You have it backwards

Vudu 01-18-2013 12:37 AM

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Posted by hosler (Post 281394)
You have it backwards

Made absolutely no sence

Pazx 01-18-2013 12:41 AM

all these people without avatars or signatures are scrubs

Vudu 01-18-2013 12:46 AM

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Posted by Pazx (Post 281404)
all these people without avatars or signatures are scrubs

Or doesn't have the time to do it?

Pazx 01-18-2013 12:55 AM

scrub a dub dub 2 noobz in a tub

hosler 01-18-2013 02:33 AM

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Posted by Vudu (Post 281402)
Made absolutely no sence

Costs more to keep an iphone app on the market.

iChronic 01-18-2013 05:03 AM

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Posted by twilit (Post 281267)
What?... yes the entire game has to be translated from C++ to Java, but thats about it..Why would you dump adroid on a new server? Playing on iClassic server on PC via facebook (and later skyrider) was introduced a little over a year ago, and the same server is shared. Introducing Adroid as a platform would be no different. And the same "arguments" happen between iPhone vs PC.

i was thinking this too..Robert's argument about lagg is getting me confused :angry:.. someone explain the lagg part?

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Posted by Dusty (Post 281270)
Also, in other news, it's funny to sit and read the iPlayers sense of entitlement with shoddy excuses. It's like ****ing Instagram all over again.

who are you referring to?

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Posted by Robert. (Post 281226)
The Apple community is 4 years old. Try to explain new players what Levels even are.

If Graal will be released for Android it would be way better to put them on one Server and try to make the Server-Lag less.
The Android vs Apple fight might be impossible to surround anyways.

i thought levels from iOS would be compatible for pc or android..or would there be a different level editor for android?

wouldnt making a new server just for android be expensive? and why is there need for making a new server when you can synchronise ios and android servers,im sure lagg isnt the problem here...

Santa Claus 01-18-2013 06:29 AM

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Yami 01-18-2013 02:14 PM

Skyld was working on this a while back, i think over a year or so. He said that the client was "done" but still had bug's being worked out. I'm not sure what happend to this project, all i can input is that Skyld was working on it for a while, and did get a client running on his android device.

I can't say that Graal also making an android app would be a good thing, but you are tapping a large population that does use android. (aswell as all the bootleg crap that uses androids software to put in there plastic frames.)

M4rkus 01-18-2013 02:35 PM

i will buy 1 android device soon
so if you made this app for android it would be GREAT! :)

Vudu 01-18-2013 02:44 PM

I still don't understand the disagreement.. It can bring some great players on the server. Remember too, some old pc players could have an Android device and actually get to play a legit experience than on Facebook


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