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Yog 05-08-2017 04:04 AM

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Posted by Alpho (Post 781006)
I appreciate all of your ideas. These were strictly just for me and giving me ideas on what I could makenext for the community and on GraalOnline. I hope some of you other developers can pick from this thread and create some excellent new content.

Did any of you expect anything but an anti-climax?

Brick 05-08-2017 08:13 AM

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Posted by Alpho (Post 781006)
I appreciate all of your ideas. These were strictly just for me and giving me ideas on what I could makenext for the community and on GraalOnline. I hope some of you other developers can pick from this thread and create some excellent new content.

Has management for the server you were working on shifted to somebody else, or has development stopped altogether? I was really looking forward to seeing what you were making.

G Fatal 05-08-2017 08:26 AM

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Posted by Brick (Post 781029)
Has management for the server you were working on shifted to somebody else, or has development stopped altogether? I was really looking forward to seeing what you were making.

He said he completed everything he was assigned to doing on graal, idk who will fill in role now gone though.

G Fatal 05-17-2017 05:29 PM

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Posted by UnstickMe (Post 781988)
Rumours say Stefan is already working on a successor of Avalonia Online

Hardly rumours, also it's Nico's game theres also another one era like(but that'll possibly be well off release)Also you'll likely get censored out for saying anything of the sort here - Even in gaming section that says you can gets censored. Hi Colin. Funny how it isn't censored the otherway round. @Game in comment I wouldn't be too excited for it as everything is very basic tool wise there although the graphic quality etc will be good..can't comment gamewise but surmise it'll be very similar.

@thread this is just going to become one of them places we all go back to and bump in the hope that graal gets better. lol.

Thallen 05-18-2017 01:12 AM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 782025)
@thread this is just going to become one of them places we all go back to and bump in the hope that graal gets better

iClassic is its all-time lowest state is better than the game you're talking about by tenfold. That game is absolutely horrible in every way imaginable. People don't play it not because it's "censored," but because it's unplayable.

G Fatal 05-18-2017 03:46 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 782088)
iClassic is its all-time lowest state is better than the game you're talking about by tenfold. That game is absolutely horrible in every way imaginable. People don't play it not because it's "censored," but because it's unplayable.

Never said they didn't play because censored? ..Also said it's very basic dev wise etc. Do you read? @quoted bit, still stands whether the game is better than others or not, sucks that we ain't getting updates on anything new that was announced to be in the making.

G Fatal 05-27-2017 07:19 PM

*bump*
Any news on Worlds Ios or Graal3D? @hape.. still in production/anything actually happening soon?+ Why was worlds thread closed?

Thor 05-27-2017 09:12 PM

I still believe that they are dropping support for what are currently called PlayerWorlds, and will eventually be referring to the current mobile servers as PlayerWorlds for the final part of the cover up. They'll be able to say "See we told you we'll have PlayerWorlds on mobile" when it will actually be a re-branding of mobile Graal and a culling of PC Graal.

If I am wrong, then why is current PC Graal still being treated as if it doesn't exist? Why is there no designated support staff for it? Why is someone who was recently jailed for domestic abuse still listed as the PWA Chief? Why is the website still using the winter theme and displaying out of date information from 10 years ago? Why are people offering to help the platform being either ignored or banned? This doesn't look like a platform that they plan on promoting any time soon.

Red 05-27-2017 10:06 PM

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Posted by Thor (Post 783832)
I still believe that they are dropping support for what are currently called PlayerWorlds, and will eventually be referring to the current mobile servers as PlayerWorlds for the final part of the cover up. They'll be able to say "See we told you we'll have PlayerWorlds on mobile" when it will actually be a re-branding of mobile Graal and a culling of PC Graal.

If I am wrong, then why is current PC Graal still being treated as if it doesn't exist? Why is there no designated support staff for it? Why is someone who was recently jailed for domestic abuse still listed as the PWA Chief? Why is the website still using the winter theme and displaying out of date information from 10 years ago? Why are people offering to help the platform being either ignored or banned? This doesn't look like a platform that they plan on promoting any time soon.

No **** they dropped support for client graal years ago, when will you learn that they don't care about anybody who plays via client graal

Thor 05-27-2017 10:09 PM

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Posted by Red (Post 783842)
No **** they dropped support for client graal years ago, when will you learn that they don't care about anybody who plays via client graal

You're preaching to the choir.

TomatoPanda 05-27-2017 10:15 PM

I feel like a steampunk server would bring many possiblities.

Red 05-27-2017 10:47 PM

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Posted by Thor (Post 783846)
You're preaching to the choir.

How else do you want me to reply dude, lol.

The fact is: you need to adapt to the iGraal way of things or be left with an outdated client that compared to the population of the iGraal servers is nothing of value to unixmad or toonslab.

Thor 05-27-2017 11:20 PM

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Posted by Red (Post 783853)
How else do you want me to reply dude, lol.

The fact is: you need to adapt to the iGraal way of things or be left with an outdated client that compared to the population of the iGraal servers is nothing of value to unixmad or toonslab.

In the 7.5 years since mobile Graal took off, there hasn't been a single mobile server launched which didn't begin as an official project of Graal Online itself. The idea that community developers can create their own server and launch it on mobile is a myth.

As for myself, you do realise that the server I represent is the original branch of Classic? It has never been an option for us to "Adapt to the iGraal way of things" and this would have been no different had we actively pursued it. We have repeatedly been told "we would like your work on mobile", but also that it can't be Classic and that we'd have to use different levels and tileset. This effectively means we'd have to make an entirely new server, and if I had the motivation to do that I'd be better off leaving Graal and creating my own game instead.

The reason PC Graal is of no value to Unixmad/Toonslab is through self-fulfilled prophecy. For the last 8 years it has been treated as if it is worthless, and so it has become worthless. The last time a serious effort was made with it was back when they launched the V5 client in 2007. This launch was a total disaster which would go on to have devastating consequences for the game, but at least it was an effort. The flaws still could have been rectified and the game could have been set on the path of recovery.

Despite all the negativity, I still believe that due to the whole development aspect of Graal, the PC client -could- be a gold mine.

Ethacon 05-28-2017 04:07 AM

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Posted by Thor (Post 783869)
In the 7.5 years since mobile Graal took off, there hasn't been a single mobile server launched which didn't begin as an official project of Graal Online itself. The idea that community developers can create their own server and launch it on mobile is a myth.

As for myself, you do realise that the server I represent is the original branch of Classic? It has never been an option for us to "Adapt to the iGraal way of things" and this would have been no different had we actively pursued it. We have repeatedly been told "we would like your work on mobile", but also that it can't be Classic and that we'd have to use different levels and tileset. This effectively means we'd have to make an entirely new server, and if I had the motivation to do that I'd be better off leaving Graal and creating my own game instead.

The reason PC Graal is of no value to Unixmad/Toonslab is through self-fulfilled prophecy. For the last 8 years it has been treated as if it is worthless, and so it has become worthless. The last time a serious effort was made with it was back when they launched the V5 client in 2007. This launch was a total disaster which would go on to have devastating consequences for the game, but at least it was an effort. The flaws still could have been rectified and the game could have been set on the path of recovery.

Despite all the negativity, I still believe that due to the whole development aspect of Graal, the PC client -could- be a gold mine.

There are so many young developers on pc graal that it has so much potential yet all Unixmad cares about is gaining money from people buying servers in an attempt to develop good content, they end up underestimating the amount of time they have to develop the server and the server ends up shut down and dead, and forgotten (that is if the server was even known about).

He doesn't realize he could make so much more by actually getting involved with some of the playerworlds.

Eugeen 05-28-2017 04:38 AM

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Posted by ethacon (Post 783964)
There are so many young developers on pc graal that it has so much potential yet all Unixmad cares about is gaining money from people buying servers in an attempt to develop good content, they end up underestimating the amount of time they have to develop the server and the server ends up shut down and dead, and forgotten (that is if the server was even known about).

He doesn't realize he could make so much more by actually getting involved with some of the playerworlds.

The only promising server has been Maloria though lol


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