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Sicx 09-22-2014 12:25 PM

I like how even wikis can start into flame wars

Fire Surge 09-22-2014 08:47 PM

Sorry but I refuse to work on a wiki that says "Current Admins: MannedTooth" on the front. It looks unprofessional and also looks like you're basking in the "fame".

Manned Tooth 09-22-2014 09:50 PM

I have to mention that I wasn't the one to add this line, it was iNestea, beside, it just help people to contact me if they need help.

Dawn 09-23-2014 01:25 AM

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Posted by Manned Tooth (Post 507915)
I have to mention that I wasn't the one to add this line, it was iNestea, beside, it just help people to contact me if they need help.

Then list people who helped the wiki

Kendama 09-23-2014 03:10 AM

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Posted by Dawn (Post 507946)
Then list people who helped the wiki

no.

Wiki should have no names representing those who work on it.

That is not how the system is designed.

That should only be available in editing/blog/comment sections which are aside from the actual main wiki pages

Dawn 09-23-2014 03:17 AM

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Posted by Fire Surge (Post 507901)
Sorry but I refuse to work on a wiki that says "Current Admins: MannedTooth" on the front. It looks unprofessional and also looks like you're basking in the "fame".

Change it them. its a wiki.Anyone can change it.

Narcosis 09-23-2014 04:46 AM

I'm wondering who it was who deleted so many pages. Was that you, MannedTooth? Or am I missing something? Because it's not just the lists that are gone, there's also a number of pages that were removed (I saw right away that there were a lot of mount pages that disappeared). I think the layout was fine before. I don't blame Nestea for leaving if you deleted that many of his additions. Personally, I don't like the direction this wiki is heading in. Why was the guild list removed? And all the lists weren't "useless". Having the full lists gave people a chance to fill in the dead links with pages for those mounts/morphs/whatever. I liked it at first, now I'm lost. Why is there a "Players" category? You've gotta be pretty narcissistic to add yourself to that. Or is it just meant to be for famous, well-known players?

Mannedtooth, I think you're missing the point of a wiki. It's supposed to be the combined effort of lots of different player contributions. Having one moderator making virtually all the decisions sort of defeats the purpose.

This is just my opinion. I'm sorry if any of what I've said is incorrect.

iNesteaGraal 09-23-2014 06:18 AM

Quote:

Posted by Fire Surge (Post 507901)
Sorry but I refuse to work on a wiki that says "Current Admins: MannedTooth" on the front. It looks unprofessional and also looks like you're basking in the "fame".

that's what i said...



Quote:

Posted by Dawn (Post 507946)
Then list people who helped the wiki

I made a list with top 10 workers on that wiki, got deleted.


also when i copied some stuff like the awesome bug hunting catalog, or great wiki pages about the different towers, i didn't just steal them, i added a link to the graalianspost and gave the creator of that page some credits, then came MannedTooth and deleted the credit part, like he made that all by himself...
And like this it's not fun to work there..

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Posted by Narcosis (Post 507977)
I'm wondering who it was who deleted so many pages. Was that you, MannedTooth? Or am I missing something? Because it's not just the lists that are gone, there's also a number of pages that were removed (I saw right away that there were a lot of mount pages that disappeared). I think the layout was fine before. I don't blame Nestea for leaving if you deleted that many of his additions. Personally, I don't like the direction this wiki is heading in. Why was the guild list removed? And all the lists weren't "useless". Having the full lists gave people a chance to fill in the dead links with pages for those mounts/morphs/whatever. I liked it at first, now I'm lost. Why is there a "Players" category? You've gotta be pretty narcissistic to add yourself to that. Or is it just meant to be for famous, well-known players?

Mannedtooth, I think you're missing the point of a wiki. It's supposed to be the combined effort of lots of different player contributions. Having one moderator making virtually all the decisions sort of defeats the purpose.

This is just my opinion. I'm sorry if any of what I've said is incorrect.


That's the point i stopped, he said we don't need a list of Guilds or Players but they are a bit part of a game. so I worked many hrs to get some great guilds and player names toghetter, after i checked out the page later, everything was deleted. on the page players, the only name out of 200-300 names was Manned Tooth, i was like WTF is going on here.

Also the Morph list we got from dusty. There were like 100 Morphs (All current morphs on graal) i added them to the post and some times later like 75% were deleted agin.


so i don't see the point anymore to work on a page that most of your content got deleted or replaced with worser stuff. :\

Manned Tooth 09-23-2014 11:22 AM

Okay I don't know if I'll ever be able to make you understand the fact that, actually, I deleted nothing, the guild page is still there, so is the players, the mounts and the morphs ones.
ALL I DID was replacing the list full of dead links by a automatic list that adds up every one.

The best way to show it to you is to make you test it:
Create a page, whatever the type, a mount, a guild, a morph, but it would be simpler to do a player for testing.
Click ''Contribute'' then ''Add a Page'', name it with your In-Game Name and then add up the template ''Infobox Player'' and fill that up, now you can add description to your page, you can do whatever, it's yours ^~^.

Anyway, when all that's done, look down for ''Categories'' add up ''Players''. then after saving it, browser to the players page (accessible from the menu) and you'll see, magic, your name/page was added to the list! regrouping all existing pages of this type.

What I meant to say is that I didn't deleted pages for fun. Technically nothing was lost because of the fact that mounts that were already added are still up, in the list, and dead links are gone. Whenever a mount will be added to the ''Mounts'' category, the mounts page will be updated, it makes it clearer. In fact, take a look around, that's all other wikis works too, categorization helps you a lot.

And for the part where I deleted source links from guides, I just thought this wasn't necessary because we didn't needed to know who created that from another website, we need the information, that,s all. But then I realized you were right, links, sources and credit are very important. I apologize for doing this bad move.

Fire Surge 09-23-2014 09:33 PM

This is one of the best made wikias, ever: http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/RuneScape_Wiki

This is what you should be basing yours off of.

Kendama 09-23-2014 11:45 PM

Quote:

Posted by iNesteaGraal (Post 507985)
that's what i said...





I made a list with top 10 workers on that wiki, got deleted.


also when i copied some stuff like the awesome bug hunting catalog, or great wiki pages about the different towers, i didn't just steal them, i added a link to the graalianspost and gave the creator of that page some credits, then came MannedTooth and deleted the credit part, like he made that all by himself...
And like this it's not fun to work there..




That's the point i stopped, he said we don't need a list of Guilds or Players but they are a bit part of a game. so I worked many hrs to get some great guilds and player names toghetter, after i checked out the page later, everything was deleted. on the page players, the only name out of 200-300 names was Manned Tooth, i was like WTF is going on here.

Also the Morph list we got from dusty. There were like 100 Morphs (All current morphs on graal) i added them to the post and some times later like 75% were deleted agin.


so i don't see the point anymore to work on a page that most of your content got deleted or replaced with worser stuff. :\

Chill, this is drama that nobody cares about

Quote:

Posted by Manned Tooth (Post 507994)
Okay I don't know if I'll ever be able to make you understand the fact that, actually, I deleted nothing, the guild page is still there, so is the players, the mounts and the morphs ones.
ALL I DID was replacing the list full of dead links by a automatic list that adds up every one.

The best way to show it to you is to make you test it:
Create a page, whatever the type, a mount, a guild, a morph, but it would be simpler to do a player for testing.
Click ''Contribute'' then ''Add a Page'', name it with your In-Game Name and then add up the template ''Infobox Player'' and fill that up, now you can add description to your page, you can do whatever, it's yours ^~^.

Anyway, when all that's done, look down for ''Categories'' add up ''Players''. then after saving it, browser to the players page (accessible from the menu) and you'll see, magic, your name/page was added to the list! regrouping all existing pages of this type.

What I meant to say is that I didn't deleted pages for fun. Technically nothing was lost because of the fact that mounts that were already added are still up, in the list, and dead links are gone. Whenever a mount will be added to the ''Mounts'' category, the mounts page will be updated, it makes it clearer. In fact, take a look around, that's all other wikis works too, categorization helps you a lot.

And for the part where I deleted source links from guides, I just thought this wasn't necessary because we didn't needed to know who created that from another website, we need the information, that,s all. But then I realized you were right, links, sources and credit are very important. I apologize for doing this bad move.

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Manned Tooth 09-23-2014 11:57 PM

Kendama, I know this is a long story that leads no where but all I want to prove is that I never had and never will have bad intentions towards the wiki or anyone.

iNate Cons 09-24-2014 09:57 PM

hello I started playing classic a long time yes im noob on classic but pro on era u know u wont hire me cus im noob bye

Craftz 09-24-2014 11:10 PM

Quote:

Posted by iNate Cons (Post 508256)
hello I started playing classic a long time yes im noob on classic but pro on era u know u wont hire me cus im noob bye

What was the point of posting then?

Howl 09-24-2014 11:44 PM

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Posted by Craftz1 (Post 508272)
What was the point of posting then?

^^^


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