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PigParty 04-22-2016 03:32 PM

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Posted by Yog (Post 697470)
I seriously don't get why they haven't bombed Agrabah yet. Stupid US.

I don't get it. It's not like it's unknown that people from both parties are clueless about issues. Prime example of Bernie Sanders supporters at a college:



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Posted by Coco (Post 697473)
Jesus aren't you just a violent little ball of sunshine.
can definitely tell you're a trump supporter...

I see that. And yes, yes I am. I also oppose abortion (with exceptions of health of mother, rape, and incest), I like the NSA and think their authority should be expanded to catch gangs and drug dealers. I'm in favor of torture, and I think we should use the death penalty more often (but require more evidence than non-death peanlty cases). I think we should pressure China to deal with North Korea, and threaten that we will if they don't. I also think we should have kicked Russia out of Ukraine the very day they stepped in. Lastly, I think America should be the policing country of the world, but in a sense, get paid to do it.

Coco 04-22-2016 03:34 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 697475)
I don't get it. It's not like it's unknown that people from both parties are clueless about issues.

And what of the innocent people that you would end up bombing that just happened to live nearby? There's reasons we don't just go around dropping bombs everywhere.

Foxmon 04-22-2016 03:35 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 697468)
I would have every military air vehicle up in the air, dropping bombs nonstop on known ISIS locations. I would send the entire military to surround those locations and go in after it's bombed to oblivion to get rid of the few roaches that did survive. The whole crisis can be ended in a very short amount of time. I see it as if you outnumber the opponent by such a great ratio, there won't be much of a war to begin with.

War breeds war, and you'd kill so many civilians in the progress. But sure, your logic makes a lot of sense!

PigParty 04-22-2016 03:39 PM

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Posted by Coco (Post 697476)
And what of the innocent people that you would end up bombing that just happened to live nearby? There's reasons we don't just go around dropping bombs everywhere.

They're targeted air strikes in the known locations. I mentioned sending the entire ground troop military too, they would be used for more delicate locations, with air power above to back them up. I seriously oppose what some peple want that is to literally bomb everywhere, but we know their locations mostly and know how delicate each location is. There's always innocent casualties in war, but there would be far less than if we continue letting them murder and torture innocents for many more years to come.

Colin 04-22-2016 03:41 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 695954)
I looked up satanist religion and found a very creepy looking site... But it provided information I didn't know.

Clearly he is Christian turned warmonger because of the Satanistic influence he was subjected to.

But really, I don't even think Trump would take it that far and I just feel like Pig isn't aware of the current situation enough to have realized the extent of things in the Middle-East. If that's the case, by doing what you suggested Pig you would just slaughter more innocent people than terrorists because most of their locations are civilian areas so you will just end up having to wipe out everything and actually just help the terrorist's out, if you knew that when you made that comment well rip

There are some strategic bombing spots that could be hit though, glad you clarified things and didn't mean to just bomb everyone

Yog 04-22-2016 03:42 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 697478)
but we know their locations mostly and know how delicate each location is

We also know their favourite color and food. We can bomb that too!

PigParty 04-22-2016 03:45 PM

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Posted by Guri (Post 697477)
War breeds war, and you'd kill so many civilians in the progress. But sure, your logic makes a lot of sense!

Again, everything's coordinated and planned. It's not random bombing. This is why people need to think about statements that politicians say, rather than only reading the outside layer... It makes a lot of sense too, do do relatively nothing, like we're doing right now. They're killing people all the time, and we aren't doing anything about it. As I said, ground troops would be used in an overwhelming capacity to deal with more delicate areas. You can't read just the first sentence I say and make an opinion based on that, without thinking about all the other details involved.

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Posted by Yog (Post 697480)
We also know their favourite color and food. We can bomb that too!

No point in arguing with statements like that, because they're naive. How about we all just let every terrorist group stay alive and do what they want in the middle east? Sorry, but problems take work and effort, and there's always innocents that get hurt. Obviously we won't carpet bomb them, but there's already bombings going on, and they're coordinated, we just need to increase the amount of coordinated bombings. But you seem to act like you didn't know that we're already bombing them, under Obama's administration.

Colin 04-22-2016 03:46 PM

But anyway, back to why you should all vote Hilary!!!!!!!

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/07/po...y-clinton-ufo/


THEY. ARE. REAL.

Dusty 04-22-2016 03:47 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 697481)
Again, everything's coordinated and planned. It's not random bombing.

lol

PigParty 04-22-2016 03:49 PM

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Posted by Colin (Post 697479)
Clearly he is Christian turned warmonger because of the Satanistic influence he was subjected to.

But really, I don't even think Trump would take it that far and I just feel like Pig isn't aware of the current situation enough to have realized the extent of things in the Middle-East. If that's the case, by doing what you suggested Pig you would just slaughter more innocent people than terrorists because most of their locations are civilian areas so you will just end up having to wipe out everything and actually just help the terrorist's out, if you knew that when you made that comment well rip

I'm a Christian, but I don't view politics as a Christian. Church and state are separate and I believe that highly. Hence why I favor gay marriage, favor the death penalty, etc. I know the situation pretty well. I'm more educated than most people my age when it comes to these situations. I don't know why I keep having to explain that no one's going to carpet bomb them randomly. We already do coordinated bombings, it's just not enough. I never said Trump would take it that far, because I highly doubt he would. It's just my opinion. I prefer ending the situations, rather than letting them drag out. It would be a high-intelligence operation. Again, it's not like you just play "pin the bomb on the donkey." Surprised I'd even have to explain that to people...

Yog 04-22-2016 03:50 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 697481)
No point in arguing with statements like that, because they're naive. How about we all just let every terrorist group stay alive and do what they want in the middle east? Sorry, but problems take work and effort, and there's always innocents that get hurt. Obviously we won't carpet bomb them, but there's already bombings going on, and they're coordinated, we just need to increase the amount of coordinated bombings. But you seem to act like you didn't know that we're already bombing them, under Obama's administration.

✓Misinterpret meaning of post
✓Claim it's not worth arguing about
✓Continue to argue about it

PigParty 04-22-2016 03:51 PM

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Posted by Yog (Post 697485)
✓ Misinterpret meaning of post
✓Claim it's not worth arguing about
✓Continue to argue about it

No, I argued about the intention behind the stupid statement you made. I understood the meaning of the post, and argued about the intention behind it. Obviously you misinterpreted my post.

I don't get why people can't have intelligent discussions without just taking it to the absurd route. Well, I do understand why, but it's pretty sad that people do that. It's hard to argue about topics with people who are uneducated themselves x.x I actually read articles and look into topics, while many people just see something on social media and make their opinion based on that.

Colin 04-22-2016 03:52 PM

Yes we do already do coordinated bombings (well not Canada anymore woo) but we still see more civilian casualties than terrorist ones, which is part of the decision to stop air strikes being sent from Canada

The solution is not as easy as just air striking, yah civilians will die regardless and it's a casualty of war we can't avoid but the civilian deaths to date greatly out rank the terrorist ones, so before they do more coordinated bombings they should fix the ones they already have in place

You need to look at it from both ends of the spectrum, trying to kill the terrorists has only made us the terrorists

Foxmon 04-22-2016 03:52 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 697481)
Again, everything's coordinated and planned. It's not random bombing. This is why people need to think about statements that politicians say, rather than only reading the outside layer... It makes a lot of sense too, do do relatively nothing, like we're doing right now. They're killing people all the time, and we aren't doing anything about it. As I said, ground troops would be used in an overwhelming capacity to deal with more delicate areas. You can't read just the first sentence I say and make an opinion based on that, without thinking about all the other details involved.

O, I didn't quite catch that when you wrote this:

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Posted by PigParty (Post 697468)
I would have every military air vehicle up in the air, dropping bombs nonstop on known ISIS locations. I would send the entire military to surround those locations and go in after it's bombed to oblivion to get rid of the few roaches that did survive.

but maybe I just have to read between the lines ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

PigParty 04-22-2016 03:56 PM

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Posted by Guri (Post 697488)
O, I didn't quite catch that when you wrote this:
but maybe I just have to read between the lines ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

No, I just didn't explain it fully because I wasn't discussing the topic in as much detail. I explained some of the finer details later, im that first post you quoted. I didn't change my stance at all, I just explained it more thoroughly.


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