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deadowl 01-05-2016 12:07 AM

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Posted by Conquest (Post 655700)
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I don't have to explain to you the overwhelming trend of Jewish bankers, CEOs in the media, celebrities, real-estate executives, wars, Israeli glorification, demonization of "Jewish enemies" as history's "worst of the worst", lawyers, overwhelming spike in textbook "historical inventors", Federal Reserve, and so on. When a KKK member says, "We are God's chosen race, and the blacks are meant to serve us", the public thinks: "YOU RACIST PIG!" When a Jewish person attends synagogues or sells Bibles with the Messianic prophecies that they are "God's chosen race & people destined to inherit the earth & everyone will serve them", the public says: "I see nothing wrong with your traditional beliefs. You go girl!" Believe what you want, I've done my duty; Christ himself rebuked these hypocrites for their racism and greed, and was crucified; if you think it's magically different today because a huge portion of the population doesn't see the malice in their economic practice of Jewish favoritism, go about your way. I am here to speak the truth.

Think about that tenth commandment though. Why not just go hang out with some Jewish people and get to know them beyond your hate-filled stereotypes? I'm friends with far too many Jewish people to really want to associate with you after reading this. And no, none of them ever suggest that they're better than me in any way, or even talk about events like the Holocaust if it isn't already in context. All I get out of anyone that throws me off sometimes is a bias toward Israel in the Israel/Palestine conflict, and it comes off as more of a sense of collective identity than anything else (that the Israeli government will pay for any practicing Jew to travel to Israel probably reinforces this mindset). If you think that racial and religious identity are problems, you don't sound like you're generalizing it to any other groups of people.

You say you like Rastafari. It's literally a Zionist religion. Of course if you knew any of its adherents you'd have already lost points by calling the religion Rastafarianism (Re: the ism-schism game).

Conquest 01-05-2016 12:13 AM

Capitalism also rewards desire (addiction especially) & rarity; you have to understand that this isn't necessarily real happiness. A lot of it is destructive with no long term benefit—and does not extend one's life or improve the quality: Only superficially and attached to fantasy.

The concept of outer "beauty" has long been evolving from wicked men & women; they exploit the addictive desires of security, love, and sex (people's needs) to steal people's time & sanctity. They get others addicted to them; but they are so ****ing evil that they literally just walk away when they're done—leaving the other person crying, crawling, and suicidal—in agony for the rest of their life. They then either demolish that person's reputation, play the crybaby & get sympathy attention & rewards, or milk their victim for more gifts & property. The wistful longing has been used to make others obsess over them, but they literally are dead inside; they're twisted, evil people—so what most people call "beautiful" is actually the art of downright evil & ugliness with a long history of exploiting people's sacred desires.

The theory of "beauty" has evolved for so long by sexual swindlers; they use other people's desires & addictive lust to control them—but, because they're dead/numb inside, they don't get addicted. They're evil. Now, for thousands of years this pornographic obsession has evolved; this rotten sluts have no integrity, and they will pose naked for a painting, a photo, screw on camera for $$$, plaster their faces everywhere in advertisements. They advertise their bodies & appearance, their sex allure for resources; they don't care about love and never have. The kind of pigs who approve of this, feed into it, and pay prostitutes are the ones running the show; they don't care about you. They just like power play, which is why they play with prostitutes because they get to have an imaginary power of money over another body without love.

So, "beauty" is generally prostitution. Capitalism rewards this dark spell that has been cast over the public; capitalist nations are generally obsessed with sex. They are sex addicts. They watch movies & shows, read magazines, watch porn, etc. featuring a bunch of acting wh0res. They show cleavage, leg, shake their butts, get presented as "graceful beacons of beauty & wonder"; it is a huuuuuuge spell from the witchcraft of money.

People end up in fake marriages or heartbroken and destroyed because of this false beauty & love playing off their desires for resources. They want to keep you addicted & believing. But true beauty is inside. Look around you; there are countless pharmaceutical factories prescribing drugs that create more problems for problems that were either imagined, misdiagnosed, temporary, the result of something unrealized, etc. People get addicted to them and sell the drugs.

Drug stores, oversized supermarkets full of poisons & junk, clothing & textile factories, stupid gadgets & machines no one needs, overpriced vehicles, gas & oil that no one needs (but dark forces keep high technologies oppressed), offices of annoying pesky businesses who sell services no one needs, countless hotels & motels no one needs, countless bars no one needs, stadiums, banks, fake churches selling false Christs & racism, and all other forms of vanity. 99% of this whole society is a flimsy hologram of pollution & ****.

Even diamonds aren't rare; they've been monopolized, swindled by gangsters, and sold as rare objects of love ("a diamond is forever"). What does rarity have to do with worth, anyway? Nothing, inherently. Capitalism has very little to do with success. It is entirely about desire, temptation, beating down your self-esteem into feeling worthless and like you need something that isn't yours or that you don't have; it wants you to feel like power is rare, when in fact it's just an illusion.

Money is a witchcraft; beauty is a spell. Capitalism is a product selling products; marketing is a bully stirring up mischief & telling you your lunch money is the cure.

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Think about that tenth commandment though. Why not just go hang out with some Jewish people and get to know them beyond your hate-filled stereotypes? I'm friends with far too many Jewish people to really want to associate with you after reading this. And no, none of them ever suggest that they're better than me in any way, or even talk about events like the Holocaust if it isn't already in context. All I get out of anyone that throws me off sometimes is a bias toward Israel in the Israel/Palestine conflict, and it comes off as more of a sense of collective identity than anything else (that the Israeli government will pay for any practicing Jew to travel to Israel probably reinforces this mindset). If you think that racial and religious identity are problems, you don't sound like you're generalizing it to any other groups of people.

You say you like Rastafari. It's literally a Zionist religion. Of course if you knew any of its adherents you'd have already lost points by calling the religion Rastafarianism (Re: the ism-schism game).

There isn't a single thing original about pathetic idiots like you who acquiesce to questioning wealthy Christian & Islamic agendas, corrupt police, KKK, etc. but when Jews are called into question you speak as if you have expressed profundity by turning a blind ear & calling it "hatred"—denouncing each and every single agenda that has been mentioned. I criticize everyone and I don't associate with filthy pigs like you who are looking for reasons to kill the voice of reason while glamorizing his "oh so perfect sense of justice". Go **** yourself, because I have nothing to do with you; and believe me, whatever hatred you have accused me of—there is 10 times more fire ready to destroy you, so you better watch who you **** with as my German ancestors and other brothers have been on the receiving end of your belligerent hate & racism, Jewish hate, & criticism for far too long.

You criticize the Nazis, and anyone who questions the Jewish agenda—and you run around making every Jew seem like a perfect little angel when I know damn better to be calling any organized belief system perfect; I don't hold back on criticizing Christian baptist homo-hating & killing churches, and I sure as **** won't sit back and let Jewish non-semite hating, German hating, and economic bullies attack this society.

And for the record, I don't give a **** about Rastafarianism that much, and yes it's a word you fool; even if not, you know what it means you pathetic little man. I enjoy it for how it questioned a lot of things, but I don't agree with Zionism & I don't agree with Christian, Jewish, Islamic, or any other agenda trying to divide mankind's spirit for money & power. There are countless denominations FOR ANY LABEL OF BELIEF SYSTEM, and I DON'T HAVE TO sit around and point out the obvious to avoid Hitler accusations from you, because you know what I'm talking about—and if you can't see it, then you shouldn't be in this conversation. For the same reason that someone says there are powerful Christians trying to kill homosexuals & take their rights away—and you wouldn't be calling them Nazis—you have absolutely lost ALL respect with you little "Jew hating" accusation & rant.

5hift 01-05-2016 12:22 AM

Ugh, you're literally blowing everything out of proportion.

Yeah, there is a dark side to many things in this world but carrying them everywhere you go isn't going to make your world any brighter.

You can have your opinions on the world, but don't forget, others have their own as well.

Why should your world be any more imperfect as theirs?

Some people live genuinely good lives not because they have money or anything "materialistic". How you perceive life is how valuable you make it.

And being so anti-materialistic just so happens to bring the materialism out of yourself.

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Posted by Conquest (Post 656256)
There isn't a single thing original about pathetic idiots like you who acquiesce to questioning wealthy Christian & Islamic agendas, corrupt police, KKK, etc. but when Jews are called into question you speak as if you have expressed profundity by turning a blind ear & calling it "hatred"—denouncing each and every single agenda that has been mentioned. I criticize everyone and I don't associate with filthy pigs like you who are looking for reasons to kill the voice of reason while glamorizing his "oh so perfect sense of justice". Go **** yourself, because I have nothing to do with you.

Ok you seriously need to calm down.

At this point you're not trying to make any point except to ****talk anyone who doesn't agree with you.

Conquest 01-05-2016 12:30 AM

Oh wow, so original; assert that I am just a negative fault-finding nancy. The purpose of this conversation was to "find the better way", and is specifically about pointing out how there are countless flaws in systems and finding a better system; and no, it does't make me out to be materialistic you sick piece of ****, it's about me no longer wanting to feel the sorrow of the people deep inside me with their body dysmorphia, hypochondria, vanity, promiscuity, drugs, and other diseases. Ah, but you're not spiritual so you wouldn't understand the pains I feel. If you don't like it, go find a thread that is specifically labeled, "Capitalism's rainbow sunshines & unicorns".

5hift 01-05-2016 12:33 AM

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Posted by Conquest (Post 656272)
Oh wow, so original; assert that I am just a negative fault-finding nancy. The purpose of this conversation was to "find the better way", and is specifically about pointing out how there are countless flaws in systems and finding a better system; and no, it does't make me out to be materialistic you sick piece of ****. If you don't like it, go find a thread that is specifically labeled, "Capitalism's rainbow sunshines & unicorns".

Man being such a narcissist must really be tough sometimes...

We wonder where all the love went, and there it is...

Oh and btw, nobody said Capitalism was perfect.

In fact, if Capitalism was perfect, you certainly wouldn't be throwing such a hissy fit right now.

But before you even think about saying it, Communism and Socialism are nowhere near perfect as well.

You can't please everyone.

Conquest 01-05-2016 12:35 AM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 656274)
Man being such a narcissist must really be tough sometimes...

We wonder where all the love went, and there it is...

Oh and btw, nobody said Capitalism was perfect.

In fact, if Capitalism was perfect, you certainly wouldn't be throwing such a hissy fit right now.

Dude I don't care about what you have to say. You really think that being charming to me sometimes has changed my opinion? You've lost my respect a long time ago with your trolling, and if I wanted to win your approval or others it'd be easy; I'd stop speaking what needs to be said or having the courage to say the unpopular.

5hift 01-05-2016 12:37 AM

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Posted by Conquest (Post 656277)
Dude I don't care about what you have to say. You really think that being charming to me sometimes has changed my opinion? You've lost my respect a long time ago with your trolling, and if I wanted to win your approval or others it'd be easy; I'd stop speaking what needs to be said or having the courage to say the unpopular.

Lol, like I had respect for somebody as negative and rude as you either to begin with.

Disrespect me all you want.

Just know, you're an asshole as well.

Even with a face with such nice structure as yours, I still rather sit at the other side of the table from you.

Crono 01-05-2016 12:38 AM

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Posted by Conquest (Post 655992)
I'm also part "Native American"; not sure who you think you're preaching to; and living as a homosexual undiagnosed with Asperger's and body-dysmorphia (the leading cause of suicide) while all of my childhood accomplishments were robbed from me and my family scapegoated me. I have no family, no spouse, no kids, no money, I can't get a job due to my obsessive compulsive disorders. Most people just look at me and see an intelligent, talented, handsome white man and assume I know no pain or suffering and exploit my good nature, lie to me, charm me or judge me, take what they want and call me pathetic & blame me for doing it because I can't keep a job and don't have money, a house, or a family; people promise you the world all the time to get what they want, and they obsess over vanity. They build up your need for love and exploit it.

You can't do **** in this country without a family, love, or money. I'm not sure what you mean by "living comfortably". I've wanted to die every day of my life and it takes all my strength to stop myself from collapsing, ripping my wrist open, and letting it all go

You can thank your capitalist society for giving you the opportunity to sit here and post all this. You can thank the system you hate so much for keeping you warm, alive, and fed. It's easy to sit there and talk **** after you're literally living out first world problems. Let me know when you're actually out there fighting to survive.

p.s as you yourself have stated, you have a lot of mental issues. What makes you think half the nonsense you spout isn't part of it? Do you even read what you type anymore?

Conquest 01-05-2016 12:40 AM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 656281)
Lol, like I had respect for somebody as negative and rude as you either to begin with.

Disrespect me all you want.

Just know, you're an asshole as well.

Even with a face with such nice structure as yours, I still rather sit at the other side of the table from you.

By this logic you would hate nearly every brilliant person who has ever walked the face of the earth, because they tend to have strong beliefs, speak the truth however unpopular, and do it passionately. Oh but I supposed you've found the key to everything … Telling people when to calm down, how much is too much. Yes, it is you who are my perfect soul mate match and will keep me in check. Quit hitting on me, I monitor myself

5hift 01-05-2016 12:43 AM

He seriously thinks he's the only one in this world that has problems?

Boy does that get me.

Any day you think your misfortunes somehow make you more credible than me, expect a nice ol' "go F yourself."

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Posted by Conquest (Post 656286)
By this logic you would hate nearly every brilliant person who has ever walked the face of the earth, because they tend to have strong beliefs, speak the truth however unpopular, and do it passionately. Oh but I supposed you've found the key to everything … Telling people when to calm down, how much is too much. Yes, it is you who are my perfect soul mate match and will keep me in check. Quit hitting on me, I monitor myself

Hey, any time you wish to stop bashing others, I'll stand aside.

But just watching you do what you do just doesn't sit well with me.

I'm not going to sit on the fence just because you think you've got bigger fangs than me.

Conquest 01-05-2016 12:47 AM

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Posted by Crono (Post 656283)
You can thank your capitalist society for giving you the opportunity to sit here and post all this. You can thank the system you hate so much for keeping you warm, alive, and fed. It's easy to sit there and talk **** after you're literally living out first world problems. Let me know when you're actually out there fighting to survive.

I'll thank the earth, dude. And I've fasted for weeks at a time and came close to starving to death; I've gone years without sex or masturbation, a computer, a TV, slept on a wooden floor. If I need to be warm, there are places in the south; oh, yes, but this capitalist society invented mother nature and the south didn't it? How ungracious of me to see possibility and thank the earth.

Really, you are absolutely delusional; capitalism didn't create the goodness of the human spirit or order—it is an aspect within it. God—the Human Spirit—has clothed me, fed me, and giving me a laptop to chit chat on; and frankly, I don't need a laptop to talk on thank you very much. But we live in an over civilized materialistic society who divides itself with computers and wants me to use my computer skills to contribute.

Really, I've given more than I've received, so you can quit with the ungracious accusations. It's ungracious of you not to give me compassion or validation for my suffering or perspectives; instead this society is rife with overfed idiots who want to tell others who experience pain & injustice that it isn't real—and even accusing them of being mentally ill and incredible. It must be reeeeeal nice sitting in your warm perfect little life. Yea, it's you who is ungracious and needs taste of reality, so overly dependent on the way things are that you have no ability to value a modern Socrates or messiah when you see it—but instead look through rose colored glasses of your corporate textbooks & churches.

I'm done with this thread

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Posted by 5hift (Post 656287)
He seriously thinks he's the only one in this world that has problems?

Boy does that get me.

Any day you think your misfortunes somehow make you more credible than me, expect a nice ol' "go F yourself."

Listen, loser—I've poured my heart and soul out on these forums and your nasty ugly hearted ass has done nothing but call me a Nazi, ridicule my God, tell me I am a whiny little problem obsessed ungracious pig. I speak the modern Word from Archangel Gabriel making me the richest man in the world, and you never ask about it—no interest, just ridicule. You are dead to me

5hift 01-05-2016 12:53 AM

Got no interest in your spiritual beliefs but your moral beliefs disturb me greatly.

Name calling is also a great way not to gain support but rather to attract attention.

Oh wait, isn't that what you've been doing this entire time?

Pouring your "heart and soul" into these forums?

Don't make me gag on my tongue.

You stand on people like they're lesser beings than you and frankly, its disgusting.

If anyone needs to **** off, its you.

TWIZ 01-05-2016 01:37 AM

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Posted by Conquest (Post 656286)
By this logic you would hate nearly every brilliant person who has ever walked the face of the earth, because they tend to have strong beliefs, speak the truth however unpopular, and do it passionately. Oh but I supposed you've found the key to everything … Telling people when to calm down, how much is too much. Yes, it is you who are my perfect soul mate match and will keep me in check. Quit hitting on me, I monitor myself

Have you ever considered the possibility, even in the slightest, that you're wrong? I have, but I just want to know if you have, because one could reason it is foolish to be open minded when even the man so certain of his beliefs swindles my passion. In other words, who is foolish? Me, or you?


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