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MythZ 12-27-2012 03:13 AM

Dissapointed
 
I just have to say I am very dissapointed in the new melee only spar update today. First of all melee isn't even a main feature of zone, they are almost useless. If you want to have a melee spar play classic. They havn't even released a normal spar or squad pvp yet and think by making this useless update they will attract more classic players. I really don't know what to say, I would think staff could tell what is more important atm. Thanks.

JakeRage 12-27-2012 03:13 AM

Release a normal spar too. A gun spar.

Vince Canavi 12-27-2012 03:15 AM

Agreed to both.

iHot 12-27-2012 03:15 AM

Melee only?

slasher 12-27-2012 03:20 AM

Very Dissapointed at the moment with the so called "Big Update" that staff were making a big fuzz about yesterday really I doubt you'll see people sparring there in the future plus does it count for kills or spar ? Doesn't show ?

Angel 12-27-2012 03:21 AM

Muramasa cost $8000 O:!

EKiM 12-27-2012 03:22 AM

And then you guys over price the melee! You act like if we get so much money from missions and such.

PoeticFolly 12-27-2012 03:37 AM

lol

JakeRage 12-27-2012 03:37 AM

If your pulling classic stuff then pull in era stuff too. I was talking to an admin about how they aren't making a gun spar because of the un-equal guns, yet they release a knife for $8,000 that is better than the other. Kinda hypocritical eh?

R. (Crude) 12-27-2012 03:43 AM

I worked hard the past few days to improve my dodging skills and won over 100 showdowns doing so...... and when i logged on to zone and found out we were gunna be sparring with ancient chinese swords instead of LASER GUNS!!!!!!! ..... i nearly threw my device.

And btw.... the arena is not too small for guns its just ur tiny mind.


-Rotaruc with Anger :3

Nezo 12-27-2012 03:47 AM

iZone makes us buy more and more Gralats Packs, I can't even earn 1k in iZone. Unlike Era and Classic where I can earn i one hour, then they set the melee prices so high

Craig 12-27-2012 04:13 AM

I earned about 10k in 12 hours, but yea if you reach level 7 you gain 16 Gralats a mission only..
Level ups should give you a NICE amount of G's too..

Xavier 12-27-2012 05:09 AM

Quote:

Posted by JakeRage (Post 267254)
Release a normal spar too. A gun spar.

*cough* Using swords in spar is "normal" *cough*

This page mentions weapons that launch projectiles nowhere:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparring spar

PoeticFolly 12-27-2012 05:23 AM

Quote:

Posted by Xavier (Post 267393)
*cough* Using swords in spar is "normal" *cough*

This page mentions weapons that launch projectiles nowhere:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparring spar

Graal has no relation to real life. It's a video game. Video games aren't supposed to be anything like real life. They can be whatever they want to be.

iHot 12-27-2012 05:40 AM

Quote:

Posted by Xavier (Post 267393)
*cough* Using swords in spar is "normal" *cough*

This page mentions weapons that launch projectiles nowhere:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparring spar

It's the future.

Just played this spar thing beat a guy with that sword on my first try. Anyways seems boring won't be going back to be honest. Zone has barely over 100 players on. Step it up.

fsh 12-27-2012 08:04 AM

you guys are upset because it said "big update" if it woud'nt have said that nobody would be whining.

G Fatal 12-27-2012 09:35 AM

To be honest my idea was a little different .
also is it me or are zone sword/dagger so slow?make faster? I think melee spar only is better if only they made all melee have same range power etc[and have more of them] -So its fair in spar...and also place spar stats on profile
(this will probably make more play;if do all what i've said)
p.s. 8,000gralats is like very pricey in zone
[many don't want to pay for gralat packs, but be able to earn]...should of been like 1k max.

Fellage 12-27-2012 11:42 AM

New melee = Overpriced

iHot 12-27-2012 02:39 PM

Quote:

Posted by Gricey (Post 267593)
To be honest my idea was a little different .
also is it me or are zone sword/dagger so slow?make faster? I think melee spar only is better if only they made all melee have same range power etc[and have more of them] -So its fair in spar...and also place spar stats on profile
(this will probably make more play;if do all what i've said)
p.s. 8,000gralats is like very pricey in zone
[many don't want to pay for gralat packs, but be able to earn]...should of been like 1k max.

The daggers and swords are very slow. It's what makes it so tedious to do.

NCJohn 12-27-2012 02:52 PM

Yeah the recent weapon prices have been way too hire considering you can hardly make a few gralats. Prices should be low until its actually possible to make for then a few gralats.

Craig 12-27-2012 03:03 PM

And the idea of higher levels = loess money at missions is crap too.

Imprint 12-27-2012 03:44 PM

Kudos to the staff for turning a good idea sour and then releasing an op weapon to top it off.

ESD_Hyaku 12-27-2012 03:44 PM

They could make harder missions that only certain levels could access.
That would also bring more exp and gralats.

Ignatius 12-27-2012 03:50 PM

My friend made 7000 gralats on iEra in 30 minutes. How many gralats can you earn in 30 minutes on iZone? 30.

iZone is made up of the most un-intelligent staff.

Craig 12-27-2012 04:25 PM

Use your non VIP and transfer it then, fastest way to get Gralats without buying those.

Xenthic 12-27-2012 04:34 PM

Zone is literally forcing us to buy gralat packs, it's highest players I've seen is like 170 and 80 of them are AFK If zone keeps up this over priced havoc it's players are gonna drop quickly but what will happen if it gets to like 30 people?!

CHAOS* 12-27-2012 04:54 PM

This is a really bad step for iZone. I will still play this game because I love it, but this is a hideous update. This is supposed to have a little more era in it considering the guns and everything (NOT THE MELEES), and there should not be classic in it. This is a new game, iEra and iclassic were very different, make iZone different too.

Mofujohn 12-27-2012 05:02 PM

On top of this, the gani looks awful...

Ozzy_Magus 12-27-2012 05:02 PM

This is scary...
The game has just started, the first melee they sell costs 8000$, imagine the next melees....
Not to talk about the xmas rifle, which is more expensive than the engaged rifle who does more damage than the xmas rifle...sad.


Knife:5 damage. Price: FREE
Muramasa :7 damage. Price 8000$
---
Engaged rifle: 6 damage. Price :5000$
Xmas rifle: 5 damage. Price :10,000$

^^^^^^^

Johnaudi 12-27-2012 05:09 PM

Quote:

Posted by Ozzy_Magus (Post 267727)
This is scary...
The game has just started, the first melee they sell costs 8000$, imagine the next melees....
Not to talk about the xmas rifle, which is more expensive than the engaged rifle who does more damage than the xmas rifle...sad.


Knife:5 damage. Price: FREE
Muramasa :7 damage. Price 8000$
---
Engaged rifle: 6 damage. Price :5000$
Xmas rifle: 5 damage. Price :10,000$

^^^^^^^

Y u always rite

Craig 12-27-2012 05:19 PM

Noone is forcing you to buy Packs, it's still your decision after all.
If you would be less of a tryhard, you wouldn't critize this much nor would you care, and if you really want to be that much of a tryhard you currently are, you just do missions till you have the $$ you need, and you would be Level 100 by that time too.

Seriously, I don't see why you need to flame/cry/whatever you're doing. You still can refund this app, go and do it if you feel like. You can't expect a game being perfect after the second week it got released, nor can't the staff be.

Of course, I think this is overprized too and Zone might turn into a Fight of the Credit cards, but I don't mind this, I wouldn't even buy that gun if they suddenly lower it. If you're only going to point out the bad factors this game has, then you should refund this app immediately..

Ozzy_Magus 12-27-2012 05:36 PM

We aren't crying, we're saying the truth.
And of course no one expected iZone to be perfect, but it continues like now it will never be. So we (players) are doing this to prevent *** to happen.
The staff has to learn from what the players say.

Craig 12-27-2012 05:46 PM

If staff would listen to players all the time, o god you don't even have a clue.

Ozzy_Magus 12-27-2012 05:48 PM

Quote:

Posted by Prynce (Post 267751)
If staff would listen to players all the time, o god you don't even have a clue.

I do, I really do.
Believe me. I play graal since 2007(pc) and joined iClassic a few months after its release, joined iEra&iZone on their release day.
But some things are just the truth...and you can't hide it/disagree, because it is obvious, like now with the xmas rifle/muramasa.

Craig 12-27-2012 06:14 PM

Quote:

Posted by Ozzy_Magus (Post 267753)
I do, I really do.
Believe me. I play graal since 2007(pc) and joined iClassic a few months after its release, joined iEra&iZone on their release day.
But some things are just the truth...and you can't hide it/disagree, because it is obvious, like now with the xmas rifle/muramasa.


Oh really, how interesting? I don't give a crap where you're from, and I could tell you when I started with Graal , it would be nothing but off topic.

And I'm not hiding nor disagreeing with those things, but if you can't afford those, you can't afford those. Get a job and things'll change maybe. Otherwise beg your parents for some cash or just do the missions.,. who cares if they give you only 16G, be happy they give you something atleast.

Most of you have such a rude/negative/blablabla sound in your replies, which aren't only annoying and/or pissing me off.

Ozzy_Magus 12-27-2012 06:17 PM

Quote:

Posted by Prynce (Post 267777)
Oh really, how interesting? I don't give a crap where you're from, and I could tell you when I started with Graal , it would be nothing but off topic.

And I'm not hiding nor disagreeing with those things, but if you can't afford those, you can't afford those. Get a job and things'll change maybe. Otherwise beg your parents for some cash or just do the missions.,. who cares if they give you only 16G, be happy they give you something atleast.

Most of you have such a rude/negative/blablabla sound in your replies, which aren't only annoying and/or pissing me off.

Wow?lol.
The only one being rude here is you.
Ignoring you from now on, because you can't properly read a post and get all crazy. Seriously dude, calm down.
And who here said something bad/negative?No one. We're just tryin' to help, say what is.

Fellage 12-27-2012 06:24 PM

Quote:

Posted by Ozzy_Magus (Post 267727)
This is scary...
The game has just started, the first melee they sell costs 8000$, imagine the next melees....
Not to talk about the xmas rifle, which is more expensive than the engaged rifle who does more damage than the xmas rifle...sad.


Knife:5 damage. Price: FREE
Muramasa :7 damage. Price 8000$
---
Engaged rifle: 6 damage. Price :5000$
Xmas rifle: 5 damage. Price :10,000$

^^^^^^^

Sums it up pretty well. Althought I doubt the staff are going to lower the prices and refund players who have already bought them. I just can't see that happening.

Ozzy_Magus 12-27-2012 06:47 PM

@Prynce.
Players have the right to say what they think.
Because having an opinion is not illegal.
You're the one being negative, and having a rude attitude.
If we'd follow your ****, it'd be like "yes,yes,yes,everything is good".
Nope.
You have your own opinion and we don't bash you for that, so don't be an ass.

Aaron 12-27-2012 06:50 PM

I havn't been able to log on, but by the sound of thngs, i lke the spar. It adds a touch of classic, instead of being all Era-like. Good job Zone staff.

Ozzy_Magus 12-27-2012 07:00 PM

Quote:

Posted by Taevin (Post 267808)
I havn't been able to log on, but by the sound of thngs, i lke the spar. It adds a touch of classic, instead of being all Era-like. Good job Zone staff.

You're right.
But zone has guns and melees, there will be both (spars).

CHAOS* 12-27-2012 07:07 PM

Quote:

Posted by Prynce (Post 267777)
Oh really, how interesting? I don't give a crap where you're from, and I could tell you when I started with Graal , it would be nothing but off topic.

And I'm not hiding nor disagreeing with those things, but if you can't afford those, you can't afford those. Get a job and things'll change maybe. Otherwise beg your parents for some cash or just do the missions.,. who cares if they give you only 16G, be happy they give you something atleast.

Most of you have such a rude/negative/blablabla sound in your replies, which aren't only annoying and/or pissing me off.

Shut the hell up you ignorant little **** I doubt you have a job either

Era News 12-27-2012 07:17 PM

Quote:

Posted by Prynce (Post 267777)

Oh really, how interesting? I don't give a crap where you're from, and I could tell you when I started with Graal , it would be nothing but off topic.

And I'm not hiding nor disagreeing with those things, but if you can't afford those, you can't afford those. Get a job and things'll change maybe. Otherwise beg your parents for some cash or just do the missions.,. who cares if they give you only 16G, be happy they give you something atleast.

Most of you have such a rude/negative/blablabla sound in your replies, which aren't only annoying and/or pissing me off.

Lol even though I hate ozzy I agree with him on this one, shut the hell up prynce you ignorent duche bag

MythZ 12-27-2012 07:29 PM

Lets just hope staff can decide what the server really needs right now *cough* Normal Spar , Squad PvP, More missions, And fix the pvp events.

Craig 12-27-2012 07:55 PM

So, I'm the rude now? lol.

You act as if you're forced to buy every gun they release, and to buy Gralat Packs. Of course I'm ignorant but did you really think about what you're typing? I wasn't being rude nor was I harming anyone, I'm just pointing out both positive and negative facts, but you're showing mostly, no, only negative aspects about this Christmas shop.
Are you trying to help the staff improve this game to get more players playing it or are you trying to lower prices just because you can't afford those?

fsh 12-27-2012 08:08 PM

it's only been 10 days of release u guys •_•

Ozzy_Magus 12-27-2012 08:12 PM

Quote:

Posted by Prynce (Post 267836)
Are you trying to help the staff improve this game to get more players playing it or are you trying to lower prices just because you can't afford those?

We're OBVIOUSLY trying to help.
Look at this;

[Quote from myself]
Knife:5 damage. Price: FREE
Muramasa :7 damage. Price 8000$
---
Engaged rifle: 6 damage. Price :5000$
Xmas rifle: 5 damage. Price :10,000$
I don't know in how this is crying? look at the damage, price.

Craig 12-27-2012 08:39 PM

Uhm that's showing other players a reason not to buy it, and I read it. Also, it's showing how overprized it is, but you have to add one factor: it's a holiday gun, which means it will be sold once only, may be next christmas but I think other guns will replace this one in one year.

That post of you isn't crying in this case, indeed but there are a lot of posts. And why do you think I'm talking about you? I'm talking about the Zone-community here, which you didn't got after all I assume. You should give more advices tothe staff, the way you present this isn't helping really.

Ozzy_Magus 12-27-2012 08:49 PM

It does help.
It shows what's wrong.
10k for a gun that's worse than a 5k gun, you cannot argue about this.It is ridicoulous.
The first melee that is sold costs 8000$, that is pretty much exagerated.

Craig 12-27-2012 08:58 PM

Did you read this: "Also, it's showing how overprized it is, but you have to add one factor: it's a holiday gun, which means it will be sold once only, may be next christmas but I think other guns will replace this one in one year." I edited it, so mostly you didn't.

Bikerboy 12-27-2012 09:01 PM

What are the benefits of the Xmas rifle?

Is it the same as Engaged rifle? If it is, it's a waste of time and money. Holiday gun? Oooo a gun that have decorations on it. How scary for a price of 10,000.


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