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Edward 01-14-2013 11:29 PM

Sense of scammers
 
This is to help the people who can't tell scammers from trust worthy people and the ones without "common sense". I will be telling you guys scammers to becareful of. The reason i'm giving this info is because i actually care :P!

Now the people who have people's statues that say "legit" are usually fake, no matter how many they have. If they have a real admin statue than maybe...they're for real but besides that, don't trust'em.

Also, if someone says they'll give you two rares for the one you have and drop it, thats most likely a scam also. I mean who the hell gives 2 rares just for one? I mean unless its like an omega rare(not real, just an expression) than just no..

Another clear fakey is people who invite for auction and what not, total bull. All the auctions i've been invited to i've seen people kicked and scammed, in fact a scammer(someone i knew) said to someone that i thought he was legit, of course i didn't know this until the guy who was scammed blamed me. Becareful of these things people, i see 5+ people scammed a day, its crazy.

One last thing is i've noticed that scammers do is date someone with a rare that they want and just to get a freaken pixelated item, they use someone for there stupid wants, so for the ones that DO date online, becareful with who you're getting close to..

Now for the scammers i know of. NaTHaN, and icey. Yes i know, its only two people. I don't keep track of names, i may remember if i see it again but otherwise i'll know whats bound to happen. Now, they even may change their look and name, if you want me to watch and approve wether or not i trust them, sure go ahead. If any of you who actually g.a.f about this, post scammers below.

Ways you can help: Put in your status who scams(like some do already) and if not, at least tell someone(if during an auction) if in your opinion you trust them, if they don't believe you and they get scammed? That's their fault. And if someone may say they'll show proof, it could be a friend of there's, you never know.

Hope this helps in some sort of way to prevent scammers being successful. If you've been named, oh well. Life goes on.

P.S: If this decreases the activity of trading, i'm sorry for trying to be helpful to the community. Even if i get bad comments on this topic, all i know is i was able to help those who want/need it.

P.P.S: My grammar probably sucks, my bad. Been home from school cause of surgery, if this bothers you, don't read my posts.

Garrett* 01-14-2013 11:39 PM

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh0i1dq1ocM

failure 01-14-2013 11:48 PM

Nice guide.
Pretty much anyone you see will scam you.
Just some plain advice from me is to never trade unless you know them in real life.
Even if they are a close friend that you met online. Don't trade.
Actually, go ahead and trade, just don't EVER drop first or at the same time.
Having people spectate does NOT help. No matter how "famous" a person is.
Remember: scamming is legal, don't be a victim and cry about it.
Most everyone has scammed at one point in their graal career. I know I have.

And I would post names of scammers, but I've only been scammed once, seen one scam (but I won't mention his name because he SEEMS to have changed), and heard about a lot of scams.

Aebb* 01-14-2013 11:50 PM

We already knew all of this. It's not news, duplicating old threads for rep isn't the way to go

Edward 01-14-2013 11:55 PM

Quote:

Posted by Aebb* (Post 279480)
We already knew all of this. It's not news, duplicating old threads for rep isn't the way to go

"The reason i'm giving this info is because i actually care!"

Quote:

Posted by failure (Post 279479)
Nice guide.
Pretty much anyone you see will scam you.
Just some plain advice from me is to never trade unless you know them in real life.
Even if they are a close friend that you met online. Don't trade.
Actually, go ahead and trade, just don't EVER drop first or at the same time.
Having people spectate does NOT help. No matter how "famous" a person is.
Remember: scamming is legal, don't be a victim and cry about it.
Most everyone has scammed at one point in their graal career. I know I have.

And I would post names of scammers, but I've only been scammed once, seen one scam (but I won't mention his name because he SEEMS to have changed), and heard about a lot of scams.

Glad you care and gave out your point! I'm sure people will consider your view man. But ya, i gotta agree on that except i honestly was never scammed, i never trade lol.

failure 01-15-2013 12:38 AM

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Posted by Edward (Post 279482)
"The reason i'm giving this info is because i actually care!"



Glad you care and gave out your point! I'm sure people will consider your view man. But ya, i gotta agree on that except i honestly was never scammed, i never trade lol.

Well I wasn't actually scammed. I let a friend borrow my umbrella awhile back and he ran off with it. Not sure what to call that.

Edward 01-15-2013 09:05 AM

Lol, i guess an I.O.U? Can't see how you borrow a rare lol, but thats a pretty bad friend. Sorry for you pal.

Zay 01-15-2013 10:24 AM

I go to player hosted auctions for one point : seeing people get scammed .

Edward 01-15-2013 11:07 AM

Thats what i see all the time, they invite everybody to their house for auction and then get scammed. Thats why i don't trust player auctions.

Graal943 01-15-2013 12:30 PM

You do have a point of being cautious so you don't get scammed, but it seems Garrett posted a link of my hacking video, which is something you will all need to be wary about now, you can no longer trust anyone. Never drop items in your house or leave them unattended. If you do drop something, keep an eye on players in your house, never speak with an item dropped because it gives an open window for a hacker to run by things and steal the item as well.

Zay 01-15-2013 12:54 PM

I got hack scammed once - basically they used some kind of software , when he waited for me to type , he teleported to my item and got off with it...

Edward 01-15-2013 01:17 PM

Thank you for your tip Mr.Hacker :P but i never drop my items so i need not to worry. People will be more cautious(hopefully) after reading this.

Graal943 01-15-2013 02:39 PM

Quote:

Posted by Zay (Post 279826)
I got hack scammed once - basically they used some kind of software , when he waited for me to type , he teleported to my item and got off with it...

It's basically what I do, but increasing/decreasing the x and y variables in a slightly different way.

Edward 01-15-2013 03:16 PM

Certainly can't do anything about that but just to worn people about this.

Graal943 01-15-2013 04:16 PM

Quote:

Posted by Edward (Post 279856)
Certainly can't do anything about that but just to worn people about this.

There are a few ways actually to prevent yourself from being scammed this way. The way I showed people only works with decreasing the x or y variables, which for x would be going left and for y going up, so if you are in your own house and are going to trade, do not let the person you are trading with be below where the item(s) are or to the right, making it to where they can not walk through anything that blocks them thats are below them or to the right of them.

Edward 01-16-2013 03:49 AM

Ah, this is, again, great information for the ones who trade. Truly appreciated!

Graal943 01-16-2013 03:56 AM

Quote:

Posted by Edward (Post 280285)
Ah, this is, again, great information for the ones who trade. Truly appreciated!

Well, I never shared the hack with the intentions of getting people scammed in a new way, I did it so people can at least have a little fun. Like in my 2 other videos, all I did was mess with the staff members until I finally got jailed. But I don't mind being jailed because it gives me time to be away from Graal.

Edward 01-16-2013 04:19 AM

We'll now the Graalians know, and i'm sure they're pleased with you telling them this. Also helped myself incase I ever consider trading one day.

Aebb* 01-16-2013 04:48 AM

You kids are ******ed, scamming will always be there, I've requested an admin to close this thread

Edward 01-16-2013 05:00 AM

*ignores* I'm glad to have posted this for you guys, haha i've seen too many scams. I know its unlikely scamming will 100% stop, but I'm sure it'll settle down to the point it won't really be talked about. Thats what i'm hoping for.

Aebb* 01-16-2013 05:02 AM

LOL this silly post won't settle shiet, you are an idiot, scamming will NEVER be reduced one bit, leave the forums please

Graal943 01-16-2013 05:03 AM

Quote:

Posted by Aebb* (Post 280354)
You kids are ******ed, scamming will always be there, I've requested an admin to close this thread

No one ever said that this would nullify scamming, scamming will always exist. But I gave info on how to not get yourself scammed by someone using a hack to decrease the x and y variables of the client.

So it seems you're the one who is "******ed" for not understanding what we said through out this thread.

Aebb* 01-16-2013 05:03 AM

noob

Graal943 01-16-2013 05:11 AM

Typical response from someone who has nothing else to say because they cannot comprehend what is plainly being told to them.

Edward 01-16-2013 05:16 AM

And those of you who are looking for that way of not being scammed, of course you can look here in this thread. Only giving tips to those who may not be looking forward to being scammed. Hense why I made this thread.

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Posted by Graal943 (Post 280381)
Typical response from someone who has nothing else to say because they cannot comprehend what is plainly being told to them.

Just ignore him, he'll continue to pounce on this thread and if we pounce back it will be deleted. We all have acknowledged his ignorance before. Let us just keep topic to the thread.

ArtaXerXes 01-16-2013 05:22 AM

Great thread! I don't really play iEra but I'm pretty sure this thread will help others! I would suggest the thread be moved to 'iEra Future Improvements' though.

*iEra FAQs/Guides section sorry >_<

Edward 01-16-2013 05:30 AM

Not really a guide persay..but more like just some tips for people that could possibly be scammed. I'm sure it'd possibly be more viewed their, but as of its place now. I'm sure its fine. But thanks arta =)! Haha i try my best to think of such threads.

iChronic 01-17-2013 12:13 AM

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this guy was claiming that someone hacked his account and stole ALL his items..ironic how he still has a taser :P

Edward 01-17-2013 02:58 AM

A
 
Quote:

Posted by iChronic (Post 280891)
this guy was claiming that someone hacked his account and stole ALL his items..ironic how he still has a taser :P

We'll there truly is no explanation for this

Graal943 01-28-2013 01:49 PM

Well I'm bringing back this forum because I have found a new way to change my location.

I have found a way to warp by setting my x and y variables. Their is no way for anyone to stop this but this is just to warn everyone to be careful and not trust anyone now.

Later I'll post a video on proving that its possible to do this.

Xenthic 01-28-2013 02:16 PM

Before I get scammed my spidey sense are tingerling O_o.

Jayangel 02-28-2013 03:36 PM

I've heard

Dope* 02-28-2013 04:00 PM

Could someone tell me why dont they just remove the "drop" button? I know its stupid but its a better way to stop scammer.

iDigzy 02-28-2013 04:47 PM

Quote:

Posted by Dope*
Could someone tell me why dont they just remove the "drop" button? I know its stupid but its a better way to stop scammer.

Items are for "gifting" not "trading". Just use them for gifting or only trade very good friends, if you trade just prepare to get scammed and don't complain about it. Simple.

Chris Zephlyn 02-28-2013 11:14 PM

duuude..scammers..you won't stop them..so why you make threads about this :(


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