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Maikeru 10-01-2011 12:20 PM

Im calling the 3rd GST tournament officially a lie [I have details to support it]
 
According to the latest GST tournament, im calling the winners of the GST tournament a lie... Downright fake... Yes, go ahead and hate on me but heres why (And correct me if im wrong)...

1. US was not allowed to play the latest GST tournament... and thats downright BS.... Why? Because it shows how big of weaklings everyone is to see how US has trained all their hard work... Don't steal their winstreak because they're good at it... Thats disrespectful... If you want others to win it... They need to show they can win it... Thats why tournaments are made... They're competitions... They show out the most skilled fighters...

2. US jr is a group of players in substitute for US... Which basically is downright BS... Again, it shows who is skilled the most... And not having the original hard working US guild is disgusting... Don't try to replace them with a jr guild... Even if they accepted it (or not)...

I want the admins to read and understand this situation... Breaking a US winstreak because they're good at guild sparring makes it unfair... And im calling that the 3rd GST tournament is not counted as a official GST tournament and therefore, US has still have their winstreak up and running unless of the following condition: that you re-make the GST tournament with all the teams that played...

US did not break their winstreak... Its the admins that tried to break it... US's winstreak is still up and running... Whoever won first did not win it because the admins felt like being kind and that having to show no skill is the best way to become number one... Remake the last GST tournament or claim that US's winstreak is not broken... Its disgusting how you try to break something like that... Unforgiving on all costs...

Again, please correct me if im wrong. Thanks
-Maikeru

callimuc 10-01-2011 12:35 PM

Everyone knows that US is best. I think they just made it cause people complained and lost interest on GST and just came for the items.

Blake 10-01-2011 01:50 PM

If you ask me theyve been playing graal for ALOT longer than us iclassic players. I think its fair that they didnt compete but they still got to compete in the fb tourney.

Furryamigo 10-01-2011 02:12 PM

We all know US is pro, but sometimes you need to let other people have a chance

Kentiman 10-01-2011 02:29 PM

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Posted by Furryamigo (Post 17602)
We all know US is pro, but sometimes you need to let other people have a chance

Exactly. Whats the use of playing GST for US to beat you every time?

callimuc 10-01-2011 02:42 PM

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Posted by Kentiman (Post 17608)
Exactly. Whats the use of playing GST for US to beat you every time?

US gets hats, we have a new achievement

Pazx 10-01-2011 03:32 PM

Who was in the US Jrs team?

I don't mind having US in the gst, they aren't invincible.

(also that gst was bs, but only coz admins dont do **** when people lag)

Higbey 10-01-2011 03:57 PM

Other people had a chance, they could have beaten us. Name one sport where they kicked out a entire major league team because they won too much. In roman times people liked having a champion gladiator, heck, half the time going up against the champion meant death either way, even If you beat him the crowd might become angry that you killed their favorite so they would release the lions.

If you want to win then you have to beat US. There is no glory in winning a battle where the best warriors were tied up.
US winstreak is not broken, staff need to announce as such.

Kentiman 10-01-2011 04:40 PM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 17645)
Other people had a chance, they could have beaten us. Name one sport where they kicked out a entire major league team because they won too much. In roman times people liked having a champion gladiator, heck, half the time going up against the champion meant death either way, even If you beat him the crowd might become angry that you killed their favorite so they would release the lions.

If you want to win then you have to beat US. There is no glory in winning a battle where the best warriors were tied up.
US winstreak is not broken, staff need to announce as such.

Whydoes EVERYONE compare this game to real life?

Swift 10-01-2011 04:43 PM

I don't understand this.
Is he saying that US didn't lose their winstreak, yet it was the exact same team as last month?

Cigam 10-01-2011 04:50 PM

Artist Vision my guild competed agensted GIMME TRANFER, we tied and admins put GIMME TRANSFER won, another reason sept GST was messed up

NiTe 10-01-2011 06:43 PM

Us jrs has the same iphone roster(but 1 player was replaced) as the gst from before. same team different tag

Skill 10-01-2011 06:43 PM

second gst was rigged too... Xor dqd SHRUB because the OTHER TEAM refused to go. We were all ready.

Tyler 10-01-2011 06:58 PM

Well the thing about US is they go for both VIP and normal server tourneys and that's not really fair to other players to have a chance. They ended up making a second guild anyways and winning VIP server, but lost on normal server. I know in real competitions you can't just ban a team because they're good. I'm ok with them competing as long as they don't have PC privlages. It gives everyone a fair challenge.

Rufus 10-01-2011 07:03 PM

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Posted by TylerMysTe (Post 17716)
Well the thing about US is they go for both VIP and normal server tourneys and that's not really fair to other players to have a chance. They ended up making a second guild anyways and winning VIP server, but lost on normal server. I know in real competitions you can't just ban a team because they're good. I'm ok with them competing as long as they don't have PC privleges. It gives everyone a fair challenge.

I don't disagree with you, but what is a PC privilege and how does only US have it?

Tyler 10-01-2011 07:09 PM

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Posted by Rufus (Post 17720)
I don't disagree with you, but what is a PC privilege and how does only US have it?

Sorry when I meant PC I mean any guild that uses it not just US. And it is a privilege because you have a much wider screen for guild spar so you are able to see where your teammates and opponents are much easier. Also, I'm not sure if this is 100% true, but I've heard PC has a little speed advantage. From what I've noticed battling some PC users in normal spar is my sword goes through them a couple seconds after I hit them before. Some people might not even have PC's available to use for Graal so in that case also makes it a privilege.

Kentiman 10-01-2011 07:55 PM

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Posted by TylerMysTe (Post 17722)
Sorry when I meant PC I mean any guild that uses it not just US. And it is a privilege because you have a much wider screen for guild spar so you are able to see where your teammates and opponents are much easier. Also, I'm not sure if this is 100% true, but I've heard PC has a little speed advantage. From what I've noticed battling some PC users in normal spar is my sword goes through them a couple seconds after I hit them before. Some people might not even have PC's available to use for Graal so in that case also makes it a privilege.

Agreed. I think PC is faster because there is less lag.

Prince Charming 10-01-2011 08:07 PM

I pwn US pvpers 1v1 on the field. They're not invincible.

Kentiman 10-01-2011 08:29 PM

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Posted by Prince Charming (Post 17771)
I pwn US pvpers 1v1 on the field. They're not invincible.

1v1...maybe..but team? No..

Pazx 10-02-2011 02:46 AM

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Posted by Cigam Graal (Post 17666)
Artist Vision my guild competed agensted GIMME TRANFER, we tied and admins put GIMME TRANSFER won, another reason sept GST was messed up

Actually we won lol. Don't worry, we lost to some lagger noob next match.

As long as the PC sparrers stick to the facebook tourney I'm happy. They can spar on iPhone all the want on the iPhone server.

Imprint 10-02-2011 04:00 AM

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Posted by TylerMysTe (Post 17722)
Sorry when I meant PC I mean any guild that uses it not just US. And it is a privilege because you have a much wider screen for guild spar so you are able to see where your teammates and opponents are much easier. Also, I'm not sure if this is 100% true, but I've heard PC has a little speed advantage. From what I've noticed battling some PC users in normal spar is my sword goes through them a couple seconds after I hit them before. Some people might not even have PC's available to use for Graal so in that case also makes it a privilege.

If a player is using an iPad won't they have a wider screen and less lag as well. Considering that then iPads should be banned too since I'm guessing more players own a PC then an iPad. It's more of a placebo effect, players convince themselves that if another player is on a PC that they have faster speed and advantages from the average iPhone user so they end up seeing those "advantages".

Higbey 10-02-2011 04:23 AM

Ever notice that whoever wins is a lagging noob or everytime a team gets disqualified its a biased staff member?

Twinny 10-02-2011 04:49 AM

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Posted by DrDoctor (Post 17930)
If a player is using an iPad won't they have a wider screen and less lag as well. Considering that then iPads should be banned too since I'm guessing more players own a PC then an iPad. It's more of a placebo effect, players convince themselves that if another player is on a PC that they have faster speed and advantages from the average iPhone user so they end up seeing those "advantages".

Which is interesting, especially considering the iOS versions run at a higher FPS!

Also, iPads can be disadvantaged to an iPod 4 since they have all that extra screen space with all the players and such to process. This is quite noticeable in a main area.

Skill 10-02-2011 05:10 AM

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Posted by Twinny (Post 17948)
Which is interesting, especially considering the iOS versions run at a higher FPS!

Also, iPads can be disadvantaged to an iPod 4 since they have all that extra screen space with all the players and such to process. This is quite noticeable in a main area.

Well the thing about the facebook version is it depends on the persons computer.

First off the game is built with flash so it already isn't nearly as efficient as native code.
second- Flash doesn't have multicore support(so my 2.0ghz dual core computer is only using half its cpu on Graal)
So it is really dependent on what your cpu speed is at and not how many cores.

meanwhile iPhone graal is much more efficient.

A 3.0ghz single core processor computer would most likely run the game better than 2.0 ghz dual core.

fp4 10-02-2011 06:30 AM

I wasn't going to prevent US from entering and Stefan has never really expressed interest in actually hosting the tournament so what he says and what actually happens is a different story regarding the GST.

There's really only one "Admin" who organizes the tournament and does the work so you can ***** about it every month and that's me so the whole point (US shouldn't be barred from entering despite winning nearly every time) is unnecessary because I already agree with it.

It's been a week since the GST anyway why are you just deciding to make a thread about it now?

LiA 10-02-2011 08:43 AM

I thought there was 4 GST tourneys so far?.....so wouldn't it be the 4th? And thanks for the hard work FP4! I'm really liking your updates.

Maikeru 10-02-2011 11:46 AM

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Posted by Furryamigo (Post 17602)
We all know US is pro, but sometimes you need to let other people have a chance

But breaking their winstreak upon an excuse because you want others to win is unfair... So y'know what... If you're admin for 2 months, im allowed to fire you and hire another admin for 1 month just because you're good at being an admin?

Don't try to compare them differently my friend... Its the same thing we're discussing here...

US's winstreak did not got broken and that is official... Idc what other conditions they had to put up with... Theres a difference between sharing and competition... A tournament is a place where various players compete to win...

You can't be friendly in a tournament... It takes skill... Having to take out the champion does not mean we have new winners.... They won 2nd place and US wins first place still because you tried to break them out of the competition... Idc what you say... US hasn't lost... Remake the tournament or stop banning US from tournaments ever again... Be fair and let the tournament decide the champions... And wipe out the update saying that "US's winstreak is broken"... Remove that one line and just keep the update info as is... Idc if they're masters or they're old and such... They train and they work and they keep their winstreak as is... Idc who makes the GST stuff but that was disgusting whoever banned US from the GST...

And to all those that said US juniors are the same as US but with one different leader... Let me inform you the obvious statement:

"One person makes a HUGE Difference"

So yea... Don't try to replace the leader and officially call them US... Im sure the leader could win the battle as is...

I expect to see US play next tournament please... And i also ask if you could remove that fake line where you said that US's winstreak is broken on the update info... If you're gonna be men, then stop crying and put your effort into it... Show that you can beat US...
-Maikeru

Tyler 10-02-2011 02:02 PM

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Posted by DrDoctor (Post 17930)
If a player is using an iPad won't they have a wider screen and less lag as well. Considering that then iPads should be banned too since I'm guessing more players own a PC then an iPad. It's more of a placebo effect, players convince themselves that if another player is on a PC that they have faster speed and advantages from the average iPhone user so they end up seeing those "advantages".

True. I forgot all about the iPads.

Yephenpeace 10-03-2011 06:01 AM

Agreed with the people saying they shouldn't be banned for winning. It sounds really stupid and unfair to not let a guild enter because their "too good".. I would have raged if that was me

G Fatal 10-03-2011 12:28 PM

Personally I think US should still be allowed to play in every tournement, you've got to beat the best to become the best and in most events the winner wouldn't be told they cant play in the next event they do, so why does everyone want them not to? Yes they may be 'oh yeah,we won' to everyone and thinking their like gods; but that doesn't make them not allowed to play the next GST...

Now Here is what I disagree on:
The time set for GST... Its completely bias to players from USA.
For me a UK player one of the GST Officially the matches started at 1am.
So it's a huge disadvantage for us as were most likely not going to be on our laptops/PC's then while on the other hand USA players could easily be on then and not be tired in the slightest...
Now im not saying do a better time for UK players in general but am saying do a better time for all. 'cause its also a disadvantage for Dutch, German players etc.

Pazx 10-03-2011 01:00 PM

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Posted by Gricey (Post 18307)
Now Here is what I disagree on:
The time set for GST... Its completely bias to players from USA.
For me a UK player one of the GST Officially the matches started at 1am.
So it's a huge disadvantage for us as were most likely not going to be on our laptops/PC's then while on the other hand USA players could easily be on then and not be tired in the slightest...
Now im not saying do a better time for UK players in general but am saying do a better time for all. 'cause its also a disadvantage for Dutch, German players etc.

I reckon the FB and iPhone tourneys should be on at different times/days, so if you miss one you can make the other. I can't make the tourney at the time it currently is.

Terry IdkH 10-03-2011 02:06 PM

Troll you guys forgot Graal =/= Reaf life.

Just live with it, don't cry, don't complain just shut up. If you care about other 2D-Pixels, you should go and die. Even US didn't complained, they just got another tag, so why do you complain?

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