Epic Kolosals fort time reset, Please explain.
 

So because someone recruited a hacker, And they got 1 tower.
Whilst the leader wasn't even online, Their 340+ Hours got reset?
Please explain.

yes i'd like to hear some more information about this to.

K i was on when it happened, We noob recruited a hackker, he went around swamp hackkin gralats with our tag on, Since we never said stop and some idiot was accepting them our fort time was reset, we never "hacked" for a fort, anyone who knows EK knows we take towers 100% legitly.

Your fault for noob recruiting. If you people would only use your members to take em like your supposed to stuff like this wouldn't happen and tower taking would be more fair. Noob recruiting would probably be against the rules if it wasn't for the fact lots of staff member guilds noob recruit (they act like calling them temps makes it different)

^this

What more of an explanation do you want?
A hacker was doing some bs on your guild's tag and got caught.
Don't recruit random people whether they're "noobs" or not.

By this logic, Don't recruit anyone you don't know.

Higbey said it all.

Does it matter that it was a noob recruit?

Yes, why should you have members in your guild you may not trust or know very well? What kind of team member is that? This guild didn't think things through too well.

There's usually around 20-40 Members on the FB Server, And if a noob's near a tower you recruit them.

I honestly think their fort time shouldn't have been reset if it wasn't the leader who recruited. If they weren't on and weren't aware of the hacking and wasn't the one who recruited it's not really fair.

SHRUB was formed through noob recruiting, and we were one of the best guilds when it started (top 10). We now just hang out with the few members still playing and occasionally take a tower on fb.

Me and my friends sometimes take towers on FB server, and we don't noob recruit. We've never lost a tower while fighting for it, either. We always end up getting bored and giving the tower away.

Also the fact that it was a noob recruit means he wasnt a perm, a simple member who would be with us 2 hours top.

The moral of the story is that shouldn't recruit and support hackers in your guild kids.

Moral of the story is to be smart and not recruit people you don't know. Don't noon recruit. It's your fault. Your members were told to noob recruit so it doesn't matter that it wasn't a leader. Hopefully you learned to only use your members like your supposed to. No Helpers or Temps, those are basically the same. I don't usually protect XOR, but how do you know it was him? Matt and other staff could have done it.

You don't have trusted recruiters, how much to you trust your members?

Also. Who do you think oversees staff? The manager. Who over sees him? Stefan. Owner and creator of graal.so no. He wouldn't be disapointed. As for tower time and gralat hacking, it wouldnt have happened if you'd done what you people are suppossed to , take a tower with your guild members, no temps or noob recruiting and such

Because he was chillin on our flag,and I do believe a leader recieved a pm from him

Why does he wipe time tho? It was a GRALAT hack not a TOWER hack

It was still A HACK

I was about to help ya out but then on the reply page I scrolled down and saw your rude comments... Chill out. Calling any of us pathetic won't motivate us to give you your guild back. Like Higbey said you guys shouldn't have recruited that hacker.

Once again. If XOR never pmed you how do you know it was him? And why would he pm you? "I'm going to delete your guild. Is this okay? Please respond". You aren't giving new players a start. Your just abusing them by kicking them when they go offline and recruiting another to do your work.

Do you really think they would have disbanded your guild and just left the gralat hacker? Of course they banned him. You should only recruit people you trust, and tell your guild members to only recruit who they trust. It doesn't matter you werent the one that did it. Thats what you get for giving them powers and the instructions to noob recruit.

And if you think that deleting your guild is the most terrible thing he has done then you honestly dont know XOR.

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At Advent V, we quite rarely temp, and when we do, its for a good reason. (2+ towers, low member count, etc.)

Higby i will say this again, Xor was on our flag so of course it was him!!! And why should we have out tower time wiped for some noobish temp gralat hacking?
And sorry Queen but NYN is right u r being mean, If we want it fixed we should be nicer.
And stop saying we desevrve it for noob recruiting, It doesnt matter wheather it was a perm or temp it is still a gralat hack not tower but gralat. And if a guy walks in ur tower and asks for recruit of course u recruit him! Its in the middle of the night and extra help cant hurt.
Also yes a hack is a hack, but gralats have nothing to do with towers unless u r gonna buy a guilds tower from them but we had swamp so whatever. So wouldnt a reasonable punishment be banning the temp hacker, and not deleting the guild?

I suppose a more fitting punishment would be to make you pay for every gralat he hacked to get your guild back. At least you'll learn your lesson this way. No temps. No noob recruits, just play as intended, with a group of up to 25 people you know

Also yesthe hacker was banned. Did you think they would find out he was doing it, delete the guild, and leave the hacker?

This pretty much sums up the community. Everyone is so cold, get some sympathy.

Sympathy for a guild that made a mistake because they were doing something they shouldn't?

Sheesh have a little sympathy. They did lose over 430 hours from one little mistake. The leader wasn't on and couldn't control who recruited who. They're not the only ones who noob recruit there are a ton of guilds that have been doing that for ages and they recruit one hacker by accident and it's all over? I would be pretty p'd off. The hacker should have been punished not the guild. There are hackers out there who wear guild tags, but you don't see their guild getting disbanded now do you?

Oh for the love of god.... SHUT UP!!!
Your guild noob recruited with blindfolds on... Because i see none of your members actually realized who the hell they're hiring...

Its your own responsibility... You're the leader who hired these idiots who noob recruited hackers.... The leader is responsible for every one of his teammates...

Now shut up and take the punishment...
Its a game kid... Grow up already...

Rezon was right O.o. Some people in this community are cold.

Lol sympathy for a little iphone app? PLEASE...

Grow up, if you don't like how the game works don't play it.

Queen your doing the exact same thing. Because one staff member disbands your guild all the staff members are bad in your eyes and you think should be punished. One of your guild members was hacking and it reflected your guild so they thought you should be punished. Same mindset.

Who cares, maybe now you can go outside and see the sun.

true^^

Your fault for paying money for virtual money. Nyn actual responded to this thread like arround the day it was made. Stefan isn't happy when people steal virtual money( not like it actually costs them anything to produce gralat packs or anything you can buy with them) which is why he had XOR go arround banning them. You want to buy a game with real money then buy minecraft. Unlike graal it's worth it, way more fun, and not a rip off.

At least with your next guild you'll know to only give the recruit right to one trusted member other than yourself.

Most of us work for our money. Aren't you a little old to be typing like that and getting upset because a app game stole 5 bucks from you? Or were you one of those suckers that bought tons of gralat packs because you have no idea what a rip off they are?

Ugh... Why does every loser always try to talk trash about other people's lives to make themselves look better?

Look here Queen Know-It-All, Im 17 years old. I work 20 dollars per day having to help with furniture and with a monthly payment of 40-80 dollars for graphic/web design. If you're gonna talk about my life, get to know the facts and kindly STFU... Also read what you post you low-life trash... Don't go insulting on others because you lost hours on a game... Oh... Look whos acting like a kid now eh?

If you actually took the time to smash your head consecutively on a desk until your head bleeds and you finally found the page of "Common Logic", a leader is responsible for all his work... From recruits to co-operation... Don't try to get your money back just because one of your teammates had a blindfold on and recruited a hacker... Complain all you want but you're not getting your money back... You are to stay with the guild and live with it...

And listen Kid (Because im sure you act like one)... It doesn't matter of age. It matters who actually uses the brain correctly... You can cram all the knowledge you want but heres a small fact: You need to know what the hell you're cramming into your head.

You're 24 years old yet you act like a kid... Grow up already... You're starting to make yourself look bad here.

i thought you quit
twice

Lol you keep saying that... So ill private message to you what happened and such xD

k i can never find a thread where u reply lol

Thank u for proving my point once again. Its so funny to me that u want to argue over this. When u become leader of a guild and this happens to u remember to take ur own advice. And since u work in the real world u should know that when the boss is away the kids will play. Does he/she get fired? No the idiot doin wrong does. Same as it should be on here.

Actually, im not arguing. Im actually posting common logic. You're just trying to walk around it. And hello... Its a game... Theres a difference between the virtual world and reality... Let it go! Don't complain over a couple of dollars. Money revolves around the world my friend

Overall, you let a person hire a hacker that admins were still tracking and therefore managed to reset your hours because you hired the hacker. If i were you, i wouldn't complain. After all, the boss is responsible for every one of his employees. If the employees play around and screw up, he/she gets fired. And you have to pay for the damages that the employee caused, which leads back to losing your hours

And what point did i proved exactly? That you still act like a kid and can't stop arguing over 2-5 bucks on a video game? Grow up already... You're 24... I thought you're a mature person...

Teach your guild proper recruiting etiquette. If the guild made the mistake, the guild should be punished. If that person who recruited the hacker is singled out, that person should be punished further. He/she is still in the guild, so the guild is punished.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FG6f...&feature=feedu


oh yea.... forgot about dat video.

Wow...
And they're complaining on losing their hours? Hahaha!

Seriously, the kolosals are a mess up. I'm glad they lost their hours.

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my video shows the leader too, lawl

I saw. Basically the leader herself is a hacker.. And she complains about how its not fair a hacker caused the hours to reset... Lol

I was also surprised how they got second in Facebook GST.

I doubt a 24 year old that acts like this could function in society.

Listen honey. Your worker screwed up. You gave said worker the right to recruit, and allowed them to recruit noobs you didnt know. You paid the price for that mistake. And trust me. The staff are stubborn as mules and twice as powerless. Your not getting your money or your hours back. They refuse when over 100 players are upset. What makes you think they will change for 25? Go to the source. Try to get something to Stefan

Stfu we never ever ever hack. At least not our loyal members!

Thank u so much for sayin that!!!!

Omg ur dumb! have u never walked around graal and sliced someone and then have them take no damage? Ive had that happen so many times! And r u sure Queens the hacker and not a stupid little noob recruit?
And plz stop with all of ur "U deserved it for noob recruiting". How about this, I get CoM or Magic or some guild to "noob recruit" me, then i decide hey Ill just do a few gralat hacks. And get there time wiped? Now how fair does that seem eh?
Now I would appreciate all of u stupid little kids to shut up and get ur facts rite about us. Before u accuse us of hackin. Join our guild for a week and see how much we hack k. then say we r a hackin guild.

>Not our loyal members!
Thank you for proving our point you ******... Read before you post k?

No... Because that never happened to anyone... Even when they're lagging, 5 seconds after, move... Queen Kolossal stood there for more than 5 seconds and she barely got slashed. Rezon just showed us our point. Your queen and recruits happen to somewhat be hackers.

idk... Why dont you look at rezon's video?

No it's not fair because one of them is an admin based guild and one is a guild that didn't hack at all.. And they've earned their hours respectively.. Venus gospel had small shares of hacks but in overall, they respectively earned the 10k hours. Try doing that to CoM or Magic and you're gonna get ip banned more than how much hours higbey got banned for

>Stupid little kids
Ugh... Another one... Man, I thought these people were supposed to be mature..

We don't need to join your guild to prove you're not hackers. We saw you hack and rezon brought up the evidence very clear. Stfu and take the punishment... You don't want the punishment? Then gtfo and stop playing graal because you're going to get these type of punishments every once in a while. There's no clear descriptive rules. Just play and know the obvious on what not to do on a safe community-driven game ok?

You don't like it? Then just leave. No one will give a damn If you quit because you're gonna come back on graal trying to be sorry and all... Literally, stop protecting your guild. You and you're so called queen are starting to look like fools now on this game... Yea, let me repeat this again:

IT'S A GAME!!!