First of all, the problem is that it came from Magnus Family, your family (I believe you are the one with cane, just standing idly in the train station). So your reasoning of "Who else does that?" is flawed, and it kind of proves my point of your family being malignant cancer in the whole community. Dolan (former Magnus) have attempted to kick Doublelift out of GST, Regius have succeeded in kicking Doublelift out of Blivian's guild (both telling the owners of the guild to keep quiet about it in order to keep their reputation) in the past, but I have kept quiet about it, lol.

Second of all, lol, name the people that can beat Doublelift, Green, Kyu, Kaios, Leo, etc in the Magnus Family. No, really, Zearos. Magnus Family is overrated to the point that it is known for aspects that it lacks at. With the exception of 2 people (Regius and Westbrook) in your family, no one in the Magnus Family stands a chance against the people I mentioned above. And the probability of those two winning, even that, is narrow since Westbrook lost to Doublelift 10-3. Regius might have beaten Green or Kaios, but lost to Doublelift and Kyu.

I believed this military community had room to grow, but apparently, someone in the military (Muzak?) was recently caught with having alternate accounts as well? Deceptive acts are common elements in the community.

I don't think the problem is that the military guilds exist. I think the problem is that they've become one of the only types of popular organized guilds that spread out over the map. Throughout the years, there have been pk, spar, guild spar, social, tower, school, and then some more abstract ones like for playing since X, or having Y amount of whatever stat. No matter what, these guilds were always out and about doing stuff.

The pk, spar, social, and tower guilds still exist, but they now are only found in the Battle Arena, at a tower, or idling somewhere and only socializing through guild chat.
In other words, take you and your guild anywhere other than an idle spot and communicate through overworld chat.

I dont know who you are or what you associate with so let me assume you to be an unbiased audience member. A lot of people in Magnus do such deceptive crap. Only they dont associate particularly with the spar community. They hack, cheat, and try to frame the hell out of other military guilds. Military guilds amongst themselves are cancerous. Examples include: Peter Rhodes, Germain, Auel, Morzan, Muzak. I don't need to name more because Westbrook can probably finish this list.. But Valeria is now a retired military guild (now a Spar/Social Guild) with Sehzan carrying its legacy. Valeria is probably the only guild full of people that are actually legendary in spar (in comparison to military guilds) and average tier (in comparison to spar guilds). Military guilds are full of idiots that go nowhere in life and revert to graal to relieve their stress lol, and they take the game seriously by doing absolutely nothing at all; Dack Jangles Magnus(Sarovian Military) reported playing 56 hours of graal straight before sleeping or eating, etc. Valerians are the most normal people whom I've talked to and the only person that i found to be "out of the normal circle" was Bull/YonRick, who had a persona of ScarChaotic

Waffle, problem is that the adamains took away all towering and horse races and all the events. They make us pay for events which is a total ripoff lol. AND all the events suck. Additionally, the adamains did not release NGS yet so like what to do... I'm NEVER wasting time on towering where there's no reward system. Battle Arena is competitive for the GST and competition is where people want to reside, unless people are as old as contego(38 yrs). Nowhere outside of the battle arena remains any form of competition.

Imma be real I don't know most of those people outside of Doublelift and that's only from this forum so I honestly couldn't say either way.

Regarding Muzak and that ****. You're right there, lots of deception and debauchery in the community. You have Constantine literally rampantly abusing a glitch in the game that allows for him to kick everyone from a guild without having permission (which admins refuse to patch), as well as him collecting personal information on players and using it to blackmail them. Now obviously these actions are not limited to him alone, the glitch has been abused by a fair amount of people since it was made public last year. There are a lot of ****ty people in the military guilds, but I'd argue there are alot more people who are actually pretty cool, Magnus Family especially in my opinion is usually pretty honorable. I haven't heard about the Dolan/Regius **** because I don't follow sparing drama ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

How is Magnus honorable? Have they gotten a tower hat? Have they won a gst? Heck, did any single one of them achieve top 50 in spar? PKs and BKs dont count because those literally translate to no-lifers. What did Dolan/Regius do? Nothing. What did Westbrook do? Get rejected by spar community. Please stop lol. You know what you are and you even admitted it. Don't sugarcoat the facts lol

I legit have no idea what ur talking about lol... maybe this sovaede guy is the pinoy valerian who asked to join my gst tag i turned down. no idea. I dont screenshot anything let alone "threaten people", especially people who associate with dobelift, most of which i purposely avoid.

When ur brother/cousin/sister dobelift went on his temper tauntrum and started trying to expose me or whatever, I blocked him and figured I'd just ignore you/him for very good reason. You pmed me atleast 2 times a day "hey dude" and i ignored you, so i figure this is ur way of venting. Kind of sad that you guys are all going so far for my attention, but i'd appreciate it if youd back off. You also pmed me "west respond. now." when you wrote this post and PMed people "go check the forums i roasted west" so its very obvious you just want attention. Like dark, I won't respond to u anymore after this.

In fact, your brother is the only one who lies about anything since he started trying to go around giving out personal info of mine, then when someone confronted him about it he lied and said it wasn't him even though Dark (Supposed friend of dobelifts) sent me all the screenshots showing it was him.

Please stop trying to stalk me with doubelife and dark, it's legitimately really creepy. Theres a reason your brother cant get a spot on any gst team besides his own, and here it is. People have told me before that you guys sent them IP tracers because you believed they were alts. Its odd af. Get a hobby and stop bothering me.

I know who we are, I said I don't know who you are lol

I was using honorable more in the moral/ethical sense not achievements in sparring and ****.

And I'll have you know that I personally have a 0.30 w/l spar ratio

Moral/ethics dont apply to you people. Yall are no better than monsters/savages that go at each other's throats just to achieve superiority. Only this is a game and such things cant literally happen online

You dont avoid people who I associate with. You turn them into my enemies except those that are not adept at spar, or even average. I only pmed you everyday because you kept talking trash behind my back and I wanted to resolve this. You and your stupid friend Ndam used to pm me everyday as Dolan's slave "What gst are you in?" just to get me kicked off whichever gst. And yeah I said i was in Kyurosu's gst and kyurosu immediately gets a pm to kick me off due to my "lack of skill and commitment". I can't go around getting a gst without you people trying to kiss butt and in doing ruin other's people's lives with deception. It's disgusting. What Dark's doing rn i honestly dont care because everyone in the game knows that you're a reject in every aspect of life even in graal.

Well the point I was trying to make is that for the most part Magnus doesn't do that ****, while a fair portion of the people in militaries do, Magnus doesn't, and we kick people out when they do. I know you and dark have your little feud with Westbrook that derails every thread, but that's not really an accurate representation of how things are with the everyone else. So unless you have something to backup your claims you can go back to derailing this thready with you and Westbrook hate f***ing each other

Didnt bother reading ur paragraph, skimmed through it and saw more fake accusations that me and ndam (lol) were trying to get you kicked from a GST team(the gst team you own.) Your lies dont make any sense. Can't say im surprised since the 3 losers stalking me in a pixel game are the only 3 capable of such severe autism.

Dark the loser who desperately tries to date every online girl (and fails), also the loser who screenshots everyones PMs, saves them for years and obsesses over people like it's real life.

Then you have dobelift, and it's the same thing as dark, just 1000x more obsessive/cringe/******ed. Also very weird.

I play graal to have fun, my definition of fun isn't debating with you weirdos about a graal soldier or whatever. I'd keep going but I made my point. Good luck to you guys in life, if you guys keep PMing me in game about this BS or I find out you guys are trying to get more info of mine im just gonna block you guys. Won't respond to anything else, cya. Maybe theres a graal girl you haven't got rejected by yet (Doubtful) that you can bother, dark. I got things other then pixel stalkers to attend to, cya.

ban westbrook and doublelift already ffs

I am gonna go over several of these bull**** statements that you have just made. Of course, the culprit won't admit to his faults, but Seveade did not have the reason to feel or remain very threatened by whatever pms you conjured up in your room. However, for two weeks, the guy wouldn't talk to me, and actually believed those fake pms you sent him. He left the family due to those pms, although he gained the courage to say what was going on yesterday. Obviously, you have failed pretty much to split the family apart, but that was a good try, West.

Oh, you don't screenshot anything, West? How about that time you got enraged with how you lost to Doublelift 10-3, and proceeded onto logging into an ALTERNATE account in a guild called CO, called up your English friend, Hazard, and tried to record the spar you did with Doublelift? Of course, you were immensely lagging with whatever was going with you at the time. Very disappointing trying to record something on your alternate account.

Also, Westbrook, you already know well yourself the person who released the pics
onto the discord was DOLAN, your friend. I know it might be hard to accept, but over 300? or how many people in discord there are KNOWS dolan released them. Yet, you come here blaming Doublelift for something he didn't do.

I like how your reasoning works when you literally gave out your instagram id to Dolan, and several other people (not including Doublelift), and you expect them to keep it a secret.

I probably said "Hey Dude" to you? last week, or probably even two weeks before that, not even knowing that you were sending fake pms behind my back. And when I figured this out just yesterday, and told you to respond, you still backed out lol.

Dont act like you dont care. You know whats wrong with you. I have a lot of evidence against you that shows what kind of a weird person you are lol. And the gst you tried to get me kicked off of was agharta, not my own guild (Like wtf lol). You obviously target me because you believe that an enemy's enemy is your friend but that's never how it works. I may not have many people on my side but at least i didnt need to kiss butt to win gst.

I just listed three people in that family who did it. Regius said "I am sorry" to Doublelift after Blivian admitted Regius did tell him to kick Doublelift from the guild.

It is not about what only goes around in the graal military community. It is about how this cancer is affecting other aspects of the game such as guild spar, spar and towering. Why should Doublelift have been kicked by something that was unjust?

Dolan isn't a magnus anymore, this is the first I've heard of the Regius stuff and it still lacks a good bit of context imo, and the westbrook stuff I don't even know other than him and the other two randos derailing this thread with spar drama.

So are you saying just because someone is in a military they shouldn't be allowed to spar or tower? In all honesty westbrook and regius and whoever the **** else would behave exactly when they partake in spar regardless of if they had involvement in militaries or not. Without militaries you'd have more cancerous people in the spar ********** so you should appreciate them a bit more. You could have Constantine using personal info to blackmail someone to through a GST rather than just him blackmailing them to delete some random military guild.