Of course they will have online, it's whether or not they will support it in a decent manner. At the very least, I hope they match PSN, if they pull a miracle, they take a hint from Xbox live and try to do what they've done.

Dude I lived through the PS1, this **** doesn't bother me. Also, bluray still loads slower than DVD even after installing the game to the hard drive.

Thats because the ps3 uses blueray.

Blueray discs are bigger...so...your saying ps3 is better because they use a bigger disc medium?

Well, the WiiU will use a disc thats larger than blueray, so, the WiiU is the better system, obviously. Right?

Really? Dude, Nintendo ****ing hates loading times. How the hell are they gonna address that? O.o

Don't ask me. lol

The last I heard, they were opting for something besides blueray, and I think they decided on duel layered dvd? Not sure, but it can hold a ton of content.

Dual-layered DVD's already exist and have been used, they don't offer anywhere near the size of a Bluray. Even if they use something other than bluray, loading times will still be an issue because of the current state of disc-reading technology.

Like I said, idunno. :P

I just know they didn't want to use bluray, but have something of greater size.
Perhaps wizardry of some sort. Nintendo can afford that, I think.

Nintendo strips every console they make to the bare bones in order to make it the cheapest price as possible.
I mean its almost 2012 and I still haven't been able to watch a DVD on a machine with a Nintendo logo on it.

They didn't strip anything down on the DVD. It can play DVD's, they simply made it so the software doesn't allow it. If you put homebrew stuff on your Wii it will play DVD's fine. Why did they not give us an option? *shrug* But I'm guessing they were scared of the lasers burning out like the PS2 had problems with.

WiiU, taking the money from Mii!

I don't think the controller is just going to be a second display. They'll probably utilize it like the bottom screen of a Nintendo DS.

its used as the main display if your wii is disconected from your tv or the input is changed..not sure exactly how it works but thats what it does in the ad.

Yeah you can see scumbag dad turning off the TV and the kid playing his game on that in one of the commericals. Without a doubt it will be laggy and run out of batteries very easily.

Actually, thats not true. :o

Nintendo has said that developers can use the second screen however they like.
They can use it as a main display.

In the New Super Mario Bros. Mii example, it can be used to play the entire game on the display, without the use of a tv.

But in other demos, it was used as a shield, a looking glass, an inventory, map, etc.

So...if the developers want the ability to throw the screen onto the controller, they can do that. But thats not its main use. :P

eh I never said it couldn't do those things.
but if some games cant be fully played on the controller alone that makes the WiiU even less desirable imo

oh and also that might as well be false advertising too on Nintendo's part

More curious about;
Do you really need the Wii to get it work?