Future: Space city with 100% renewability
 

they should make a prototype technological city, to simulate the things a city/major space station would need in space /on the moon, or to ultimately recycle all matter to be sustainable.

a water purification system with algae and filters, to recycle and forever use the same hydrogen and oxygen molecules, by simulating the evaporation and precipitation using sunlight and mirrors to concentrate and constantly boil water into steam to be condensed back into water.

a hydroponics+oxygen generation system, using photosynthesis and a fan system and air ducts, to provide oxygen to the vessel, as well as food plants and medical herbs (not the ones you are thinking about!) using and recycling the nutrients and carbon, all waste in the sewage is cleansed with filters and bacteria, eventually yielding all waste a usable fertilizer, as well as all corpses being cremated, and the CO2 from it sent to the oxygen generation, and the ashes with nutrients used as fertilizer.

the exterior able to manage internal temperatures, while also being able to withstand time and small space debris and protect the sealed hull.

in order to melt down, recycle and make replacements for broken electronics it would need a giant recycling and forging factory center, able to fix and reuse the metals and elements and make new or repair objects. now, in space, the only way to get more matter and elements would to be to take on raw materials... aka ships or systems to secure and retrieve space debris and extract material from them.

intake and protection systems for the retrieval of debris, or space rock, and the ways for these buildings/units to link up and send and receive, as well as ways to send support oxygen or power to other units.

all of this would require energy, so solar energy systems would need to be implemented, as well as low energy using systems so that the amount of power brought in still can easily run everything.
for all of the things required it would require lots of advanced solar systems, and lots of spread out area to absorb maximum sunlight, unless some way to manipulate gravity to make constant energy was developed, in which case the gravity of the entire station could be enough to exploit in a way to generate electricity in its center of gravity.

finally, the fast internet and computer and radio and satellite receivers connected to the main CPU and computers to run, monitor, and link all systems together, as well as organize, record, and control the citizens.


this system could work for theoretically forever... well, until the sun goes...

unfortunatly this would require tons of cooperation and dedication, which will most likely not happen unless something or someone forces us.

http://i.imgur.com/j4hUZ.png

Nuffsaid.

its a project, not something i actually believe we will ever achieve.

Anymore brilliant tree hugger plans?

Don't tempt him!!!

You call it treehugger, I and most of the scientific community call it science and basic rules like matter not being able to be created nor destroyed.

Recycling is the only way a community in space could survive, you let any matter go, you use something that can't be easily recycled, you use a nonrenewable fuel...

You won't be able to survive. It's not like on earth. You are literally sealed in a airtight city with nothing around it.

We are already 25% above earths carrying capacity and the renewal rate of resources.


If all people lived like the average American for one year it would require the resources of 4 earths.

It's possible with our resources and technology to make this possible.. But the amount it would take, the economy, the amount of ravaging we would need to do to get the resources.. And the fact it could only support the population of new York...

I just realized my description eerily matches that of the ship in Dead space... ****

gjgj.

hey anyone remember that old Disney channel movie called Zenon Z3 or what was it? with the girl who was born in space n theres a colony in a spaceship n the girl always says "Stellar!"

Whoever actually reads Higbeys mountain of text when he posts stuff like this, #respect

Higbey , you trippin'.

demons + alcohol = not a good idea

Give the guy a break! He's sharing his thoughts, and you all shun him. When's the last time you posted something meaningful like this?

Probably one of the funniest reactions I have seen. Made me laugh so hard. +rep if I am able, so funny

this sounds cool

last time i checked, alcohol doesnt make you more intelligent, thoughtful, and inventive. alcohol is a poison, and i wont have any of it. i want to be in full control of myself.

you'll never have it completely renewable.

last time i checked, alcohol can make you funny and weird. in this case it seems like you are even more weird than all the other times (nothing new)

obviously, this is renewable as renewable as possible while still supporting human life. matter is never lost, although damage or accidents could end up causing matter to be sucked into the vacuum of space...

I have the theme song for this city.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=06GGD...%3D06GGDH_ugh8

When I single handedly do all of this ill remember to give it that themesong constantly playing. /Jk


This isn't a project that I believe could be completed within 80 years..

keep dreaming sir demon

Rofl. Hire mayu and her slaves will help :3

you will inevitably lose matter in one way or another. i think we have the capacity to make such an eco-system, it's just a question of whether it's really worth it or not.

i'd rather see the western world (no point in waiting for the ****pits of earth) advance rapidly, esp when it comes to infusing technology with everyday stuff. i know london is aiming to replace their street lamps with ones that can be controlled w/ tablets/phones (iPad atm) which will save them around 300-400k GBP a year. nifty crap like this is taking way too long to trickle down.

Well yes but london isn't in space, yes you will lose matter, but not in large ammounts, and with systems to bring in space debris you could gain new matter. As long as the hull remains sealed there is no way for matter to leave the system

Oh the wonders of stock images.

the problem is that you'll constantly need to create useful energy, which is the opposite of how nature works (breaking down from orderly and useful energy to chaotic and worthless energy). you can generate power etc with solar panels, sure, but will it account for everything?

matter will need to leave the system anyway, not everything is reusable. =[

the london point was a tiny example of a bigger and more important point, which is that we need to advance ourselves as a society first before we try to tackle a space city.

Pretty sure Obama cancelled our NASA program. :rolleyes:

You do realize he supports NASA right?

no... in fact theres rumors that now that he is relected he may announce more space missions, before he couldnt because if Romney was elected most likely funding for NASA would be cut.

What's wrong with the idea? I like it.

No, he didn't.

NASA is wayyyy too much wasted money and shouldnt be funded by the government in this economy. If youre so interested in outsr space, A.) start taking up donations, B.) leave it to a country whose government can afford this type of thing.

Compared to other countries USA can.

Anyway, it's science, not a waste of money.

But this isn't a political thread. Back on topic of the space station city and science.

just was able to use this as a creative writing essay for the DuPont challenge as an assignment for my Environmental science class, so yea, screw you naysayers.

How do you deal with overpopulation in the space city?

also looked at the dupoint challenge, higbey you must be between grades 7-12

There would be a population limit, only those with good genes would be able to reproduce , and it would be monitored to be sustainable.

I note a problem with monitoring. Some peeps don't like being watched, and that person who is doing the monitoring will play peeping Tom until they end up being Big Brother from the book (and film) 1984.

I don't think 100% renewability is possible.
Maybe 99.9% but complete renewability...I don't know.

Go die you moron, the money NASA gets is relatively nothing.

How do you define "good genes"?

I sense an intergalactic genocide approaching...

NASA is responsible for many modern day innovations and hold thousands of patents. Yet ignorant people like you just think it's a bunch of wasted money to send people to space.
Lowering funding would not even make the tiniest dent in our national debt.

LEL