I wonder what delterias sub-forum problem will be xD

If they really wanted to reset Duke's stats, they would have. If transferring or merging resets all stats to 0, then there definitely is a way to reset Duke to 0.

At least this section's flame wars are somewhat entertaining to read, I guess. Everyone that bitches on iClassic bitches about the same, stupid ****.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=38uz9vQRZIQ listen to this first then come back. Copy and paste.

hmm, I'm sure there will be something.
I'm not sure there will be a Delteria subforum on Graalians even if it is officially announced, for reasons that do not concern myself.

true

I get +rep when I bitch. It's amusing lol

I'd rather read the bitching here than the "omg guisee towering isnt fare bcuz everyone arrow spams and admin guilds to get there pks so we should add 7 new towers to make it more fare" **** on iClassic.

i swear none of you read my posts :D

Anthony? Vincey? Luis? I saw Vincey have 0 kills and stats earlier but now he has like 170k kills he gave to Duke or something

Before I go, Can someone tell Ace no hard feelings? Kthxbye.

Ace, sungwonc says no hard feelings.

Anthony never gave him his account, vincey gave him his second account which head a bunch of crap on it, idk if luis did or not. The majority of those pks were from his friend goblin who I believe quit.

Hey, I wont make any promises, I might make an exception to the rules just for you Bro' I know you like full resets and for people to serve justice, just sayin'.

I didn't deal the punishment, so - feel free to keep trying to blame me for whatever Dukes punishment was >:)

I'll keep an eye on your transfers and let know you are entirely for full resets and that we should put those rules in immediately to respect your wishes. Thank you have a nice day.

I don't see where I've blamed you for anything but if you wanna take it personal go right ahead :)

How do you go from, "the accounts had 0 kills" to "most of the kills were from goblin"

So, again, if my friend quit to your beliefs I can have his account lose my items but keep the stats?

See, exceptions...get the goddamn rules straight and follow them, even though each scenario is different

You obviously neglect to see my playfulness in that Ace. I'm just saying if he wants full resets, i'm happy to give him one if that's what he wishes.

Either way, from what I read throughout the thread, you guys care to much about your internet e-peens and you just need to rub it all better and look all nice and shiny again to all your friends who couldn't give a monkey's :)

If you really don't like it, quit, else just carry on playing and stop the whining.

lol

That's the most hidious way to quit. I thought games were about having the high score and trying to be the best. In this case the kill counts are the high score

I guess, it's fairly unexciting though.

Isn't the idea of games to pass time and have fun? That is what I've always had as an assumption. Why play a game if you're not enjoying it or having fun?
It's not just about the best stats, it's about the journey, the best weapons etc aren't meant for everybody in most games. :)

I'm competetive :) and this kind of bull**** isn't accepted

It's just a number, you need to take a step away from the game and look at what you are really arguing about.

Think my point still stands on the matter >:)

I've been informed you have to change kills/deaths and online hours by script, of which only Snk knows and wasn't involved in the matter, so let us stop this madness.

Close thread :)

I like hot steaming lobster with warm butter poured all over it and a nice drink of vodka but it's spendy :(

To make this clear, duke lost all his stuff, including guns, melees, hats and etc.
He also lost his spar stats
Luis kills is reset to 0
Goblin kills is also reset to 0
Anthony never gave his account
Vincey only gave his scnd account
Even if duke have 1 kills im sure u will lose to him
Kthxbye

I didn't read every page, but for the record, I did not reset Duke.
He was banned by me for illegally getting items (transfers, scam or whatever, doesn't matter now).
I'm not lenient, I don't care who you are. If you break the rules, you would be banned for it. In my opinion, it doesn't matter if the other players were stupid for giving him their info or not, we can never be sure. How do we know he didn't buy the other player's accounts outside of the game? This is illegal FYI. It is also the reason why we don't allow transfers of items/accounts between different players.

The decision was made to restore him and allow it to happen. It wasn't my call, I don't support it, but as I've stated in the past, it is out of my control. The managers etc dealt with it. If it was favoritism, so be it. What can you do, right?

Some argue, it is better to have him play and keep the player count up, rather than ban him. Please be aware that it could also have negative effects on player count. You may be allowing one player to have "willingness to play" in hopes to keep that player in game and at the same time cause other players to quit due to unfairness. It works both ways.

I am sorry the decision upset most of you, and I completely understand. I did my part, the rest is out of my control.

this thread should of been closed when it was started.

A very fair and mature response.
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There are people who play Era for different reasons.
Some are here to socialise with friends, so kills do not matter.
Some are here to build gangs, so base hours matters most.
Some are here for pks, so killa matter most.
Some are here for spars, so spar stats are everything to them.
Some are here to collect rares. so they try their best to collect weapons, melees and rares.
Some are simply here to chill.
Etc.

One man's meat another man's poison.
Clearly here there is a conflict of view points.
Some feel that kills are important simply because they are here to pk, their aim is to get the highest kills. They are the pkers.
If I am not mistaken, the highest kills in Era should originally be Mayu or Ace.
However Duke's merge of accounts upset this rank and now he has the highest kills at 350k due to an illegal merge of account of 150k worth of kills.
Obviously this will upset players who suddenly find their ranks shifted behind. Especially when they try their best to pk and earn every single kill by themselves since they do not have the option to merge any accounts.
Is merging legit? No.

Hence punishment was given.
Duke's spars were resetted and his weapons taken away.
From the management point of view this is fair as this has impaired partially his abllity to play, since he lost his guns and melees. And hence, is a form of penalization.
And he was also unbanned, as if i am not mistaken, reset and bans dont go hand in hand. Is either a ban or a reset.

In my opinion, I would think it is only fair if the kills are resetted as well or at least back to the original around 200k so as not to upset the ranking, and to be fair to players who earn their kills legitmately.

However, the management feel that a removal of all weapons, customs, hats and spars is a severe enough punishment.
Of course, different people would have different viewpoints and reactions to this.
Some feel that is harsh enough, while some feel that is unfair as it's too lenient.

What I can suggest as a best solution, is to enforce a fix set of rules going forward.
For instance, probably state it on Graalians or on iEra, if you steal/scam/illegally merge accounts which do not belong to you, this form of punishment will be dealt.
This would also help to deter players who have the thought of stealing accounts as they are aware of the punishment which awaits them.

And back to the case above, punishment has already been decided and dealt with by higher management.
There is nothing NCJ, or even Snake or Street can do.
If you insist, you can email Snk your views but eventually, it would still be up to him on how he handles the case or whether he feels that he has already handled the situation appropriately.

alright, imma spare the giant speech, hearts did good enough of a job at that but my only real problem here is you guys have said over and over again that scamming is legal, not a bannable offence. so are you saying your banning him for scamming partially? cause that is no grounds for ban. transfers are, i know.

This.

Lol you guys still talking about me? Saying I can't pk and would never get those stats is false from the fact i got 12k in 2 days. Also regarding Street I didnt merge rk get items, I already had BAR and everything I needed. 2 of my friends were gonna quit so I didn't see the point of letting the accounts die. MY time on era is up and I will give my account to a friend. Remember its just a game.

Good for you, no one really gives a crap right now.

Thanks hearts for saying everything me and ace said in essay form.

Took me like an hour to read all this xD

Just a game? Why not leave there accounts... obviously it matters to you.

It didn't matter whether you had everything you needed. You still had items merged onto your account that you may not have needed, but did not belong to you.

iEra being "just a game" doesn't give you the justification to cheat or play unfairly. :P

Duke.
I do also know that Mario (Magus) got resetted by snk or something..

I was banned(only banned) then emailed snk to explain my situation,I was banned AND F U L L Y reset.Then I had to say if I don't have my spar stats back(which Has nothing to do with what I "stole")I wouldn't play anymore.
What ace is trying to say is that if you steal pk's then your pks should be reset.If you steal someone's souizen(trough accounts) then you get inv reset.
I was also told that account sharing/giving(friends) is as illegal as stealing.
Basicaly: Duke was never fully reset,I was.Thanks to snk for giving me my spar stats.

Could you go away, you sound like an admin and your clearly not.

Could we be friends?

LOL

Like you said, healy was a staff member, but not Hearts (as I recall) :P

Read through all of this, looks like Snk made the wrong decision that nobody agrees with but they have to support his decisions because "nothing can be done about it"

I'd confront Snk about this together if I were staff. Maybe you could get him to do the right thing, also if duke transfers his account to a friend, or if he quits, his account should be reset fully.

Yeah, I was the one that reset you =D

Yeah but because he is popular he just gets left alone, how freaking ridicules.

His punishment was dealt with, you don't really go back and amend punishments x.x

But why'd he get to keep his kills?

Actually someone can be charged in court with a sentence then later it can be increased or decreased. Normally seen in "for life" cases. Law n order mayne

Not increase dude.... Unless the person murders another while serving his sentence.

Ah, sorry - I wasn't aware this was the criminal justice system! damn, I feel so ashamed for not knowing that in my entire time here :(

Unless they do something else wrong or another charge is brought forward, pretty sure it doesn't increase o.o

As for Era News, moron.. Read the thread and you'll see why it wasn't reset at the time.

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