cxe is nothing without trigger and archon and it is true that guilds that were able to get
1k without admins deserve more credit. bumps are cool

Goten I like how you crap talk yet rebellious is nothing without you.
That guild only has towers because you are on.
When you can get that guild to run without you on please come back and talk crap

Any guild that isn't rebellious you look down on it yet your guild ran faster because gabe helped you a lot at euro shift and aussie.

I wouldn't really say trigger since he didn't tower with us and we mostly towered on our own. Archon did play the big part of getting members in and make good friendships. He was a great leader and always will be. He did help VG start up and have great members which most did join CxE when they retired, but main reason why guild towers are active is because the members need their friends to be in it or start friendships to be more active. Why would you join a guild where you know no one? that will get boring and most likely no one will talk to you at first.

Without trigger making cruxis there wouldn’t be a cxe and without archon being the initial leader maybe cxe wouldn’t been able to start towering. Once he got them to 5k plus hrs he could’ve left the guild to anyone and it would continue to thrive. I’m not saying they did it by themselves but they were the major reason cxe went on to get 10k plus and them being admins also helped since there’s always plenty of brown nosers willing to join admin led guilds.
That says a lot about gabe as a graal friend. Not many leaders are willing to help out their guild members reach 1k after their own guild reached 1k.

Archon left at 3K and I had to lead it. He did train me on leading but most of the members left with him. So myself and the other members had to build cxe up and kept it going. Had a lot of help and met many great people. Yes, if Cruxis wasn't made and Aikan and me never talked I don't think we would of made CxE. Since I did play a big part in Cruxis and helped lead it before and after 1k. Archon and Kate were great leaders along with me. Cxe Wasn't really made for tower holding but into tower helping, but soon became a tower guild when we saw we had great members and shift times members. and i was the ass hole to the members being admin brown nose half the time. when i saw it i would shut them out which archon didn't like me to do but it bugged me that most did join for staff. Which is why I didn't become staff myself nor allowed them in after archon left.

O my! I wasn't talking crap lol didn't think you'd take being called a noob so serious. And you just said Gabe helped me alot so that just contradicted what you said about the guild only running with me on lol. Another comment, notice Vyse, NYN, Sensei G-baby, FloridaOranges, and other admins who did 1k guilds. They all share something in common, inactivity. Cxe had admins which is similar to these guilds even though the leader isn't an admin. Admin guilds get recruits easier, this is why leaders of non admin guilds usually have to bust there ass a bit more to keep there guild alive. Anyways back to Gabe, he was a great help but he quit after PiNoY stopped and didn't return to my guild until it had over 200 hours, with or without Gabe we would of got 1k easily, he just sped it up. Now back on topic to your remarks saying my guild can't run without me on. That's completely false, i'm not even on during school hours yet my new leads Darcy and Elusive are managing 5 hours without me... Not to mention we got 12 hours sunday while I was at work, I logged on to see my guild holding both sardon and castle... Not to mention the Saturday before that we held Sardon 8 hours after I went to bed. Rebellious has just comeback, I don't know how you can expect me to get a 24/7 team without me being on alot in just a matter of a few weeks... Even so I already proved were starting to come together without me on all the time. Even right now is a good example, logged off at 5 pm, just received a message from one of my leaders we still have swamp and it's 11 pm.

Also no, I don't look down upon any guilds but Rebellious. It's just that there aren't any decent guilds left anymore to respect.

And whenever YOU werent online, you would always lose your tower to one person (Tom). So yes, your guild was pretty dependent on you too. Similar story with SoN: Kate was gone for two weeks and just coincidently SoN could barely hold castle longer than 3hrs at a time. Getsuga is completely gone because Lanky quit (even though he wasnt guild owner he was basically sole leader). Every guild depends on its leader.

and also Rebellious 1k didnt have "euro" and "aussi" and "jap" shifts to hold towers 24/7. the 'murican shift was the only shift, 3pm to midnight and we still got 10hr+/day from double towers.

you bumped it up with saying it is a noob guild now? So how would i react to that?
That is clearly talking **** about it?

/facethroughdesk

It did have euro and aussie. I was on sometimes to help my crew and gabe, terry, siggy, and others were on to help gabe. Night crew as well.
And we lost it to tom no matter what even when i was on because i was bored of the pking.
and i was on sometimes and they did keep towers not 24/7 since every guild gets low at some point. they 120 hours when i was offline for 2 weeks and after the banned we got for the month I got bored of towers so I didn't really help at all. I had leads ready right after the banned to keep it going while I took a longer break. Yes, at first it did depend on and yes what goten is right I shouldn't of said it is only runs when he is on since it just started again and will take a bit to build his own euro and aussie shift.

Now why? Honestly.

Anyone else notice a trend of how Goten is apart of nearly every flame war on these forums? It could just be me, but w/e.

I'm out.

/closethread

Santa I called you a noob jokingly not the guild lol I honestly wasn't expecting that reaction. And Aaron this isn't even a flame war, the forums would be boring as hell if everyone had the same opinions and didn't argue once in a while. (You'll still read this).

/closethread

again you bump up with that?

Yeah I never noticed that comment of yours until I was rereading this thread and decided to bump the thread is that such a crime lol

I might be wrong but it looks like a misunderstanding. Santa said if reb would have kept going he would’ve helped and goten said that reb was now doing towers and the noob part was for santa in a none insulting way.
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