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PoeticFolly 12-25-2012 06:19 AM

The Skype log on why I wasn't hired
 
Well, here is the skype log on why I wasn't hired. I want you to know that I have nothing against any of the staff, except Matt. I had nothing against Matt when he didn't hire me. I disliked him when I found out he lied to me. I don't like liars. I'm not making this thread because I didn't get hired; I'm making it so I can show you all what really happened. If this thread gets deleted and you want to see the log, just message me. It'll be in the spoiler. if you have any questions about it, just post. Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night.
Spoiler
[12/23/2012 1:10 PM] On 12/23/2012, at 12:47 PM, MattKan wrote:
>[3:23:20 PM] Matt: No, remove him please.
[3:23:24 PM] MattKan: I can't
[3:23:39 PM] Matt: If you add, you can remove on skype. I've done it before.
[3:25:57 PM] MattKan: Nah I can't
[3:26:02 PM] MattKan: What happened though, I thought you hired him
[3:26:05 PM] Matt: nvm jester did.
[3:26:08 PM] Matt: Ok.
[3:26:13 PM] Matt: Let me explain what happened..
[3:27:12 PM] Matt: So you were talking GREAT about him, so i took your work assuming he applied and was ready to work and prove people wrong. I announced his name and he responded with, "How did i get hired if i didn't apply?"
[3:27:30 PM] Matt: He used to work on Stroseria and i should've realized the favoritism going on.
[3:27:31 PM] MattKan: he did apply o_O
[3:27:41 PM] MattKan: i think he thinks you're me
[3:27:45 PM] Matt: I did not see his app in e-mail at ALL.
[3:27:46 PM] MattKan: or i'm you
[3:27:50 PM] MattKan: he sent me an application
[3:27:58 PM | Removed 3:40:12 PM] MattKan: This message has been removed.
[3:28:30 PM] Matt: That's not the correct way at all to send the application. In the application i put directions "Copy and paste this app" and fill it out, and email it. Not send to your buddy that's staff.
[3:28:40 PM] Matt: I'll be choosing another PR later tonight to replace him.
[3:29:05 PM] Matt: The team looked pretty pathetic because of this whole favoritism thing.
[3:29:22 PM] MattKan: It also looked pretty pathetic because you revoked at least 2 of the 3 hirings
[3:29:44 PM] Matt: I'm pretty sure James made you a regular GP also due to the situation.
[3:30:01 PM] Matt: The other 2 were hired, just not your chose due to the circumstances.
[3:30:26 PM] Matt: BUT
[3:30:37 PM] MattKan: I don't really understand how i'm at fault here. I was asked to recommend somebody and I recommended them thinking they had applied
[3:31:32 PM] Matt: There's no room for mistakes here, and you having an applicant apply a TOTALLY different way backfired.
[3:31:51 PM] Matt: I'm not really complaining, it's not that big of deal, just can't let something like that happen again.
[3:31:54 PM] MattKan: I never asked him to apply like that though
[3:32:11 PM] MattKan: I don't understand why you didn't even check to see his application before you hired him
[3:32:15 PM] MattKan: That's definitely not my fault
[3:32:24 PM] Matt: Well when you were asst admin you should've directed him and showed him the CORRECT way to apply.
[3:32:45 PM] Matt: An asst. is supposed to be 100% trustworthy, through his/her work and words
[3:32:45 PM] MattKan: He sent that last night while I was sleeping though after you had announced the hirings
[3:33:16 PM] Matt: [Saturday, December 22, 2012 4:50 PM] MattKan:

<<< He's definitely my top, I don't know of anybody else applying who I could recommend
[3:33:33 PM] MattKan: I was under the impression that he had already applied
[3:33:40 PM] MattKan: When I said that
[3:33:48 PM] Matt: Anyway i don't care to chat about it, i'm going to try and finish these docs.
[3:33:57 PM] Matt: Well get over this xd
[3:34:09 PM] MattKan: Also I don't appreciate you calling me out on "favoritism" to him
[3:34:24 PM] MattKan: Not only is that rude to him but it makes me look bad
[3:35:09 PM] MattKan: I think next time you should think things through before hiring people because this whole hiring thing is a complete flop... that I can't be blamed for
[3:35:16 PM] Matt: That's how it appeared, you should really take care with your actions and words next time. Misunderstanding.
[3:35:59 PM] MattKan: I don't even have access to the email though...
[3:38:04 PM] MattKan: Perhaps instead of me "taking care with my words" you should own up and check the applications next time before hiring people
[3:38:09 PM] MattKan: instead of trying to blame me
[3:39:43 PM] Matt: You've proven to be a worthless asst, you should take my advise. I'm not new, been doing this crap since 01. Take care with your words next time, oh and if you do ever become asst. of something again, keep in mind that's a LEADERSHIP role and your WORD is trusted by many.
[3:39:47 PM] Matt: PM me if needed.
[3:39:51 PM] Matt: cya
Matt

Kiko 12-25-2012 06:22 AM

Wow.

Pimpsy G. 12-25-2012 06:23 AM

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instanc...x/23650456.jpg

PoeticFolly 12-25-2012 06:24 AM

I didn't intend for this thread to start drama. If any of you who are about to post and start drama: don't. I made this thread to tell the truth.

Kiko 12-25-2012 06:28 AM

I really feel sorry for you Poetic. 2nd time you got caught in something sticky.

Era News 12-25-2012 06:28 AM

This gun b guud

PoeticFolly 12-25-2012 06:31 AM

Also, I have nothing against mattkan. At all. He's still my close friend.

Era News 12-25-2012 06:32 AM

This shows a whole different side of the staff team :o

PoeticFolly 12-25-2012 06:35 AM

Quote:

Posted by Era News (Post 265711)
This shows a whole different side of the staff team :o

The whole entire staff team isn't like this. At all. I know the majority of iZone staff on a personal basis. they're all great people. Then there's Matt...

Motrox 12-25-2012 06:36 AM

Why would he do that?

Era News 12-25-2012 06:37 AM

Quote:

Posted by PoeticFolly (Post 265714)

The whole entire staff team isn't like this. At all. I know the majority of iZone staff on a personal basis. they're all great people. Then there's Matt...

Yes I know but I ment they have secrets going around, I myself love mattkan

Slinger 12-25-2012 06:42 AM

That's just sad :/

PoeticFolly 12-25-2012 06:46 AM

If mattkan was told to recommend someone, wouldn't he recommend someone he knows is a good worker, and not some random kid who wants staff boots? Yes. He would. The other thing is, if Matt has "been doing this carp since 01" shouldn't he know to look into my application and take a look at how I am, and NOT have to be babyfed every single little thing? It's sad how stupid some people can be.

Era News 12-25-2012 06:52 AM

Quote:

Posted by PoeticFolly (Post 265724)
If mattkan was told to recommend someone, wouldn't he recommend someone he knows is a good worker, and not some random kid who wants staff boots? Yes. He would. The other thing is, if Matt has "been doing this carp since 01" shouldn't he know to look into my application and take a look at how I am, and NOT have to be babyfed every single little thing? It's sad how stupid some people can be.

Even though I don't like what you've done in the past, I think you deserve a second chance.

Yeah that means I take back what I said.

I give you my deepest apologies

PoeticFolly 12-25-2012 06:55 AM

Quote:

Posted by Era News (Post 265725)
Even though I don't like what you've done in the past, I think you deserve a second chance.

Yeah that means I take back what I said.

I give you my deepest apologies

I forgive you, pal.

Era News 12-25-2012 06:56 AM

Quote:

Posted by PoeticFolly (Post 265726)

I forgive you, pal.

Should we kiss or is that taking it to far?

Trylios 12-25-2012 07:26 AM

Its not allowed to leak anything from the Skype chat.

Kiwi 12-25-2012 07:27 AM

Quote:

Posted by Trylios (Post 265735)
Its not allowed to leak anything from the Skype chat.

this is actually from a private chat between Matt and Mattkan I think, so not our private one.

PoeticFolly 12-25-2012 07:34 AM

Quote:

Posted by Kiwi (Post 265736)
this is actually from a private chat between Matt and Mattkan I think, so not our private one.

What kiwi said.
I'm not breaking any rules at all.

Ventus277 12-25-2012 07:39 AM

I only see Matt blaming someone else for his mistake.

HE was in charge of hiring

and it was HIS responsibility.

Failure to take responsibility for such actions shows he isn't suited for the job.

Kiwi 12-25-2012 07:41 AM

Quote:

Posted by PoeticFolly (Post 265739)
What kiwi said.
I'm not breaking any rules at all.

you could say, however, that you should have had both matt and matt's permission because the chat was privately between both of them

LordBryson 12-25-2012 07:56 AM

Wow what a terrible situation sorry to hear that

PoeticFolly 12-25-2012 07:58 AM

Quote:

Posted by Ventus277 (Post 265740)
I only see Matt blaming someone else for his mistake.

HE was in charge of hiring

and it was HIS responsibility.

Failure to take responsibility for such actions shows he isn't suited for the job.

Exactly.
Quote:

Posted by Kiwi (Post 265741)
you could say, however, that you should have had both matt and matt's permission because the chat was privately between both of them

I don't think mattkan work care as he has quit the position. I could care less what Matt thinks about me putting it up.
Quote:

Posted by LordBryson (Post 265743)
Wow what a terrible situation sorry to hear that

Eh. Stuff happens.

Thunderstorm 12-25-2012 08:07 AM

I really don't think there needs to be a thread here. What is it achieving besides cyber harassment toward Matt and everyone else involved. Poetic, if people are wanting to know what happened, PM them!

The sooner people move on from this the better srsly.

PoeticFolly 12-25-2012 08:12 AM

Quote:

Posted by Thunderstorm (Post 265748)
I really don't think there needs to be a thread here. What is it achieving besides cyber harassment toward Matt and everyone else involved. Poetic, if people are wanting to know what happened, PM them!

The sooner people move on from this the better srsly.

I would be getting a lot of PM's on asking what happened. I've already had a ton of people ask me what happened and I couldn't pm them all at the same time. This thread wasn't meant to cyber harass anyone. At all. I didn't come on here with the intention of "i didn't get hired. let's go mess with this guys zone career hurrdydurrydurr" I meant for this to be a thread on what really happened. I was getting fed up with people repeating what happened last time saying "ha poetic got fired noob admin" So I made this thread to show what really happened. I'm entitled to my freedom of speech and to voice what happened. Your damn right that's what I'm going to do.
PS. I love you

Also, don't forget to have a safe and happy Christmas this year, everyone! I hope that Santa brings you everything that you could have possibly wanted. Even a pony.

Kiwi 12-25-2012 08:18 AM

Well, I don't think there's anything wrong with this thread, providing it doesn't turn into a complete bitchfest* and no one decides it's an excuse to go out of their way to harass someone. He's just sharing information, I guess. The only problem I see with it is that it was a private chat.

Oh, and considering our community it most likely will. I agree with the post beneath, and this thread should probably just be kept but closed.

* aha! Poetic helped me remember the right word. Flamewar!

Thunderstorm 12-25-2012 08:21 AM

Quote:

Posted by PoeticFolly (Post 265749)
I would be getting a lot of PM's on asking what happened. I've already had a ton of people ask me what happened and I couldn't pm them all at the same time. This thread wasn't meant to cyber harass anyone. At all. I didn't come on here with the intention of "i didn't get hired. let's go mess with this guys zone career hurrdydurrydurr" I meant for this to be a thread on what really happened. I was getting fed up with people repeating what happened last time saying "ha poetic got fired noob admin" So I made this thread to show what really happened. I'm entitled to my freedom of speech and to voice what happened. Your damn right that's what I'm going to do.
PS. I love you

Also, don't forget to have a safe and happy Christmas this year! I hope that Santa brings you everything that you could have possibly wanted. Even a pony.

I love you too. We'll need to chat soon!

I can understand your frustration at the immature community and their taunting. But I wish the thread could've been closed after the first post. Keyboard warriors are about to go into battle and start making assumptions of god knows what from one mistake. And tbh everyone involved wa at fault in one way or another. Plz Higbey sit this one out.

Merry Christmas <3 It's a shame what happened but again, the sooner this settles the better.

PoeticFolly 12-25-2012 08:22 AM

Quote:

Posted by Kiwi (Post 265750)
Well, I don't think there's anything wrong with this thread, providing it doesn't turn into a complete bitchfest and no one decides it's an excuse to go out of their way to harass someone. He's just sharing information, I guess. The only problem I see with it is that it was a private chat.

Second page and it's not already a giant "bitchfest". I'm impressed.

Kiwi 12-25-2012 08:24 AM

Quote:

Posted by PoeticFolly (Post 265752)
Second page and it's not already a giant "bitchfest". I'm impressed.

It's a christmas miracle!

PoeticFolly 12-25-2012 08:24 AM

Quote:

Posted by Thunderstorm (Post 265751)
I love you too. We'll need to chat soon!

I can understand your frustration at the immature community and their taunting. But I wish the thread could've been closed after the first post. Keyboard warriors are about to go into battle and start making assumptions of god knows what from one mistake. And tbh everyone involved was at fault in one way or another. Plz Higbey sit this one out.

Merry Christmas <3 It's a shame what happened but again, the sooner this settles the better.

Again, the thread was made to inform people. Not to start a flame war, or as kiwi calls it: a bitchfest. Some people were at fault more than others, I would say...
Skype me, I got some pics to show you.

Kiwi 12-25-2012 08:25 AM

Quote:

Posted by PoeticFolly (Post 265755)
Again, the thread was made to inform people. Not to start a flame war, or as kiwi calls it: a bitchfest. Some people were at fault more than others, I would say...
Skype me, I got some pics to show you.

Flame war, that's the word I was looking for! I just forgot and went with bitchfest.

Thunderstorm 12-25-2012 08:29 AM

Quote:

Posted by PoeticFolly (Post 265755)
Again, the thread was made to inform people. Not to start a flame war, or as kiwi calls it: a bitchfest. Some people were at fault more than others, I would say...
Skype me, I got some pics to show you.

Can't Skype. At a relatives enjoying Chistmas Dinner :)
Phones about to die. We'll talk soon. Take care <3

Quote:

Posted by Kiwi (Post 265756)
bitchfest.

Did you just say....a rude word? KIWI! *calls jester for deciplinary purposes*

Jester Lapse 12-25-2012 08:31 AM

BRING IN THE BOILING WATER!

PoeticFolly 12-25-2012 08:33 AM

Please don't derail this thread. Thanks :)

Jester Lapse 12-25-2012 08:34 AM

There is really no where for this thread to go besides harassment. Are we supposed to discus something?

PoeticFolly 12-25-2012 08:35 AM

Quote:

Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 265764)
There is really no where for this thread to go besides harassment. Are we supposed to discus something?

It's a Q&A thread, plus I was wanting to get it out of the way and show everyone what really happened.

Kiwi 12-25-2012 08:38 AM

Quote:

Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 265760)
BRING IN THE BOILING WATER!

SORRY GRAMPS D':
Quote:

Posted by PoeticFolly (Post 265763)
Please don't derail this thread. Thanks :)

sorry, will do my best. I will just go jump into the boiling water and hope I am forgiven D':

Ash Ketchum 12-25-2012 08:39 AM

Fight heavens! Matt vs Matt- winner Matt!

Poetic vs Matt Winner- Undecided

Sir 12-25-2012 08:59 AM

I don't think this is harrassment at all. He posted word-for-word what was said. Poetic wasn being Biased and choosing a side. He simply posted what was said, and people may interpret this in anyway they wish. Like poetry!:0

MementoJoker 12-25-2012 09:22 AM

Quote:

Posted by Kiwi (Post 265750)
Well, I don't think there's anything wrong with this thread, providing it doesn't turn into a complete bitchfest* and no one decides it's an excuse to go out of their way to harass someone. He's just sharing information, I guess. The only problem I see with it is that it was a private chat.

Oh, and considering our community it most likely will. I agree with the post beneath, and this thread should probably just be kept but closed.

* aha! Poetic helped me remember the right word. Flamewar!

I thought Kiwi doesn't swear? BAD KIWI!

Kiwi 12-25-2012 09:41 AM

Quote:

Posted by Dimentio (Post 265786)
I thought Kiwi doesn't swear? BAD KIWI!

shush I've already been dipped in boiling water, I won't do it again :'(

PoeticFolly 12-25-2012 09:43 AM

Let's not take this thread offtopic please.

VendettaDaOne 12-25-2012 09:51 AM

Lame. This *Matt guy says he's been doing that since 2001 but it seems like he started few months ago. He's so not ready and not tidy. He completely made iZone look ridiculous although the rest of the staff is great.

And btw, how did you get this chat? Did Mattkan give it to you? If he did that's sad. An ex iera staff and who wanted to be manager of a server that gives informations away... If i'm wrong sorry.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 12-25-2012 10:03 AM

Na it was public zone skype chat

PoeticFolly 12-25-2012 10:06 AM

It was private.

G Fatal 12-25-2012 10:07 AM

The bit we should really get at is why they selectively picked anyway!? seens as though they publicly put in news about applications makes me think if they even actually read any of them.:rolleyes:

Craig 12-25-2012 10:43 AM

I wonder how the most stupid people get the awesomes jobs from time to time.. x.x

But somehow I think Matt was doing this from 2001 till now not alone, as in a lot of help lol.

Angel 12-25-2012 11:43 AM

Quote:

Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 265767)
Fight heavens! Matt vs Matt- winner = Matt

Which one O:?!

Anyways, have a nice MOOEY CHRISTMAS!:love:

Nezo 12-25-2012 11:48 AM

Quote:

Posted by Prynce (Post 265815)
I wonder how the most stupid people get the awesomes jobs from time to time.. x.x

But somehow I think Matt was doing this from 2001 till now not alone, as in a lot of help lol.

Because in this world nothing is fair, Graal is f***ed up sometimes. Like this world 'Earth'

ESD_Hyaku 12-25-2012 12:33 PM

I really don't think you deserved that, poetic.
You seem like a great person .-.
Merry Christmas. :(


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