Spite and rash decisions are really messing things up for everyone

I am working with several people who play Zone and other servers, not limiting myself to one opinion. And since the ZPs are most likely the admins with the best player connections on Zone, means that they also get players feedback. We don't need Geno

I doubt the best, Geno had a wid variety of new stuff he probably was gonna release, but now you just seem like u really hate him and want him out of this

He can't release, Manager mostly does.

Hell, I had tons of ideas for iZone, but it doesn't mean I had a bunch of stuff I was going to release. I surely wasn't going to code my idea or develop them in any way most likely.

The highest quality result will only source from an actual weapons admin. Crowd-sourcing is too unreliable - there will be a wide range of opinions with people's bias and preferences skewing the results.

He said he had permission to somewere in this thread
To bad the new guns gone to waste :( they were top quality to most would love them

Chelterrar, as a player and customer of GraalOnline Zone for iPhone, I don't appreciate you toying around with Zone simply because you can. Many of us here on the forum have played Zone for 3+ years and are invested in the well being and success of the server; we legitimately want it to prosper because we love it.
I find it hard to believe you care about Zone when you have never played it at all. Why are you the manager?


Edit: This all sounds rather harsh, I mean no offense/disrespect to you or to any other staff member when I say things like this. I just prefer to be blunt and clear when dealing with communication

Also, who on earth is Nikki and why is she ZPA?

I have no intention of running your server into the ground or simply toying with it. My main goal currently is to get the staff team organized and things back on track. I made it clear to everybody that I am only going to be here until the server is back on track. Then I'm going back to my home server Delteria. Until that I will do everything it takes to make iZone a better place. I know some of you might think the changes are bad or weird, but I want Zone to be unique. A lot of people still see it as an iEra Rip off and I personally wanna change that.

There are things being worked on that will keep the players entertained permanently, we have a new tileset which is being worked on (there might be a sneak peak in a few weeks) and more projects. A lot of stuff is being done behind the scenes, like overhauling tools and making sure the economy is healthy. Yes weapons are also being worked on, and I totally understand your concern about the server. Yet I won't evade the justice system and hire people who clearly abused a lot. That would seem unfair for everyone who was hurt by his actions and who knows the specifics. I won't share what excactly happened to whom and why, but I have my reasons to keep them away. That doesn't mean that weapons will fail, others need to learn how to work on them too. We can't just rely ourselves on one single person.

And to answer your other question. Why am I Manager? I honestly don't know. Maybe it is because I am a dedicated Developer that still has a lot to learn. Or it is because I have experiencing on uniting teams and leading them. Honestly not a clue. And it doesn't matter. The only thing that does matter is to make iZone a place again, which people can enjoy^^

And I know a lot of you are like "New Management, why isn't anything happening". Changes take time, and especially Quality does. Things are being worked on piece by piece. We have some awesome stuff coming up!

Edit: Didn't see the Nikki Question. Nikki is ZPA, because she has experience in dealing with people and how to train them. In addition she has experiences on how much punishment is fitting, and how much is enough. She is like me a Delterian Staff and will only stay on Zone as long as all of us stay there. Her main goal is to get Gold (who is still ZPA) better at his job. She is helping out with the recruiting and has been working day and night to support the players in their every need. She also has been a big help in answering the support emails for Zone.

^^^ the best thing to do in my opinion is to set the staff team back to were it was originally with all the positions, just get rid of the ones who not doing there job (it's kinda weird to not have a weapon admin since era and west has one and they are specifically doing Somthing to the weapon system Wich normally improves it) (I keep going back to Geno forgive me but when he updated guns and weapons they happen pretty fast) and chelterrar don't get me wrong your a developer and they are important but don't try an change the position of people it's in a way wronge to come out of the blue and get rid of him a player who has been on zone for a very long time just trying to make the server keep going along with new enhancements to weapons and ect, he kept zone pushing when the VIP was just 2 very poorly made hats *just my whole opinion on that sorry if it affends u in any way possible*

Wow. What a load a crap Chelt.

You're talking about trying to do whats best for the staff team, but was so quick to jump on board with carlito in removing my position and then again in my firing, both of which happened when i tried to help out you ungrateful dummies. This all happened when a gani member needed work and was arguing with carlito and to help both of them out i told carlito id assign him stuff, then carlitos response was to just remove my position and trying to make some bs excuse about why he did so, and after other staff tried to tell him to not do that because i was needed for that position, you quickly got on rc and just did it, didn't even try to see why it all went down and just went on a power trip with carlito. Then when i got fired for disagreeing with carlito, you did the same exact thing. If you and carlito weren't so bent on showing your power you wouldve taken the time to realize that removing the person who has the most overall general knowledge of zone out of everyone on the server, and had a ton of things ready to be added to zone, probably isnt a good idea, especially when it was done out of spite and done because i tried to do my job, thats all it was, doing my job and doing nothing wrong to anyone. Then yall expected me to do the job as a zp? Yall had to be on a serious power roid rage to think id still do the job after that. I was actually planning to train people on the position after my initial updates we're all done but thats not gonna happen and i still remain the only person with knowledge you or carlto would never figure out on your own. Then youre talking about getting people from other servers to help, how is that going to work if they don't know the game throughout? In regards to anything that had to do with me, your actions have nothing to do with improvment, its been about control the whole time and still is. Then as a manager, you are not qualified in anyway for the job, only reason you got it is because carlito decided to box out all the zonw staff and make delt staff takeover, you were donated the position. You don't know how to script well enough, you don't know the game well enough, and you are so full of crap as a person. You try to act like youre a trustworthy person, but you conatantly talk crap behind others back, you plot against others, you spread rumors like saying i gave guns to my friends, and then try to act like i really did give gun and not hire me back due to that reason because you're on another one of your power trips. Then you get on here and start making all these bs promises yet i know what yall had planned, its been the same stuff yall been working on for months and not released and are falling far behind on, and a lot of it either needed to wait or be scrapped completely due to it being a bad idea. You are so power hungry yet full of crap i honestly don't believe you have any intention of leaving when carlito does, that way you're not in his shadow anymore and won't feel the need to butt kiss him any further. This whole ordeal with you and carlito has been about control, and i do have proof for everything i said above.

And to answer about nikki, same thing, given a postion and powers she didn't deserve at the time, but unlike chelt she actually has been putting them to good use, so credit to her for that.

Okay Geno chill we know you had great things for zone but that idiot fired you. But I have a question did he actually pay you with money to help fix this game or did he pay you with in game incentives that mean nothing in real life. If so now maybe you could get hired for another server that has more potential than zone and you actually get reward and thanked for you efforts. So all I'm saying is that maybe zone isn't the right place for you maybe it's a different game or server were you will be accepted as a developer.

Geno doesn't want to be a developer for the sake of being a developer but for the sake of Zone. i think sorry if im wrong
Just like most of us here.

I don't think Chelterrar is the best manager, but he is the only one we can have right now. When the gmap with the new tileset is done, we get a staff that actually plays Zone as manager and we will be hopefully back in harmony.

The difference between Chelterrar and Carlito is that Chelterrar wants to change Zone into Zlassic or anything else that isn't Zone. Carlito wants to add new content for player interaction and successfully does it. I won't leak it, but Carlito's project is a great thing that everyone should be looking forward to.

Don't get it wrong, I am happy that Chelterrar is our manager. He is doing his best in his own way and I am happy about that :)

Issue with carlitos project tho is that things need to been done way before its release, idk how the thing will be in the end, but it has to be done right and cant be on a bad foundation

I'm bored of hearing the excuses, its like classic's hope for actually updates(quests n stuff people actually wanted) all over again. Off hearing from a high staff at zone(who's liked) apparently it's not even looking likely we will have new tileset that was nearly made -_-and the projects being worked on I doubt will make game any appealing unless appearance changes.


On a sidenote idk when that space mission -spaceships was brought out but this is kinda what I expect from zone(Ok does need improvements like npc's are walking bwt in space-and could do with little radar or pointer showing where stuff is-but overall its good to work with) P.S. Tell Carlito guy to make solo player leaderboard for showdown + make more maps etc for it...Said this idea again and again it will make zone slightly more enjoyable (showdown is only thing I've really liked on zone)

I always wanted more maps etc..
however a common theme i see with zone is lots of good ideas are never used, just like this. Just gotta wait i guess.

I might not know Chelterrar well, but I can 100% put a word that you are blind for calling him a idiot. No this isn't me kissing ass or anything. He maybe from another server, but he does know what he is doing. Our staff team doesn't fire without proof. Zone patrol rules also follow as firing staffs.
Geno ****ed up and he has to accept it. He knows what he did and everything logs, don't say he's a lying son of a gun because he isn't.

Nikki is actually a goos Zpa even if she got the spot a bit unfair.
She isn't staying on the server so she isn't something you could bring up.
Carlito is here to help then go. Chelt can't really stay as manager when
Carlito leave because unixmad won't allow it. Unixmad allowed this action
so it's something we have to respect even if it's a bit stupid or what ever it can become. I can flip and drop bombs about anything, but i'm just going with what I see as a staff member.

#Zone101

John, i got fired because i disagreed with a plan to purposely make zone pay2win, and i wasn't the only person who got fired for this reason at the time also.

Idk what theyre telling you about me but its not the story that actually went down

Telling and showing is different.

This has nothing to do with Geno being fired or Chelt/Carlito, but *cough* Tash did fire the entire ZP team without reason.

Idk why people are already criticizing Chelt & the other Delteria staff when there hasn't been near enough time to judge how well they're doing. I'm optimistic because at least something's being attempted to improve the server. By the time Alex became manager, him and FR were both pretty inactive, so there was no management involvement. Now we have active staff who are here temporarily to try to fix this server. Everyone criticizing and attacking the new temporary staff need to calm down and give them time. You don't have to like everything they do, but you shouldn't be criticizing them before anything is finished and presented. I'd rather take a chance with someone who I know is at least doing something, rather than continue getting nothing done like Zone has been for a while now.

Tash isn't Manager anymore.
New Manager = new rules.

That's why I said it had nothing to do with the staff right now, but staff have been fired without reason. It's OK though, that's just me continuing to express how jacked up iZone has been in the past.

The past was really crazy to be honest.

John, there were other staff there so they know what went down as well, so you and chelt need to stop spreading these lies around

Why is there a delt staff even manager on this game that's way different, with different standerds and rules ect (idk never played delt so idk the game way of it)
Btw john how long have u been serving zone? As a staff

I haven't really said any lies, other then that 1 bogus statement Saying I could start a clash.

1 year

Ok now youre just being dumb, you accuse me of getting fired for giving items, yet a zp and i both got fired at the same time for the same reason, and if zp can't give items, then that rules out giving items as the reason i got fired, use your brain and stop spreading lies. Yall just get more and more ridiculous as this thread goes along, yall are the reason we're making threads like this, yall are full of crap.

Can you read?
Read what i said unless you don't get the message.
Don't be despicable, where you are now is where I've been before.
It's just stupid Logic.

Whatever you were trying to say, you didnt make clear. But back on topic, we don't need any of the delt staff here, we just needed a better manager, one from zone

I see the sky base got updated

Yeah and theres are already a rant on that

Delteria staff on Zone, think of it this way.

Would you want a Russian or Chinese man being the US President? No!


Then again, it's unfortunately not for us to decide who is manager, but Unixmad :|

It's not really like that... Really it's up to how good of a job they do, and how much you like them. They didn't come to Zone to ruin it so all the players would move to Delteria. They're actually here to help. With all this immediate backlash and lack of cooperation before any real judgement can be made on them, I'd actually give them props for handling it well.

This is now directed to everyone: I get that some might think that they don't know what changes Zone needs, but neither has Zone's past management. It's not like they're without currenr Zone staff to assist with decision/idea making. Updates are going to take time. You're not going to see a new and improved server in 2 weeks. That means they will be here for months to come, probably. That means I don't want to see nonstop bashing and premature outrage posts for another 4 months. Get pissed at them when they change every image into a trolled face. Get pissed at them when they make every gun do 1 damage. But don't get pissed at them for no goddamn reason. I see people saying Gemini was actually improved in the recent update, yet there's still nonstop bashing to them for not making it perfect on the first try. Of course, that implies with your ideas that it's going to be perfect (which it won't be). I would actually think Delteria staff would be more open to your ideas, more than any other management has ever been. That would be because they don't actually know the server as well. Instead of bashing them, you could actually make an effort to improve the server with them. Well there's my rant about how tired I am of these bull**** attacks on them from the moment they came, when you haven't even seen them perform yet.

But how? Mostly every single person who has posted on this thread (and other threads) genuinely wants to help the team build Zone up. But there's practically no way to do that currently. Really, the only thing people can do is bash them for not doing what they wanted. That's the only way to effectively get their point across - provide negative (and positive!!) feedback to what the team produces/conveys/informs/etc. Their feedback needs to have an impact to really get through to the staff team :(

That being said, I agree that the criticism has gotten out of hand.

I think I posted in this thread, and I don't want to help Zone do anything.

Critique is different from bashing. Some people have been critiquing, although, it may still be prematurely, but others have been straight up bashing them. No one wants to listen to someone who only trash talks to them. I 100% agree that it has been very difficult in the past to get ideas or development through management, but we have brand new management right now who may be very willing to listen to and incorporate others' ideas. I just think it's all premature because people don't like that they're from a different server. Even bashing is fine, as long as it's backed up, but I don't really see how there has been enough time or even anything changes that would result in bashing the new management. Really, though, if people want to criticize, it's fine, but I'd much rather see their suggestions along with it, which most people who have been bashing them haven't done. I agree with what you said, but there is new management and there hasn't been enough time to come to any conclusion yet.

Nearly a month on..updates are looking as dead as ever. If several are being worked on, I would expect at least 1release in this time yet still nothing, whether it be a big restock of zonecoin shop/Solo leaderboard for showdown/maps for showdown/Tileset/simple shop update/better level system(expanded)/or something completely different.


Give you two more weeks. Show this worth or you've failed us all.

Only thing that has been released on the news in a months time was just a revelled start area, which looks just like one of the older maps.
I totally agree with you Fatal on this, they really need to show something because Chelterrar's statement of "work" being done is not really being shown at the moment.

I understand it might be hard or lack of staff working on a certain project, but come on, something at least has to be finished within a month.

Hopefully they add something like spar leaderboard as well as Showdown leaderboard/maps and as well as spar reward room. As they have pk and bs rooms but no spar room, either add spar rewards or remove all,hopefully the first option.

Tbh I'm pretty satisfied with what the levels team have been coming up. (I like the start even though it uses the old building.)

We have managers that have no extensive knowledge of the game, you can't expect any kind of progress to happen, at this point its best to just sit back and see what happens and criticize accordingly. Yall are expecting things from people who constantly lie and aren't even qualified for their position, in this case Chelt. Aside from the lack of knowledge regarding what needs to be done, it also has to be done correctly, which is much more crucial.

If we add a spar leaderboard before we balance the weapons out, it would simply mess up. We are working balancing the weapons and adding new features, and as soon as we tested that and there aren't any to overpowered weapons we can actually think about adding a spar leaderboard.

About Spar rewards, they are on our to-do list, but certainly not high priority, since we wanna focus on actual content first :)

I constantly lie? Where, please show me were I lied :P

And you have not a clue about me, yet you say I am not qualified for the job. Of course I can't script as good as maybe FP4 can or can do graphics as good as JesterTheCats, but I know what needs to be adressed. And I actually read Graalians, ask players to send in feedback and I read that. I read suggestions and I know how to bring more fun to Zone. Of course we could rush everything out, but actual Quality takes time.

So you want a zonecoin restock, the zonecoin market is flooded. Everyone has thousands over thousands. So if we add a zonecoin shop they will enjoy the new items for a few days, maybe even a week. But then everyone will be bored again.

I talked about the leaderboards a bit further up. About showdown tileset, yea because it is really easy to make a high Quality tileset fast, thats why we have so many new ones. Like I said before, Quality takes time, or we end one like with a tileset that looks as bad as the current one.

A level system needs ideas and missions to work around, and that is not designed in a day. Especially not in a game where 98% of the Staff is not paid and only doing it for fun.

We are coming up with things that have never been done before on Graal, yet they take time.

More bs as usual

I remember this line.. wasn't it from those Delteria guys??

Really just fix the current systems first. Zone has plenty of content to maintain interest and gain more players. It's just not utilized correctly. Missions are a great example of a complete utter waste of something with very high potential. There's no reason to gain levels. There's no daily challenge or anything like that. Missions are a ZC boosting activity, and that's it. No need to work heavily on new stuff when things like this need redone first.

So how about trash talking the whole Damn time and being angry about being fired. How about actually bringing forth proof of how bad and horrible I actually am. You said I lie. Yet you bring forth nothing ^_^



I'm on vacation right now. Which means I can't be on 24/7. But if you want you can pm me your ideas or make a thread. I'll be glad to read some productive ideas and give feedback on them

Im not angry about being fired lol, its the reason i got fired (plus other things) why i know youre completely full of crap, and then youre on here lying about it yet YOU WERE THERE. Going around telling people i got fired for giving out items, yet a zp also got fired with me for the same reason and zp can't give things out, so I clearly didn't get fired for that reason, and thats one of the many things, some i cant say cuz it involves others im not gonna risk throwing under the bus since you and carlito have random power trips, but at this point its well established that youre an unqualified, lying p.o.s. manager we would do far better without. But do as you wish, when you leave we'll dig up the corpse of this game and find some miracle way to revive it.

there's only one answer. logs.

I normally don't do this. But if you want I can dig up the logs of you adding yourself stuff. Not others. I can do that as soon as I'm home :P

Yet you still didn't give any examples or anything at all where I lied,etc