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McCullough 12-09-2016 04:24 PM

I don't push for leaderboards anymore since there isn't a great incentive, but I would like to know the opinions of others.

Sarah_ 12-09-2016 04:29 PM

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Posted by Red (Post 747022)
It's funny watching Sarah try to justify leaving Amity to join Silver (If you didn't care about the GST then why were you asking staff to delete the hat from your account, once again clearly showing some strong emotions towards actually losing)

I mean if I was to be honest here you need to find a team big enough to fit your over sized ego.

WTF i didnt ask for the hat to be deleted from my acc because i lost
1. i wasnt serious(admins obv will never do that)
2. i just dont like oversized hats its a waste of place for me

I publicly apologize to the gfx admin who made that hat tho, he did a great job my team loved it!

As i said i wasn't expecting to win that GST at all and i even encouraged alumni.
Silver didnt lose because of me, in the overall i did more hits than i took against RD and VIS sub team (forgot the name) i remember getting 10 hits on them and we still tied..

Kicko 12-09-2016 04:31 PM

red shut up lol

Kosiris 12-09-2016 04:44 PM

how am I in tier 3

Alex R 12-09-2016 04:49 PM

No one has even said on this thread that silver lost because of you , so u don't need to keep talking about how u did the best on your team over and over lol. Amity was a shambles imo anyway , inco and fro aren't at their best going ultra defensive and shaheen and Alexx aren't at their best going offensive lol they hardly pushed as a team because of opposing styles, so I don't see why people think the alumni people carried just because shaheen would start getting hits after everyone was dead. RD were prepared for this and that's why they won

Colin 12-09-2016 04:49 PM

yeah Kosiris is like tier 8 and thats being generous

super kurosaki 12-09-2016 04:52 PM

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Posted by Kicko (Post 747026)
red shut up lol

agred lol red shut up

Sarah_ 12-09-2016 04:57 PM

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Posted by Alex R (Post 747029)
No one has even said on this thread that silver lost because of you , so u don't need to keep talking about how u did the best on your team over and over lol. Amity was a shambles imo anyway , inco and fro aren't at their best going ultra defensive and shaheen and Alexx aren't at their best going offensive lol they hardly pushed as a team because of opposing styles, so I don't see why people think the alumni people carried just because shaheen would start getting hits after everyone was dead. RD were prepared for this and that's why they won

Im not trying to say that but red is trying to say that I did bad in the gst or something.
vv
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Posted by Red (Post 747022)
It's funny watching Sarah try to justify leaving Amity to join Silver (If you didn't care about the GST then why were you asking staff to delete the hat from your account, once again clearly showing some strong emotions towards actually losing)

I mean if I was to be honest here you need to find a team big enough to fit your over sized ego.



im not saying alumni carried because shaheen was the last one alive but look at the hit count.

Shaheen and alexx had the best hit count so yes alumni carried. + 2 GSTs ago they cornered every team, they can push and be defensive at the same time unlike vis.

Comyt 12-09-2016 06:14 PM

was summoned to weigh in and honestly didn't even want to post anything because this guy gets off from it, but it's whatever. y'all don't even continue posting on this, he's just trying to trigger you. dude's a complete nutcase, once commenting on the thallen rumor (whatever it is, don't care) "i wish it was me who did that". if you feel you were ranked poorly on this, you're probably right and dark probably has an issue with you from some GST-induced post traumatic stress disorder, losing to you way too many times (ex: my "setting GST records" and still getting 8 hits to 6 received, inco "you should be lower lol"). just ignore this "T3" (no comment) clown and let him stroke his ego in peace. thought finally winning GST (with 3 sage members by the way, you're welcome) would help him get mentally well after losing so many times in a row, but i guess it ain't happening and his victory lap is even more obnoxious than his complaining/excuses.

don't bother responding to me because you have no argument unless you're fabricating something like "i never lost to you in my life" when i've beaten you for at least 200 of my wins, and i'm not trying to participate in a my word vs. your word argument. in all seriousness, hope you get well soon. you were a decent dude until your 7th GST loss, good luck getting back to that.

Colin 12-09-2016 06:29 PM

could tell something was up when the only mistake he made was putting COlin instead of Colin because otherwise I wouldn't have noticed it since I haven't sparred in like 2 years and shouldn't even be on the list
(I didn't let him register accounts under other peoples names, so he could troll and pretend to be them)

the problem with these lists is there will always be a bias regardless of who makes them, they may not use that on purpose but a lot of times it unintentionally affects how they rank people, especially when it's a community troll who has a lot of bad blood with people

Darkk 12-09-2016 08:05 PM

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Posted by Comyt (Post 747039)
once commenting on the thallen rumor (whatever it is, don't care) "i wish it was me who did that".

"i never lost to you in my life" when i've beaten you for at least 200 of my wins

Never skyped you (you claim this is where I said that), don't know why you keep brining this up, a failed troll.

Only ever sparred you in our series when I went 10-4 (on pc at 3am or something lol.) When I submitted this thread I knew I would trigger this "clown"

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Posted by Kosiris (Post 747027)
how am I in tier 3

I think you are good

If I recall correctly, in the finals the VIS members got pushed back easily and at times sat behind the other 3. That allowed us to come in from angles and hit the others. Could argue thats the reason they lost

Ryu/John 12-09-2016 08:11 PM

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Posted by Void (Post 746966)
I am not denying that you've got some skills, but farming a positive gs ratio against weaker teams in the first few rounds isn't too hard really. That is to be expected of someone who knows what he's doing, so it's nothing to brag about.
If the hit counts were correct then Thallen had a 1.8 ratio, I believe. Which is scary good, but I digress.
The point is that you went negative and hardly contributed to spars in the finals other than these end scenarios.
Which may have been key moments but they wouldve been avoidable if some of you would've carried their weight better. Thallen got hits for two, basically. I doubt Holy would've won without him.

Hardly contributed in the finals? Void I don't remember you contributing to neidomu at all so I wouldn't pull something like that. Also if you look at your team composition you have a good amount of offensive/defensive sparrers, look at Holy lineup: Aguzo, Brett, Thallen, Rainmaker, and myself. That lineup is aggressive, so I felt I should've tried to play more safe, sometimes getting hit but not rushing in with blink hits to retaliate (which is how I usually play). As Aguzo eloquently mentioned in his post, everyone has a specific job in a team and I did mine. During my GST with Alumni I started 22-24 against average teams and in the semifinals vs (SLX's best gst) and vs (Whitebeard) I went 48-30 (1.6 ratio). That was a very balanced team so I didn't have to do much other than play my usual style. My point is, I'm not claiming MVP, or boasting about doing amazing, but labeling my performance as being "carried" lacks support. Would Holy have won without Thallen? Probably not (but I never claimed Holy would have, so I don't know why this is even mentioned???) as Thallen is a crucial piece to any team's victory, and if I'm not mistaken I remember Thallen carrying teams far more than Holy GST in the past.

Kosiris 12-09-2016 08:31 PM

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Posted by Colin (Post 747030)
yeah Kosiris is like tier 8 and thats being generous

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Posted by Darkk (Post 747045)
I think you are good

was thinking I should be in T1 or above..but alright

super kurosaki 12-09-2016 08:43 PM

u know this a joke when jamies ranked above ryan...

Void 12-09-2016 08:45 PM

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Posted by Ryu/John (Post 747052)
Hardly contributed in the finals? Void I don't remember you contributing to neidomu at all so I wouldn't pull something like that. Also if you look at your team composition you have a good amount of offensive/defensive sparrers, look at Holy lineup: Aguzo, Brett, Thallen, Rainmaker, and myself. That lineup is aggressive, so I felt I should've tried to play more safe, sometimes getting hit but not rushing in with blink hits to retaliate (which is how I usually play). As Aguzo eloquently mentioned in his post, everyone has a specific job in a team and I did mine. During my GST with Alumni I started 22-24 against average teams and in the semifinals vs (SLX's best gst) and vs (Whitebeard) I went 48-30 (1.6 ratio). That was a very balanced team so I didn't have to do much other than play my usual style. My point is, I'm not claiming MVP, or boasting about doing amazing, but labeling my performance as being "carried" lacks support. Would Holy have won without Thallen? Probably not (but I never claimed Holy would have, so I don't know why this is even mentioned???) as Thallen is a crucial piece to any team's victory, and if I'm not mistaken I remember Thallen carrying teams far more than Holy GST in the past.

Of course I can pull something like that, as I was more or less a mere spectator this GST, but a spectator still judges (like in pretty much every other "spectator sport") and is allowed to do so.
Ofc there's a job in a team, though I don't really see "Distractor" or "Bodybag" as legitimate roles.
Thallen was crucial in the finals, You admit Yourself, so why would it be unjust to say that he carried (Holy)?
Why would it matter if he carried others harder btw, that doesn't change the fact that he carried You
Blaming the other team's composition is the most bull**** excuse I've ever heard.


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