The word Gay is unfairly banned
 

Im confused why we arent allowed to say the word gay on graal. Does admins have anything against them? Some admins say it was because it was misused but plenty of other words are misused and not banned.

Also you cant say boobs on graal even though we are celebrating breast cancer awareness.

I think this needs to be changed because some of us have 2 dads and when we are referring to them typing homosexual is too long

The word your mom should also be banned because it is also used unfairly

We should also ban the word Noob because that's so over-used.

Um if you're going to refer to boobs in the context of breast cancer awareness then you would call them breasts..."boobs" is slang and offensive to some women

And the term homosexual is also uncensored...

Nice try but no

My point is it takes too long to type homosexual its easier to type gay. Gay also means happy.

what confuses me most is u cant say hitler but u can say nazi XD

Reading first paragraph... Because stupid idiots love to use it in every insult to feel cool ... Idioti homophobes

I'm surpirsed "sh.it" and "ass" aren't counted as bad words on there.

I am a huge supporter of gay rights having grown up with homosexuals close to me and living in NYC.

Unfortunately the word has been abused a lot and has developed a negative context across Graalonline. It's sadly irritating. That's why it was censored. This was probably before I was staff. I'll see what I can do to reverse that.

I think that's a bad idea.
When people find out the word 'gay' has been unbanned, that's all you're going to see people saying on Graal, and it won't be used in a positive way.

I don't think that's limited to just Graal!

Yeah. Sucks.

Gay = "carefree", "happy", or "bright and showy"
Why remove the word if its meaning is not a bad one?

BECAUSE ITS MISUSED.

Some words have other meanings, as displayed in day to day life.

This is what I planned on typing but you it up very well - its "sadly irritating" the way people use this word as a "cooler?!?" way of saying "bad".

Personally I dont reccomend my gay frends to graal because of this so you guys need to unban it its hurting buisness

Honeslty when would anybody use the word "gay" on Graal, Besides negitive saying? like why would you use the word anyways? "I Am Gay?" im not sure why you guys want it back as a non banned word, players will use the word in a negitive way.. mainly the young ones.

It's pointlessly censored, ppl just say stuff like "gey", The swear filter in all honesty is pointless

A lot of folks use the word "Gay" in a negative or derogatory statement. Same with Boobs - a large percentage of women find this as rude/derogatory.

Let's pile on the fact that a majority of Graal's player-base are below 12 and begin telling their parents these words. Prior to the word filter, I can't tell you how many e-mails I had to respond to about unhappy parents.

We are not re-instating the use of these words. While they may not have any derogatory meaning to you. However, society has deemed them such. I can't change that, sorry.

this thread is gay

OH MY GOD LOL.

That's ****ing hilarious.

Haha my mom told me my 8 year old sister cant play graal anymore because a guy named iHumpster sent her a message saying "hey baby whats your address ill come over there and bang you all night"

The age from pc graal to igraal's age difference is dramatic.. On pc the players age range through 15-20 something like that. Igraal's age ranges through 9-12 mainly. Some of the players dont understand how affective these terms are used againts players.. Its just sad sometimes.. They try to refraze the words as "gey" or "b00bs" or "fk". Its mainly the little 10 year olds just learning these words and they dont understand fully what they meen or how affective they delt..

I don't think anyone uses it in a positive way.

[QUOTE=Azrael;22196 Prior to the word filter, I can't tell you how many e-mails I had to respond to about unhappy parents.[/QUOTE]
holy ****! o.o
children actually play this game!?
I thought most of the community was a bunch of 13+ year old freaks

Like a lot of the above posts said, if you bring the word back it will just be missused. People alredy avoid the swear filter and use it anyways and I see it's missused a lot.

To be honest, i don't know why everyone is angry with the filter system... You can always get past it... No matter how many filters there are..

I'm fine with it lol. Except sometimes when you try to say a sentence it thinks you're avading the swear filter. For example, if you say "Who recruited him?" it will think you're saying wh0re since who and recruited spell it out.

Lol... you too!? xD
I don't think they checked the scripting correctly

Lol ikr.

Let's be real here. Don't say "gay means happy" because the word does not mean the same as it did in the 19th century. In today's vocabulary we've got a double meaning for the word gay: one for homosexuals and one is akin to something that is dumb. If you replace "gay" with a different minority when attempting to insult something it just doesn't come out the same way. When it is used it is not used in a derogatory way towards homosexuals--unlike another three letter word beginning with F--it is a word that this our generation has adopted a double meaning for, like it or not.

When people discuss this topic it's always like, "I hate when people use the word that way, it's so upsetting to gays!" yet I don't know a single gay person that gives a ****. It's the straight people that are all "supportive of gays" who care. By censoring the word however you are (in my opinion) pushing the negative connotation of the derivative onto the sexuality (gay is bad, essentially) and that kind of namby-pamby solution is what keeps the problem you're trying to address alive. People aren't going to abide by your filter, they're going to evade it, so all you're really doing is carrying the connotation. There is a purpose for a cuss filter on this game, but the word "gay" shouldn't be in it. That is why it isn't in the large list of words that are in this forum's filter.

Rufus i'd go as far as to say that *** also went down the same path. When I call someone a ******, it's because they are acting like ****s (yet another word that doesn't mean what it's supposed to), not because they are showing homosexual qualities (although if you wear pink jeans I will jokingly call you a ***).

I hear you NYN but you have those players who act like they are all cool cause they overuse the word gay.

U used to not be able to say grape...

Lol really?

^ g[rape]

That's like saying they shouldn't ban sh*t because it just means poop and no one finds poop all too offensive.

Agreed, i laughed a little when i read some comments that said that. :P

Just another reason I support clientside optional filtering. Giving the player the choice to opt out of censoring means people won't have a reason to avoid it. This means better censoring for the players who DO want words censoring, because it will always be very easy to evade a censor.

^ dusty is right on the money :) and so I support it!

I'd be down with Clientsided Censorship. I'll suggest this idea.

personally i have no problem with gays and i really dont see why it should be banned. alot of people say "gey" and other deviations so its moot point right now

thankz azrael

I think the idea of Clientsided Censorship sounds better then it really is. For starters, i really don't think it's necessary to allow obscene/rude words to anyone in this game anyway. People need to be mature and keep in mind that there are some younger players, and it seems odd to separate the chat into a "swearing" group and a non-"swearing" group. In another light, young people arn't stupid, do you really want them open to a world of obscenities and rude words with a simple adjustment option?

Also, this can put a barrior on conversations in graal. Sometime you need to reword something because it wrongly censors it, thinking your trying to avoid the censorship. The problem this causes is; if you were talking to someone with Clientsided Censorship, you wouldn't know that it censored it, and the other player may get thd wrong idea about what your trying to say. I know the last example is pretty circumstancial, but i can see that happening more then you think. I just think you guys should give this a little more thought. These are just some concerns i have.

Not that many people go around saying obscene things in public. There are still GPs to handle them

That's their perogative. If they want to turn off censorship, then that's up to them. If they're offended by what they hear then obviously the only person at fault is themselves.

These are rare circumstances though. "What the **** did you say?" Do you need to know what the censored word is to understand the sentence? The human brain has the ability to fill in the blanks. Yes, maybe sometimes a censored word can add confusion, but overall that is a rare occurrence.

In the end what you're proposing it seems to be is the current censoring system. The one everyone just evades anyways. Technology can't censor these words people want to say, if they care to actually say it. All it really does is cause annoyance to those who shouldn't be getting censored, just because the letters in what they're saying lined up wrong. So young people get exposed to "***" instead of "****." But if someone were to say, "She was unapologetic until I told her what I knew." they'd be censored. It's a broken system, and it accomplishing nothing that you're trying to take into consideration.

But, by uncensoring it, does it not encourage it?

No, it's the servers fault for allowing such words, and i doubt the child them self would be offended, i'd worry a little more about their parents hearing the cool stuff they read! Keep in mind the age gap of Graal...

No they're NOT allowing such words. They're giving the players the choice to disallow it. If they don't care to use what's provided then yes, it is their fault. Also, parents should be well aware of what children can encounter online. If they don't want their child exposed to such things then they need to intervene... but of course they won't. They'd rather blame everyone but themselves.

In the end what I'm proposing is to keep it the way it is, yes, the one "everyone" just evades anyway. I believe your throwing the term "everyone" around a little loosely, don't you think? There's a difference between joking around with your friends, and raging on a young player because he was laggy in spar. The main fact i'm getting at is that this basically encourages the use of rude words. I know you may not be thinking of this, but i can almost guarantee the use of obscene words will go up drastically if this comes into play.