No.. Just no.

It isn't really a gun skin(doesn't have to look/take shape of gun you choose) -It just takes the stats of that gun (and bullets/look can be changed)

****ing mess. That's what Zone gets for catering toward greedy, prize-obsessed basers. I've always said we need less rewards, not more. Now they have unnecessary issues like this. It's Zone's own fault.

I don't think he understands what the term skin means...
Firstly, I'd like to point out that the rippers has the best DPS as of right now, then secondly, I'd like to point out that when they say "skin" it's not like a sabre skin. It wouldn't have to fit the mold of the rippers.



Na. 20. Obs was first(and only). They get special treatment because they did it. Not only that, they did it at least 4 years before anyone else. They also got stuff taken away from them. Or should I say stuff being taken? As in currently... #WhereDemHideoutAt

Event guns should be allowed since theyre actually easier to get than the rippers are, and theyre bigger so we can do more with them. And theyre always publicly available. And the store guns arent that amazing since the best two are pistols. And and as stated, a melee should be part of the prize too

Dps doesnt even matter right now due to that reset.

dps always matters^^

No melee geno.

Or imma become salty NAL 5K me who got the hat and then lost it because I forgot the email I used on the noob account I wanted it on. NO. ONE REWARD ONLY. #K

Melee k

The reward is not based on how you want it, nor the playersso skt gtfo this 'i don't want this so no one should get it' mind set , only the manager chooses, with help/views of other people.

I understand why not event guns, because the event shop was/might be changed or new things added and old items taken away, meaning rail/alien are not obtainable no more.
However also agree that the shop guns suck, rippers are the best shop gun but suck compared to rail and alien. Maybe you should add more shop guns that are good?? which I'm pretty sure geno was going to add or something similar.

Honestly, the event shop needs to be closed and converted to shop items, the whole zc system is ruined beyond repair and the things like the railgun are too easy to get, make them all shop items and it becomes a thing to work for like it was supposed to be. But as of now, the event guns don't fall under any special category anymore since zc are tradable and easy to get, 600zc is pocket change at the tables now. They should be allowed and hopefully soon changed to a shop gun. And yes, i was about to release two gun shops actually (one that was near finished and the other was a planned for way later) but didn't get to complete that because i got fired. Also while on this, we really needed a new shop because due to how these guns were released, and trading contributed to this, the gun system is very flawed in terms of economic reasons and progression which was the main reason i was making the shops, and we just needed new guns too.

And there is no good reason on why a melee shouldn't be part of the prize, there is only gain in allowing this since itll motivate players and keep them active

See you say that right. But here's what I see- No more 1K hat chasers. Now everyone's going for 5K! But it's not just that! It's the same 25 people. Over and Over. and Over.

At least with 1K people would take breaks and new squads fight for those bases, and sometimes they even come out victorious and nobody touches em even after the "pr0s" come back.

Bases are already being dominated enough by certain squads due to continous support. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. Loyalty is great.

But we shouldn't try to make more reason for why people should get 5K. A gun as it is, is already kind of too low for 5K.

Idk, Pig will come one here and explain why there should be less prizes. Listen to him k. He's great at having the same beliefs I have but getting more support for it;)

Agree/disagree,Agree because there is so much zcoins in circulation that even if they had big restocks the stuff would need to be all from like 2k - 20k zcoins for each item to get the zcoins more out of the mix even then I'm not sure it would as there is soo many that get traded about for hats etc some even being like 1k zc (that I find ridiculous)
Disagree because they could just relimit on how many zc they can get each day or something(Or maybe just redo-like give all zonians $$$ for there zc-maybe old zc shop become normal shop and then restart again, SO it's more monitored and doesn't get out hand-thats pretty much reason they messed up here they never knew how much players were getting and never restocked like seasonally.

I don't see why the admems don't just PM certain pr0s to give up like 40KZc in exchange for a hot weapon. People go nuts and bolts for ZC auctions, they like the rarity factor. Give em that.


Or maybe throw out a huge ZC auction and den (in advanced so people dont whine) tell them that auction items aren't tradable anymore.



because i know for a fact that 80% of graalians would rather have ZC and not gralats. unless its like 100 gralats per zc.




Yo this thread is so off topic... y u no make otter threads

Skt, 5k hrs for a purely cosmetic edition of a gun the whole team most likely has, that offers no buffs or procs, and is possibly situational depending on the chosen gun, is crap. A gun skin for 1k is a crappy prize. A gun skin is a crappy prize. If i were to lead my squad to 5k, id choose the railgun or rippers because that's what most of my squad uses, but the issue with that is they already look nice, 5k hours for a slightly better looking gun (or melee) is not worth it. Also, youre way more limited to what you can do, at least with a hat it can be a gasmask/beanie/hood/A BOX, you have so much freedom with that, the gun skin limits you too much. At least a hideout was worth it all. And about the whole "5k after 5k" statement, people didnt even do that for the hideout, its sure not gonna start on a gun/melee skin.

@g fatal, the zc system is unrepairable, it needs to be scrapped

Alright, can someone from Zone management (Chelt) answer what your current Developmental priorities you have?

you can do a lot with the rail limitations. I've told Vox to make me a giant dinosaur head gun when I was on era. I even had him make a fancy ***** gun. I even showed it to le team. Nobody wanted it in. Their loss.

In fact I reckon you could do a lot more with a gun since theres more sides and the bullets would be fun to do... JS but Decemeber hit me up. I'll make you a nice walmart bag gun which shoots out random goodies. Lit.

PS- gun skins are beneficial. since even when the original is sabre reflect, skins aren't. Also, don't even tell me that a gun is more useless than a hat.


(Imo people didn't base for the hide out. Well acc did. But Darko based cus they wanted to get 5K before another certain squad started up and they thought that they'd never get hours afterwards)