Sad Fate for New Developers
 

It's such a shame. That only a handful of oldbie developers with such good skill remain quiet and humble.

And new developers these days, truly boastful in their abilities to the point of not being able to take criticism. Even with criticism or advice given, there is hardly any indication of it trying to be implemented. Not trying to downplay these new guys but there needs to be a change in perspective and a realization that one must always believe in the need for improvement and not be so complacent in making progress. Just because you work for a server (and BARELY contribute to it but act like you do), and your wearing the title of that server's name under your belt, acting like you hold some kind of administrative position, being praised by everyone else, always giving a comeback to critiques......

Just because you have a weapon at home, play Call of Duty and kill bad guys, does not make you a trained killer.

Just because you make levels, or make graphics doesn't make you an "artist".

"Oh but Rookie, u a nub cuz art is a form of self expression" says, Whiny Scrawny Bee-ATCH.

"No, BICH, dare say to a UFC fighter that scraps at school make you a fighter. Art means more than your pile of turd you manage to procure from your a-ss in which you have loosely labeled as 'effort'. Put effort into becoming better or at least produce something you can be proud of. Even as sucky as you are, then and only then you can claim yourself as an artist." says, Fkkn Epic Rookie.

That is all. Who wants to disagree and get their fkkn pathetic a-ss handed to them?

have to spread reputation :(

Hahahahaha!!!!

I love this guy,

Are you.... talking to me? :c

No....

Just ask yourself how much of this applies to you.

Like, Do I actually contribute good work to server (or even just to myself if I'm not with a server)? Do I claim to have superiority and excellence in my development field? Am I trying get better and take consideration of advice for self-improvement?

If you answered Yes, No, and Yes...then you are safe my friend from being a "Poser"

This is so awesome

Haha YES

wat

*makes some pixel art*

I'm like de Vinci!

I guess you are referring to iDevice development? Which I do not know much about, but.. surely not everyone is like the stereotype you described, right? There's always the bunch of developers who just don't (want to) get criticism. They're bound to fail, so don't worry. But there's also usually the bunch that improves, some faster than others. And you are an artist if you create graphics, and a designer if you create levels. It doesn't have to be an occupation, but in the case of developing stuff for Graal, it's usually a hobby, and that should be enough.

*da. Da means from, as he was from the town of Vinci. De would mean his father is a town.
How do I even know that?!

Anyway, have to spread rep. :( But is it referring to me...? I don't think so. I hope not.

As he said

Level design isn't all that different from pixel art. You're placing tiles on a grid in attractive ways to create and overall appealing picture.

Okay

I'm a developer, but I actually do agree with this. Some people who work on servers though, such as I, put 100% effort into their work and they work a lot.

I disagree. :o

It's about who you surround yourself with, or who surrounds you, so it's subjective. :o
I see more people looking to learn and willing to take rather harsh criticism to do so than people who think they're already well versed.

Better employers! Oo I mean, i have no opinion.

Pixels!

Truth is, theres alot of quality developers that still play graal, its just they dont want to work for a new and/unattractive server.

Funny how this still applies.... Not what the people in the replies said, but what rookie said in his opening.

I think it's kinda neat how small the remaining Dev community is, such that you see the same few devs working on multiple servers.

For the most part, they are very friendly and helpful and like to help each other out. (Of course there are always those outliers that break this norm).

Of course, this is just from the perspective of a PC Graal Player, not an iPlayer.
(Why play on an inferior device?)

The thing that's truly interesting is how staff treat eachother. Most players feel negative towards staff, do to things out of that staffs control, like someone stealing their head etc. Most of us are really just normal people with a common hobby that brought us together. Those who don't wish to improve, simply won't. I wouldn't label modern developers as less open minded than older ones, there are just the few who are arrogant and believe they are the best. The team I work on is full of artists more talented than I am, and I am always trying to improve.
It's not really fair to throw stones at developers in general, but rather you should be remembering we are the same as you.

That being said I agree there are some arrogant jerk developers *·*

For Reals, Im a Developer, I help developing a server, I don't have rights or staff power, I don't complain, I don't abuse, I don't care :)

But you're still annoying.

True ... But who cares! I ain't hurtin nobodeh

What gives you the right to come on these forums and make fun of people? I don't see you doing ANYTHING for Graal other than spewing all your bull**** on a community forum.

Keep practicing your development! You may just surprise everyone in the future! Good luck! :)

P.S. I love your school level and salami lol

Only if I die in a car crash!

Kidding. I believe Era News is a Lore Master on Delteria, not believing you may call it a staff position but those Delterians do.

God only knows how good his lore truly is. It just pisses me off how he thinks he can just come and make fun of the guy.

I mean calling 'LoreMasters' or Storyline-Writers 'staff' is a joke in my opinion. No matter how good (how bad) he is, all I know is they've hired people who are having potential to improve at writing(?) instead of someone who's made for the LoreMaster and being perfect. Don't ask me why, it seems ridiculous to me aswell.

Loremasters ARE staff in my eyes. They work hard to pump out some decent plots for quests and such. Anyways what I highlighted in bold is ridiculous.

Potential<Skill

WHO THE F ARE YOU AND WHAT DID YOU DO WITH iHOT?

It's only a joke if the quality of the team is a joke. There's nothing wrong with a good storyline writer or "lore master" as the pretentious say, but . . .

No matter how ignorant, how stupid, how idioti and moronic or how homosexual ("gay") this may be for you, they aren't staff in my eyes at all. However what you highlighted in bold which is ridiculous is what.. I said.

Ehhh.... I think, even though he is a good writer, amazing pixel artist etc etc etc
But the thing is, you can never be a staff with a harsh and dark attitude..

mhm:p

Yea staff for some reason cant take any jokes.

PumaD, I can assure you that games such as Elder Scrolls have actual 'LoreMasters' or its equivalent. I doubt you personally have the ability to develop an engaging storyline with multiple intersecting viewpoints in a not-so-monotonous chronological order. But I don't blame that kind of narrow-minded thinking since it dewlls on iZone. A server that has no RPG-elements to it. but I wouldn't go so far as calling your server's lack thereof; a "joke". :)

I agree with you on this even though your obvious disdain for the Manager of Delteria, MD, shows on almost every single post you make on Graalians.

Nope, you don't get my point at all. And you can't really compare Graal with any other successful game.., do you?
As said, I know it sounds harsh but why have LoreMasters when other staff such as GP/GM/PR whatever, GFX,etc. can do that aswell? (Developers such as GFX, NAT etc doing this sounds a bit weird, I know.) I mean, there are some servers who don't hire GANI's because their GFX people can do them aswell and have to do them actually. I'm not saying they are trash at all, but I don't acknowledge them as staff on Graal. :)

I don't think it's fair to compare Delteria to an Elder Scrolls game in this instance. Skyrim sold over 20 million copies so I think they can justify hiring as well as paying people to solely write story for them. Having someone work for you to write up your quest stories on a Graal server is a bit of a joke. While I'm sure this community has some creative writers, I don't think many have the ability to write an engaging storyline with multiple intersecting viewpoints in a not-so-monotonous chronological order.

Uh... comparison is a comparison. If two things were exactly on the same level, then the word "comparison" would be greatly limited in its use. So first, both of you need to understand the definition of that and then realize that your attempt to clarify my statement was not needed as it is already used in its correct context.

The Spanish Soccer Team "Barcelona" in its professional international league along with its millions of supporters still require the same fundamental positions (such as Forward, Center, etc.) as that of a normal high school soccer team. So yes, Elder Scrolls' "Loremaster" position CAN be compared to Delteria's Loremaster position due to the fact that it's necessary in its function.

But I assume you're only saying this because you feel Delteria is too small/simple of a game to require such a position. Great opinion, but the fact is that everyone felt the task was not as "simple" as it appeared. Thus the birth of a very essential position, free from other responsibilities, was required.

Anything else guys, or shall we say again that my comparison was incorrect?

:rolleyes:

uhm k.

Anyone? Popcorn? I don't mind sharing!

Why do you talk about soccer now? Oh, man, Rookie..

Are you saying I'm good at pixel art? :blush:

Are you saying you didn't already know?

Levels are basically easy pixel art. Rather than having millions of colors/shades to work with you have like 100 or so, and they are all predesigned.

No offense to LATs out there, it's still difficult.

Personally I think scripting is the most complicated form of development.

Similar to, not a form of pixel art. I guess they share quite a bit concept-wise but they're really not the same.

Yeah I agree completely. I was simply stating the similarly between the two developmental arts. Obviously, if they were the same, then there wouldn't be LATs, there would just be gfx.

Simple, he became corrupted by being erago mod and a PR. I told you being a era admin is cancerous

Down Noobkie, breath and count to 10.
Hes saying you have a feminine touch when it comes to decorating. Maybe you should try the field of interior designer.