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bobo 09-03-2012 06:40 PM

One Idiot Mistake
 
This is a public apology to those of the iEra community, especially those involved with events. If this does not apply to you, please do not feel obligated to read this or post irrelevant comments.

I, along with some other members of the gang Idiotism, would like to apologize for some previous and reoccurring actions that we have done. For those not fully aware of the situation, let me explain:
Idiotism was a gang unintentionally filled with active event players. The leaders of the gang chose to recruit friends, however, most friends were met through the event house. Well, some of us became very good at winning events, to the point where the gang could win 5 consecutive events as a whole. This was our first mistake, because soon we were preventing many players from earning their event coins, especially in team events such as tts. A few months later, many of the members accomplished their goals in regards to the event shop, which would lead to our second mistake. I came up with an idea at the time, why not win events then leave without taking the event coin? From our point of view, this idea was flawless. Admins would be able to host more than 5 events, and we could easily shut out all other players until the person we wanted the ec to go to would win. We paid no attention to how this would effect all of the other players. First, we would waste the time of the event host and the players, and afterwards we were hoarding event coins, something many of us resented. Well, we needed a wake-up call, and that came when HomelessWitch decided to stand up against our plan. After several win-and-leaves in her events, she decided to open the event, and right before she started, she would warp the entire gang out. This didn't affect us the first time, but then when our long-time friend Waffle encouraged it, we were stunned. Then we figured out what we did wrong.

To conclude this story, Idiotism was messed up from the beginning. The gang turned many of us into the selfish players that we tried to avoid, and we didn't notice. I am glad to say that the gang is no longer how it was before, now with 20 less members, so there will no longer be any reason to warp out the gang Idiotism. I would like to apologize again, and briefly inform the current and next generation of event winners: If you are going to events to play the way they were not intended, don't go at all. Think about the other players as well, not just yourself and your friends.

Wolfy 09-03-2012 06:51 PM

i dont know how to respond to this

eric 09-03-2012 07:12 PM

I still love you bobo from the time I joined We got like 4 hours or so and we made it this far, I would suck a ..... Yeah I already told you & poorface what I would do to get back in, missyas:)

V. 09-03-2012 07:17 PM

I personally don't take part in events. But, I respect you for realising your mistake.
Let's move on. :)

Sup3rn00b 09-03-2012 08:14 PM

Members join other gangs and continue to play.. is this legal?

Koda 09-03-2012 08:21 PM

Learn to Read
 
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Posted by Sup3rn00b (Post 192430)
Members join other gangs and continue to play.. is this legal?

I Agree Those players Who Joined Another Gang,good at events,and was once in Idiotisms,Wouldn't That still be illegal they're just too selfish that they can't let us win not even 1 event.

bobo 09-03-2012 08:33 PM

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Posted by Sup3rn00b (Post 192430)
Members join other gangs and continue to play.. is this legal?

Hopefully they will stop. If not, "Event Disruption" is supposed to be a reason to jail certain players if this gets out of hand.

MementoJoker 09-03-2012 08:36 PM

Bobo and Dude are the only ones I like in Idiotism. <3 (no homo)
The others, howelver (excluding Franklin) are kinda nice..

Gamelova 09-03-2012 09:08 PM

It still doesnt resolve the issue...

Sup3rn00b 09-03-2012 09:09 PM

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Posted by bobo (Post 192460)
Hopefully they will stop. If not, "Event Disruption" is supposed to be a reason to jail certain players if this gets out of hand.

i lost a race to him >.<

hes the black suit, green hat, brown hair katana guy. I forget his name lol

Yogy* 09-03-2012 09:36 PM

Its a hard choise to be event hoarder or to make HW kick you out of event. Bobo nice thread its exactly what i was thinking about... I mean that part about leaving the ec. I was doing it so admin host more events but HW destroyed our plan thats sad.

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Posted by bobo (Post 192460)
Hopefully they will stop. If not, "Event Disruption" is supposed to be a reason to jail certain players if this gets out of hand.

I never knew there is a rule about taking or not taking the ec o.o no one told us its illegal... But im not sure it is.

poorface 09-03-2012 09:49 PM

Yeah, now hopefully I won't get crap about why idiotism has 5 members now. at first, it was a joke and we wanted them to host more events, but as it turns out, we wasted the hosters and players time. I won't try to justify what we did, nor will I justify that it was completely bad, but when some people started blaming waffle for not stopping HW, things fell apart.

slick 09-03-2012 09:54 PM

Because of idiotism I come In second every time -.-

Panma 09-03-2012 11:04 PM

Dont apologize for winning events. If you have a skill then use it. But if you are purpopsely wining events to shut out other users trying gain EC, that's a problem.

poorface 09-03-2012 11:11 PM

No, the problem is we won the events, but said "leave" so the event was a waste of time for the hoster because they weren't able to give away the event coin.

eric 09-03-2012 11:12 PM

Slick not every event pro is in idiotism.

poorface 09-03-2012 11:15 PM

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Posted by eric (Post 192588)
Slick not every event pro is in idiotism.

Only bobo is now :)

eric 09-03-2012 11:29 PM

Poorface dont lie you got a saber too!!!

Sup3rn00b 09-04-2012 12:57 AM

I saw Yami and weird818 in events just now, as well as faliure and yogy. dude was hosting, not sure if that has something to do with it. Now im not so sure how sincere this appology is.

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...64431650_n.jpg

bobo 09-04-2012 01:16 AM

I believe those players are there to win the event like it was supposed to be, which I cannot stop them from doing... However they should not manipulate the events (through winning then leaving) to give the event coin to a specific person.

Sup3rn00b 09-04-2012 01:19 AM

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Posted by bobo (Post 192724)
(through winning then leaving)

how would this manipulate events?

poorface 09-04-2012 01:20 AM

Because they werent on idiotism tag considering they're all kicked. :) besides failure and maybe because HW didn't warp em out

bobo 09-04-2012 01:27 AM

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Posted by Sup3rn00b (Post 192730)
how would this manipulate events?

By continuously winning event after event, then leaving without taking the event coins, a player or group of players would be able to choose who they want or do not want to win. If a certain player who they want to win is in second place behind them, they could stop short and let that player win. If a player who they do not want to win is in second, they could win the event and prevent all others from earning their ecs. This is the main reason why we had to end Idiotism and discourage win-and-leaves, which also wastes the time of the event host and players.

Gamelova 09-04-2012 01:28 AM

Even though your all spread out, each individually can still suck up all the EC's. So it doesn't make a damn difference. Unless we pick out the specific people who are good at it, put a limit on them.

bobo 09-04-2012 01:38 AM

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Posted by Gamelova (Post 192738)
Even though your all spread out, each individually can still suck up all the EC's. So it doesn't make a damn difference. Unless we pick out the specific people who are good at it, put a limit on them.

From what I know, many of the former Idiotism members share a common philosophy with poorface and myself. Some of us, as I said before, resent hoarding event coins (in my case, because of past experience with hoarders) and refuse to obtain any ecs. There are still some who are trying to accomplish an event related goal, and I have no right to stop them. However, these players should not be able to "suck up all the EC's".

Sup3rn00b 09-04-2012 02:00 AM

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Posted by bobo (Post 192745)
From what I know, many of the former Idiotism members share a common philosophy with poorface and myself. Some of us, as I said before, resent hoarding event coins (in my case, because of past experience with hoarders) and refuse to obtain any ecs. There are still some who are trying to accomplish an event related goal, and I have no right to stop them. However, these players should not be able to "suck up all the EC's".

You and poorface are the only ones i dont see at events anymore. I thank you for not taking all the ec.

poorface 09-04-2012 02:02 AM

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Posted by Sup3rn00b (Post 192754)
You and poorface are the only ones i dont see at events anymore. I thank you for not taking all the ec.

Don't thank us. We don't deserve it after what we've done.

failure 09-04-2012 02:15 AM

Psh I do events for fun. Not for ecs.

That's why we didn't pick up the ecs...I guess we should just deal with barely 5 events a day, if we're lucky enough to be on for them.

eric 09-04-2012 02:16 AM

Failure never did anything to anyone hes so innocent and I just love being around him!

Gamelova 09-04-2012 02:16 AM

Any proof?

failure 09-04-2012 02:18 AM

Also, only some of us do not want event coins. Weird and yami still want things in the event shop, so you can't blame them. And you shouldn't blame the ones who didn't take ecs either, they just wanted a little more fun

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Posted by Gamelova (Post 192771)
Any proof?

...I'm pretty sure uve spammed me hi a couple times

Higbey 09-04-2012 02:20 AM

Bobo I applaud you responding and apologizing, we need more players able to recognize and respond maturely and own up to their own mistakes, glad to see HW did something positive for once, most of the times I hear about her she is doing something bad ,


I believe certain restrictions should be put on the "elite" event winners to give all players a chance, maybe the ability to mark certain players to be unable to participate in "novice events"?

failure 09-04-2012 02:26 AM

I respect all former Idiotism members, and I would appreciate it if no one talks bad about them. Think it, I don't care. Say it, and I won't like it.

Also, I don't believe it fair to just block all of a gang for what a few do. It's unfair to those who still want the ecs. And, blocking event players from events is like blocking a pker from Pking. It's not right. I believe hw did a good thing, just a little extreme. She could have just had a stern talk with us or something, explaining that we were wasting everyone's time.

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Posted by Higbey (Post 192775)

I believe certain restrictions should be put on the "elite" event winners to give all players a chance, maybe the ability to mark certain players to be unable to participate in "novice events"?

if they restrict them, why isn't EBIZOU BASE restricted...?

eric 09-04-2012 02:26 AM

I may be desperate for a LightSaber but I would Quit Event coins for idiotism.

Higbey 09-04-2012 02:32 AM

how about all players that have earned over a certain amount of ec in total are tagged, given some little showy item, but also tagged so they cannot participate in any event that the hoster sets as a novice event, thus newer players get a chance, while the "elite" are not punished and are not completly shut out.

poorface 09-04-2012 02:36 AM

That's a nice idea, but wouldn't it require a lot of work to go into logs and find out how many events someone, everyone, has won?

failure 09-04-2012 02:39 AM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 192784)
tagged so they cannot participate in any event that the hoster sets as a novice event

"novices" would beg for novice events. Not being able to participate=punishment

eric 09-04-2012 02:40 AM

NAILED IT, higbey, failure just made you look like his name!!!!

Higbey 09-04-2012 02:40 AM

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Posted by failure (Post 192768)
Psh I do events for fun. Not for ecs.

That's why we didn't pick up the ecs...I guess we should just deal with barely 5 events a day, if we're lucky enough to be on for them.

nice lie, when you didnt pick up the ec it got wasted, not given away. if you just do it for fun, you would have just stopped short and let whoever was in second place win, be like bobo, own up and stop, wait till staff figure out how to make it more fair and accept the limits and be happy they havent made it so all of idiotism is banned permenatly from events

eric 09-04-2012 02:41 AM

Ahaha I thought getting skill resulted in rewards not punishment.

Higbey 09-04-2012 02:43 AM

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Posted by failure (Post 192792)
"novices" would beg for novice events. Not being able to participate=punishment

sometimes you need to accept it to make the game fair and more fun for the majority. plus, ec doesnt matter to you, so it really shouldnt matter.


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Posted by eric (Post 192797)
Ahaha I though skill was result in rewards not privellages Taken away.

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Posted by Higbey (Post 192784)
how about all players that have earned over a certain amount of ec in total are tagged, given some little showy item,


Xertic 09-04-2012 02:46 AM

Nice grammar.

failure 09-04-2012 02:50 AM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 192795)
nice lie, when you didnt pick up the ec it got wasted, not given away. if you just do it for fun, you would have just stopped short and let whoever was in second place win, be like bobo, own up and stop, wait till staff figure out how to make it more fair and accept the limits and be happy they havent made it so all of idiotism is banned permenatly from events

How would we know it was wasted? We thought they did an extra event. And I am not one of the ones who did not want ecs, I collected them for items I wanted, until recently when I achieved my goals through the achievements.

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Posted by Higbey (Post 192798)
sometimes you need to accept it to make the game fair and more fun for the majority. plus, ec doesnt matter to you, so it really shouldnt matter.

Fair. So not letting people play because they're good at it is fair? I think not.

Gamelova 09-04-2012 03:03 AM

Well, that's not the love of Jesus </3.

eric 09-04-2012 03:05 AM

WOW THAT IS SO GAY GAMELOVA GO TO HELL

Man I need to speak my mind more often, sorry though.

Higbey 09-04-2012 03:07 AM

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Posted by eric (Post 192816)
WOW THAT IS SO GAY GAMELOVA GO TO HELL

Man I need to speak my mind more often, sorry though.

Trust me, if you speak your mind like that, don't speak it more often unless you want to be banned. Be civil.

Gamelova 09-04-2012 03:09 AM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 192822)
Trust me, if you speak your mind like that, don't speak it more often unless you want to be banned. Be civil.

Amen to Higbey. No, don't literally limit the EC for them, but I'm just so sick of them hogging all the EC. Not giving the other players a chance. Don't give me the "I'll win EC, and give it you" crap.

Craftz 09-04-2012 03:10 AM

How ironic is it that a demon is talking about being civil.

eric 09-04-2012 03:11 AM

Dammit gotta take the higbears advice.

poorface 09-04-2012 03:11 AM

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Posted by Gamelova (Post 192815)
Yeah, just dont play. Let others win, stop hogging all the EC. If fact, let the Idiots have a EC limit. 1 EC per week.

Problem is, you've been asking me to recruit you for quite some time, and we've already kicked everyone.


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