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Ghettoicedtea 11-29-2012 04:13 PM

Should basing pay be increased?
 
Before you vote read

Yes: Pay will not start until a gang has held a base for more than 5 minutes.
Pay will be 100$ per base too start and every shop is a extra 50$ every 5 minutes
In 1 hour a gang will make at least 1200$ from that base

And leader can select allies recive money from their base
No: keep base money the way it is.

My opinion yes. Im pissed that us basers get next to nothing from basing. Iera basing is much harder than classic because classic is all numbers. Era is numbers and talents.
Admins expect us to pay for upgrades, unlimited revive and ammo, upgrade, buy food, and get items. This would make basing much more active since people actualy would want money from it, people

Alexei 11-29-2012 04:14 PM

Yes.

L0N3 P4ND4 11-29-2012 04:42 PM

no....

Ghettoicedtea 11-29-2012 04:48 PM

Quote:

Posted by L0N3 P4ND4 (Post 243510)
no....

Why no?

L0N3 P4ND4 11-29-2012 05:09 PM

allies shouldnt receive money because they are allies
some bases have bigger areas = more stores it makes it unfair for like pz
players would receive too much money and kane wouldnt like this at all

MythZ 11-29-2012 05:10 PM

Yes, i could not agree more this would help people base because they can actually buy unlimmited ammo and revive plus repair weapons and not have to worry about it because the baseing money will absorb the loss of money. I don't see why you would say no unless you play classic and don't give a rats ass.

L0N3 P4ND4 11-29-2012 05:10 PM

i play iera

MythZ 11-29-2012 05:11 PM

Quote:

Posted by L0N3 P4ND4 (Post 243524)
allies shouldnt receive money because they are allies
some bases have bigger areas = more stores it makes it unfair for like pz
players would receive too much money and kane wouldnt like this at all

Lol thats the point it brings bigger competition to bigger bases. Sorry I lol'd when you said "Kane won't like this" because you know what he likes right?

L0N3 P4ND4 11-29-2012 05:12 PM

yes actually all players no what kane likes

Geeze 11-29-2012 05:36 PM

Although I do think the pay for basing is ****... I don't think it should increase. Or at least not as much as u stated. Just my opinion...

lord greg 11-29-2012 05:37 PM

Quote:

Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 243495)
Before you vote read

Yes: Pay will not start until a gang has held a base for more than 5 minutes.
Pay will be 100$ per base too start and every shop is a extra 50$ every 5 minutes
In 1 hour a gang will make at least 1200$ from that base

And leader can select allies recive money from their base
No: keep base money the way it is.

My opinion yes. Im pissed that us basers get next to nothing from basing. Iera basing is much harder than classic because classic is all numbers. Era is numbers and talents.
Admins expect us to pay for upgrades, unlimited revive and ammo, upgrade, buy food, and get items. This would make basing much more active since people actualy would want money from it, people

IMO 1200 is way to much from an hour of basing. Everyone complains about the amount of bars and pbps in basing and this would just encourage it.

Geeze 11-29-2012 05:37 PM

Good poll by the way!

L0N3 P4ND4 11-29-2012 05:43 PM

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Posted by Geeze (Post 243533)
Good poll by the way!

how so?

BootySlayer 11-29-2012 05:52 PM

I agree that basing doesn't pay. I think it's because there aren't enough shops attached to the more difficult bases. Era is lacking in the shops department. Adding more bodies and furniture and such would help boost base pay. But we all know the powers that be don't want us too rich. That would mean they sell less gralat packs. Gangs base for the rewards and the rank, for kills and bragging rights. The money is a side bonus as it should be. Just my opinion.

L0N3 P4ND4 11-29-2012 05:54 PM

yes i agree with bootyslayer (she beat me to saying this totally forgot)

Shock 11-29-2012 06:19 PM

I'm not voting at all and I'll tell you why.

I'm all for it, but your specifications are ridiculous. No one will listen to you if you suggest making basing more profitable than anythin else on era. If anything, all the large gangs will benefit the most. How the payments work now is fine.

I agree with allies getting maybe 1/2 what you get, but everything else is overdone.

Keep things the same, add a 500 g payment every 1/2 hour. Allies recieve 50% of what you get. Payments will not multiply with multiple bases. Just holding a base should give you money, plus the bases shops.

Easy.

Ghettoicedtea 11-29-2012 06:31 PM

Quote:

Posted by L0N3 P4ND4 (Post 243524)
allies shouldnt receive money because they are allies
some bases have bigger areas = more stores it makes it unfair for like pz
players would receive too much money and kane wouldnt like this at all

Thats BS. You can make way more than 1200 by shelling for 1hour straight. If one gang conquers all the bases the most that can be made from the 100$ base pay every five minutes is 9,600$. Perfectly reasonable. Shelling still would be the fastest way to make cash.

90% of people wont join a extension or allie extension of a gang because they get no pay. Also thats why theres a selected allies not all allies.

L0N3 P4ND4 11-29-2012 06:37 PM

okay take sk for an example or ebizou doesnt matter. They both use the temp and perm thing. A leader gets on and oh my gang has been basing for 59 minutes all i have to do i base for 1 minut boom cash in one minute

Geeze 11-29-2012 06:52 PM

Quote:

Posted by L0N3 P4ND4 (Post 243537)
how so?

6:no
5:yes
Looks like a good poll to me.

MythZ 11-29-2012 06:53 PM

I think that is to many gralats as well, remember basing isn't a job, it is yout choice, but I do feel the gralats should be given every hour not just when someone buys something from a shop.

L0N3 P4ND4 11-29-2012 06:53 PM

11 people

Yogy* 11-29-2012 11:40 PM

Yea they should get more coz for now they base all day, and all they get is gang hat on 2k hours basing, and gang hide out later >_>

PeterGraal* 11-29-2012 11:46 PM

I'm pretty sure that the script gives you money based on if someone were to buy something from one of the shops in your area, that's what those shops are for. By doing this, staff would either have to raise prices in the shops and outrage citizens of Era or just make it based on the amount of time the gang has at that said base.

Ghettoicedtea 11-30-2012 12:41 AM

The problem with shops is this, shops are only popular for a day. After about a week it is forgotten. 1200 graalets an hour is perfectly reasonable but i can see where it could be over priced for gangs that get 2 bases. Big gangs will benefitthe most since no one on iera has balls to attack them except for other big gangs. Bottom line is make basing more active. Make people want to base. How do you make people want to war simpile give good money.

BootySlayer 11-30-2012 02:06 AM

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Posted by L0N3 P4ND4 (Post 243577)
okay take sk for an example or ebizou doesnt matter. They both use the temp and perm thing. A leader gets on and oh my gang has been basing for 59 minutes all i have to do i base for 1 minut boom cash in one minute

Doesn't even have to be the leader. Could be any gang member with an alarm set. I'd be willing to bet the ones who were basing for 59 minutes wouldn't be too happy with the gang members coming in for just that last minute to get paid.

bobo 11-30-2012 02:51 AM

I vote no. You are not expected to buy food, upgrades, or ammo. You purchase these things to have an edge on other players. Basing is already popular as is, but if you really want more money, I suggest taking bases in small numbers. 3 players splitting the profits of Mafia isn't that bad.

Rawry 11-30-2012 03:12 AM

Accidentally voted yes (wanted to vote no) I think that the basing pay should remain the same since I believe that basing is just for fun and the pay is a small reward. if you really wanted money then trash or dig. If the pay was raised to $1200 an hour then all the big name gangs who base 24/7 would earn over 30k a week. They are basically standing there and killing people, earning $20 a minute.

Ghettoicedtea 11-30-2012 02:26 PM

But those are boring. I would rather be fighting a war than digging and making reasonable cash

Wabbit 11-30-2012 02:43 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 244177)
But those are boring. I would rather be fighting a war than digging and making reasonable cash

Basing is not a job, if this were to get added, then they should atleast remove gang rewards like 2k hrs=6 people get a personal hat, etc.

lord greg 11-30-2012 04:47 PM

Quote:

Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 244177)
But those are boring. I would rather be fighting a war than digging and making reasonable cash

You complain no one attacks you so why don't you go to them?

eric 11-30-2012 04:49 PM

No.
Why?
Because I said so.
Why do you say so?
Because its a horrible idea.

L0N3 P4ND4 11-30-2012 07:15 PM

I love it where there are more people that said yes but they don't post a thing
While the people who are against this is putting up what they think
Which no wins cause yes has a stupid argument

Ghettoicedtea 11-30-2012 07:21 PM

hey im saying yes and i post up a arguement,

L0N3 P4ND4 11-30-2012 07:22 PM

Yes you are putting up an argument but a lousy one

Ghettoicedtea 11-30-2012 07:25 PM

thats because that really is all to say about it, its descrimination against us basers and we want better money :P

L0N3 P4ND4 11-30-2012 07:28 PM

you want more money cause you are in ifreeze. Ifreeze can control about 3 bases for an hour about. That means big cash for you. That means more cash noobs running around with bars

PeterGraal* 11-30-2012 07:59 PM

Trust me, things like this will ruin the entire server ._.

L0N3 P4ND4 11-30-2012 08:27 PM

Things that graal has done has ruined the server and this would make this even worse

Jester Lapse 11-30-2012 09:59 PM

I'm not going to bother reading.

-You're lucky you get any gralats for basing. You get gralats for defending too by pking and getting body parts
-Basing already has its prizes. Check Gang Reward System. That in itself should be all the motivation you need to base
-There are many many many ways to make money on era. It's really not that hard
-You never see classic players asking for base pay or any other rewards. All they get is a hat and they don't complain. Why should you?

iRiley 11-30-2012 10:39 PM

Quote:

Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 244436)
I'm not going to bother reading.

-You're lucky you get any gralats for basing. You get gralats for defending too by pking and getting body parts
-Basing already has its prizes. Check Gang Reward System. That in itself should be all the motivation you need to base
-There are many many many ways to make money on era. It's really not that hard
-You never see classic players asking for base pay or any other rewards. All they get is a hat and they don't complain. Why should you?

I agree with the tiger noob.

Ghettoicedtea 12-01-2012 02:50 AM

Quote:

Posted by L0N3 P4ND4 (Post 244345)
you want more money cause you are in ifreeze. Ifreeze can control about 3 bases for an hour about. That means big cash for you. That means more cash noobs running around with bars

actualy that is false i left iFreeze. Look the only reason why people don't attack big gangs is because they have no balls. They think they would be decimatated if they step foot into a base, honestly iFreeze has one HUGE problem, that problem is lack of numbers. Apparently they put up a rep of so pro that people don't even bother attacking when in reality theres only 3 defenders. Honestly they could be taken down quickly

Wolfy 12-01-2012 02:52 AM

base money is based on when enough players buy things around the shops the base owns and divides the cash evenly with all guild members online. i suggest you base with less people if you want more pay.

Ghettoicedtea 12-01-2012 02:53 AM

Quote:

Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 244436)
I'm not going to bother reading.

-You're lucky you get any gralats for basing. You get gralats for defending too by pking and getting body parts

because you can farm graalets in classic, thats most likely why they don't get money from towers. Guess what? body parts don't drop that much at all anymore because of PBP

fsh 12-01-2012 03:30 AM

quit bitching and move on God damnet.

BootySlayer 12-01-2012 06:08 AM

Quote:

Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 244344)
thats because that really is all to say about it, its descrimination against us basers and we want better money :P

.... Then don't base....

Jester Lapse 12-01-2012 06:11 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 244554)
because you can farm graalets in classic, thats most likely why they don't get money from towers. Guess what? body parts don't drop that much at all anymore because of PBP

...not sure if you are being an idiot on purpose. Compare classic jobs to era's 5+ jobs. I say take away body parts and base money altogether if you wanna cry more

L0N3 P4ND4 12-01-2012 03:56 PM

This is a idiotic debate where pretty much only one guy is complaining while a number of people is telling him its dumb

snk 12-01-2012 03:59 PM

no- you also get 'body parts' for pking.

Billy 12-01-2012 08:39 PM

Quote:

Posted by L0N3 P4ND4 (Post 244345)
you want more money cause you are in ifreeze. Ifreeze can control about 3 bases for an hour about. That means big cash for you. That means more cash noobs running around with bars

If noobs can get bar from his idea I'm pretty sure they aren't noobs. 1,200 per hour isn't that much..

Jester Lapse 12-01-2012 08:42 PM

It's sad comparing the era section to classics. They don't ask for this kind of stuff. They ask for actual server updates. I am now realizing its not era that's having trouble, but the community. You guys cry over the smallest things.


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