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Fatnoob 09-17-2012 03:26 PM

John* not allowing a gun?
 
The title already says, John* isn't allowing a gun (pbp) in tts (tag team spar).
I already made a poll in my own status, but he wanted to see it on www.graalians.com

So I wanted to know it from you guys, what do you think?

HappyCat123 09-17-2012 03:30 PM

If you took the time to take your mommys credit card you have the right to use your gun.

MementoJoker 09-17-2012 03:38 PM

As much as I dislike it, it's your gun you paid for, you should absolutely have the right.

RedBoy786* 09-17-2012 04:00 PM

Well, if thats the case I don't think any op gun should be allowed eg, bar, m3 (atm), etc.and for what reason is it 'banned' in Tts anyways? I actually enjoy people using it in spar due to the slight freeze. Plus, its nerfed = it's pretty crap unless u run into all the bullets which not even a noob would...

Johnaudi 09-17-2012 04:12 PM

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Posted by RedBoy786* (Post 199763)
Well, if thats the case I don't think any op gun should be allowed eg, bar, m3 (atm), etc.and for what reason is it 'banned' in Tts anyways? I actually enjoy people using it in spar due to the slight freeze. Plus, its nerfed = it's pretty crap unless u run into all the bullets which not even a noob would...

I'm not accepting any shotgun for a reason, the arena is too small and it's a bit hard to dodge it. I accept bar since it got one single spread (even tho it could be spammed).

So it's either play fair game, or start cursing about the spam.

lord greg 09-17-2012 04:13 PM

It's true having shotguns mean you dont have to aim at the other person

MementoJoker 09-17-2012 04:15 PM

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Posted by Johnaudi (Post 199773)
I'm not accepting any shotgun for a reason, the arena is too small and it's a bit hard to dodge it. I accept bar since it got one single spread (even tho it could be spammed).

So it's either play fair game, or start cursing about the spam.

This is relatively unfair...
What if someones only "good" gun is a PBP?

RedBoy786* 09-17-2012 04:16 PM

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Posted by Johnaudi (Post 199773)
I'm not accepting any shotgun for a reason, the arena is too small and it's a bit hard to dodge it. I accept bar since it got one single spread (even tho it could be spammed).

So it's either play fair game, or start cursing about the spam.

Is it just u doing this or other admins too? :)

Johnaudi 09-17-2012 04:20 PM

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Posted by Dimentio (Post 199777)
This is relatively unfair...
What if someones only "good" gun is a PBP?

Nobody's good with PBP, they can easily kill someone my shooting the same side...

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Posted by RedBoy786* (Post 199778)
Is it just u doing this or other admins too? :)

I'm not sure, but I think it's just me.

MementoJoker 09-17-2012 04:21 PM

I mean his only decent weapon is a PBP shotgun, not his skill level.
PBP got nerfed and it isn't op as it once was, people should dodge the bullets, then.

Johnaudi 09-17-2012 04:23 PM

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Posted by Dimentio (Post 199784)
I mean his only decent weapon is a PBP shotgun, not his skill level.
PBP got nerfed and it isn't op as it once was, people should dodge the bullets, then.

What if people are good with Napalms and are denied in events?

MementoJoker 09-17-2012 04:25 PM

What does Napalms have to do with this? ._.
I mean, PBP is a gun and Napalm is a pseudo grenade.
All guns should be allowed in spar, we worked hard (finished our parents' credit cards) to get them after all.

RedBoy786* 09-17-2012 04:29 PM

Wait, say if I use the pbp, do I just get kicked from the event or ________

Johnaudi 09-17-2012 04:32 PM

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Posted by Dimentio (Post 199788)
What does Napalms have to do with this? ._.
I mean, PBP is a gun and Napalm is a pseudo grenade.
All guns should be allowed in spar, we worked hard (finished our parents' credit cards) to get them after all.

Napalms was an example, some people worked hard on buying a lot of Napalms. The purpose of TTS is to work as a team, and the most skilled person should get the prize.
Let's say spam is allowed (Napalms / PBP)... How would you consider someone killing you with them? My first 3 hosted tag team spar, people that had PBP always outran anyone since the arena is pretty slow. TTS is a skill event, still remember when someone with 4 hours won elegant chance and I thought him how to grab the EC.

Higbey 09-17-2012 04:32 PM

id say make a bigger arena for shotgun spars

Johnaudi 09-17-2012 04:33 PM

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Posted by RedBoy786* (Post 199791)
Wait, say if I use the pbp, do I just get kicked from the event or ________

I'd usually wait until I see you use it (shoot at least twice or three times) to check if you will change it or not. Else I kick you... Lol

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Posted by Higbey (Post 199793)
id say make a bigger arena for shotgun spars

this ^

RedBoy786* 09-17-2012 04:36 PM

[QUOTE=Johnaudi;199794]I'd usually wait until I see you use it (shoot at least twice or three times) to check if you will change it or not. Else I kick you... Lol



Do u atleast give a warning out to the people who don't read the forums as imagine if I'm like the last 5 people or something and coz I really want to win I take out the pbp and then get kicked :/ I would be very mad bro,

Johnaudi 09-17-2012 04:37 PM

[QUOTE=RedBoy786*;199795]
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Posted by Johnaudi (Post 199794)
I'd usually wait until I see you use it (shoot at least twice or three times) to check if you will change it or not. Else I kick you... Lol



Do u atleast give a warning out to the people who don't read the forums as imagine if I'm like the last 5 people or something and coz I really want to win I take out the pbp and then get kicked :/ I would be very mad bro,

At the beginning of the game, "Use PBP = kick"

Fatnoob 09-17-2012 04:42 PM

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Posted by RedBoy786* (Post 199778)
Is it just u doing this or other admins too? :)

Javi does too.

Olirus 09-17-2012 04:46 PM

To be honest I think you should have a right to whatever gun you want to use, this is a gangster game they don't settle if there aloud shotguns or not they just shoot whatever they have in there hand at the time.

Johnaudi 09-17-2012 04:49 PM

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Posted by Olirus (Post 199801)
To be honest I think you should have a right to whatever gun you want to use, this is a gangster game they don't settle if there aloud shotguns or not they just shoot whatever they have in there hand at the time.

Then why aren't napalms allowed then?

MementoJoker 09-17-2012 04:56 PM

Napalms function quite differently than PBP..

Fatnoob 09-17-2012 04:59 PM

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Posted by Dimentio (Post 199805)
Napalms functions quite differently than PBP..

What he said ^

Johnaudi 09-17-2012 04:59 PM

Quote:

Posted by Dimentio (Post 199805)
Napalms functions quite differently than PBP..

Both spams, both laggy, both high damage when hit.

MementoJoker 09-17-2012 05:02 PM

One's a gun another one's a grenade.
Guns should be used in spar, or else they shouldn't be implemented at all.
I'm not saying you NEED to make them usable, but imo you should.

RedBoy786* 09-17-2012 05:03 PM

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Posted by Johnaudi (Post 199808)
Both spams, both laggy, both high damage when hit.

PBP damage after nerf= 4 per bullet (5 if upgraded) and only a sucker would run into all the bullets causing like 20,

Napalm= like 10 damage and if u stay in it, its like 2hp per secound or something,

In my opinion, PBP SHOULD be allowed. :)

Fatnoob 09-17-2012 05:04 PM

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Posted by Johnaudi (Post 199808)
Both spams, both laggy, both high damage when hit.

Napalm = Wide range and high damage.
PBP = Close range and a high damage

Still napalm is more laggy then pbp, test it, go to a gangbase with lots of noobs with napalm... let them through and u die in a few second..

Go to a gangbase with 10 people with PBP, 2 napalm is ''laggy'er'' then 10 pbp's.

Ozzy_Magus 09-17-2012 05:05 PM

y'all shut up and read this-v

Finally someone that wants to see action and no laming,because the arena is very very small and it has been made smaller because you fhucking ****** complained that the other one was too big.You wanted a small arena?Then now there will be some rules.
Sowhat you guys gonna die cause you can't use any op shotguns?Srsly stop crying and god damn accept it.In tts there even should only be ONE random gun for EVERYONE.
no pbp in tts=Fair.

MementoJoker 09-17-2012 05:06 PM

You're the last one who should talk about crying.
Just because others have a different opinion doesn't mean you should bash them.

RedBoy786* 09-17-2012 05:10 PM

I actually agree with Ozzy on this one but only on the last thing he said. Thier should be one balanced gun or a crap gun which can ONLY be used in tts. This is good for people who have the skill but not the money to buy the OP guns. :)

btw, why do we have those crap customs in tts :( i like my panda better and if your not focused its so hard to see if your the one in the arena getting spammed and nearly dead or not....

ps- are rings still allowed?

MementoJoker 09-17-2012 05:10 PM

Because it reduces lag.

VincentViga 09-17-2012 05:11 PM

He is just making the game more fair for the people who don't have money enough to waste them on a overpowered gun.

Fatnoob 09-17-2012 05:15 PM

Otherwise just make a gun specially designed for tts.

RedBoy786* 09-17-2012 05:18 PM

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Posted by Fatnoob (Post 199831)
Otherwise just make a gun specially designed for tts.

Totally agreed. One good gun with decent stats which is the ONLY gun u can use. Kinda like in Laser Tag where u could only use the laser gun and nothing else. :)

Fatnoob 09-17-2012 05:20 PM

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Posted by RedBoy786* (Post 199834)
Totally agreed. One good gun with decent stats which is the ONLY gun u can use. Kinda like in Laser Tag where u could only use the laser gun and nothing else. :)

Just add Olirus' gun that he made, make it 7/8 damage, low freeze rate and tada.
Solved the mystery!

RedBoy786* 09-17-2012 05:24 PM

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Posted by Fatnoob (Post 199835)
Just add Olirus' gun that he made, make it 7/8 damage, low freeze rate and tada.
Solved the mystery!

Agreed yet again. That way, tts will be dependant on the skill of the player and not the skill of a gun, :)

Fatnoob 09-17-2012 05:25 PM

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Posted by RedBoy786* (Post 199837)
Agreed yet again. That way, tts will be dependant on the skill of the player and not the skill of a gun, :)

Next time we gonna be a team! =)

Agreed?

RedBoy786* 09-17-2012 05:27 PM

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Posted by Fatnoob (Post 199838)
Next time we gonna be a team! =)

Agreed?

Yay!

SnakeRekon 09-17-2012 05:45 PM

Didn't read the thread, just the title.

Event Team Members are pretty free to create their own rule-sets for certain events such as TTS, I believe it adds a bit of uniqueness to each Event Team Member and their individual events, if you do not wish to participate using these select rules, please opt out of such events and wait for another events team member to host.

As a prime example, I make my own rules in regards to explosive chance, I add a unique spin on top of the regular gameplay, John is merely doing this exact same thing by adding a little extra competition into tag tag team rather than PBP Shotgun being sprayed in such a small area.

I may even have a command made to disable the PBP Shotgun as a special "Rule set" so it is easier to police.

Fatnoob 09-17-2012 06:44 PM

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 199855)
Didn't read the thread, just the title.

Event Team Members are pretty free to create their own rule-sets for certain events such as TTS, I believe it adds a bit of uniqueness to each Event Team Member and their individual events, if you do not wish to participate using these select rules, please opt out of such events and wait for another events team member to host.

As a prime example, I make my own rules in regards to explosive chance, I add a unique spin on top of the regular gameplay, John is merely doing this exact same thing by adding a little extra competition into tag tag team rather than PBP Shotgun being sprayed in such a small area.

I may even have a command made to disable the PBP Shotgun as a special "Rule set" so it is easier to police.

Wow, do you even know how long to wait till a event team member is hosting?
If you make a pbp option? Make a bar, sten, m3, m1, acr, shipka, glock, etc. setting...

Higbey 09-17-2012 06:49 PM

this is what happens on a server where money is a factor in weapons, and where guns arent all balanced and equal,

so sad.

RedBoy786* 09-17-2012 07:00 PM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 199876)
this is what happens on a server where money is a factor in weapons, and where guns arent all balanced and equal,

so sad.

This has nothing related to money making :/ John is actually discouraging people from buying the pbp as if they do they won't be able to use it in the event :/

Jester Lapse 09-17-2012 07:04 PM

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Posted by RedBoy786* (Post 199886)

This has nothing related to money making :/ John is actually discouraging people from buying the pbp as if they do they won't be able to use it in the event :/

Not using it in one event will make you not buy it? Lol

I like John's decision. If you look where the tts is located, it's located under skill. Using PBP in that small arena, any nub can win. I prefer skill spars rather than spam me spars.

Snake you should also make an option only M4, Famas, or those single shot weapons. Skill sparring <3

RedBoy786* 09-17-2012 07:09 PM

What about fatnoobs idea :( that will totally determine who deserves the win as everyone would have the same gun, hence the best man with the best skill will win, not the best gun :)

Jester Lapse 09-17-2012 07:12 PM

because single shot weapons are relatively balanced as is. Limiting to only one gun takes away the skill factor because people practice with different guns

RedBoy786* 09-17-2012 07:13 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 199894)
because single shot weapons are relatively balanced as is. Limiting to only one gun takes away the skill factor because people practice with different guns

I'm not gonna try arguing with u again,

Jester Lapse 09-17-2012 07:36 PM

Smart idea :)

BboyEatsbacon 09-17-2012 08:04 PM

The ET is allowed to justify his own ruling in events. He wants no shotguns? So be it.

It's not like he's saying to only allow one team to win.

Scar 09-17-2012 08:08 PM

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Posted by BboyEatsbacon (Post 199934)
It's not like he's saying to only allow one team to win.

can't only one team win.lol

BboyEatsbacon 09-17-2012 08:14 PM

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Posted by Scar (Post 199935)
can't only one team win.lol

I meant like him stating, "Blue must all die so that Red can move on."


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