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Fulgore 05-29-2016 12:35 AM

lemirp was MJ, Charles Barkely, Magic Johnson, Shaq, and Kobe.

Equal amount of evidence.

Edit: Yeah you go delete that post Crime

Zetectic 05-29-2016 12:46 AM

Btw I am editing right now and I see 4 different matches of WMD vs. Lemirp??
what's going on here? lol, was 2nd match tie?

Chun 05-29-2016 12:54 AM

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Posted by James205 (Post 708914)
2. If IPs don't match... how would 2-3 0 stat people make it that far... suspicious

Except hosts can't DQ someone just because they look "suspicious". They could make a rule that requires all members to have minimum amount of online time or stats. Though I don't think it would help much.

TeK 05-29-2016 12:57 AM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 708929)
Btw I am editing right now and I see 4 different matches of WMD vs. Lemirp??
what's going on here? lol, was 2nd match tie?

Did you catch any of Solace's matches? Specifically vs. Silver & VIS, rest don't really matter too much

James205 05-29-2016 01:08 AM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 708929)
Btw I am editing right now and I see 4 different matches of WMD vs. Lemirp??
what's going on here? lol, was 2nd match tie?

1 tie, also i was trying report them in the room so it delayed things a little bit, i have video of everything lol

Lockdown 05-29-2016 01:10 AM

I just thought about a cool idea which might be a neat thing to do. Nothing to implement into gameplay, just something for the community to possibly do for fun. With YouTube live streaming etc, I thought that maybe a few people could livestream the GST events and also commentate about them and the different guilds, and people that missed out could tune in after the livestream and see the outcomes for themselves.

I would be willing to do this, if anyone would want to join me?

James205 05-29-2016 01:11 AM

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Posted by Chun (Post 708933)
Except hosts can't DQ someone just because they look "suspicious". They could make a rule that requires all members to have minimum amount of online time or stats. Though I don't think it would help much.

Agreed but they actually can

Zetectic 05-29-2016 01:15 AM

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Posted by TeK (Post 708935)
Did you catch any of Solace's matches? Specifically vs. Silver & VIS, rest don't really matter too much

I think i only have 1 match of Silver vs Solace idev.
Btw should I upload incomplete matches or nah? like where I record 1 match and went to another arena.

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Posted by James205 (Post 708939)
1 tie, also i was trying report them in the room so it delayed things a little bit, i have video of everything lol

so should i leave out WMD matches?

Thallen 05-29-2016 01:25 AM

Alumni Mixed won't participate in the next GST, or at least me, David, and Dante won't... I'm not sure about Eko, Skull, and MK. You can spam them with team offers if you want... I can't say I won't change my mind if something new and exciting comes along, or if they combine both GSTs into one as some have suggested.

So ya, Mixed is done... Not at 12 wins yet, but we'll get there through our iDevice team or something like that. Not 100% sure what to expect in the coming months of changes. I do want to lead a guild or at least participate in the new guild system though, but I don't think that guild will be Alumni.

Zetectic 05-29-2016 01:43 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 708959)
Alumni Mixed won't participate in the next GST, or at least me, David, and Dante won't... I'm not sure about Eko, Skull, and MK. You can spam them with team offers if you want... I can't say I won't change my mind if something new and exciting comes along, or if they combine both GSTs into one as some have suggested.

So ya, Mixed is done... Not at 12 wins yet, but we'll get there through our iDevice team or something like that. Not 100% sure what to expect in the coming months of changes. I do want to lead a guild or at least participate in the new guild system though, but I don't think that guild will be Alumni.

it would be fun to see you, David, Dante take a part in iDevice side.

and also yeah finally primetime, brett's team might get a chance to win the gst.

Brett 05-29-2016 02:03 AM

Would rather lose vs hard teams than win easily...just me personally, I don't care about winning, but it's nice if we do. Still boring to wait 3 months in between with nothing happening competitively till than

Ruppy 05-29-2016 02:06 AM

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Posted by Brett (Post 708964)
Would rather lose vs hard teams than win easily...just me personally, I don't care about winning, but it's nice if we do. Still boring to wait 3 months in between with nothing happening competitively till than

I completely agree it is lame to wait 3 months for this with nothing interesting fun o do in between..

On the other hand, let's all give a huge round of applause for the Dynasty that Alumni has obtained! IDK any other team that can do what Alumni has done and it was a great honor to not only watch but spar them as well. Congrats and GL in the future ;)

Winter 05-29-2016 02:12 AM

I am willing to guild spar competitively whenever possible during the in-between season. No need for hats or belts. Hopefully others are up for the same.

Aguzo 05-29-2016 02:15 AM

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Posted by Winter (Post 708966)
I am willing to guild spar competitively whenever possible during the in-between season. No need for hats or belts. Hopefully others are up for the same.

I wish the players would setup a dedicated GB (gamebattles) style brackets.
Teams can setup matches against each other. Could have a few players moderate the matches, and make sure people aren't cheating.

If I was good at making websites, I'd do something like that.

James205 05-29-2016 02:15 AM

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Posted by Brett (Post 708964)
Would rather lose vs hard teams than win easily...just me personally, I don't care about winning, but it's nice if we do. Still boring to wait 3 months in between with nothing happening competitively till than

Gh guild spar

Saber Alumba 05-29-2016 02:46 AM

Despite having some technical difficulties here and there , was a good gst.
Hardest team we faced was in my opinion probably vindictive idev , they had good teamwork and where quite good at keeping their walls.
Unfortunate that alumni had to 4vs5 and lose vs VIS due to it.
Congrats to mixed alumni for 1st place( not a surprise tbh ), brackets did sucked tho which made finals very anticlimactic...

Zetectic 05-29-2016 03:00 AM

https://www.youtube.com/user/ZetecticProduction/videos

i am uploading all the gst videos i have right now. sorry for the horrible musics. i didn't wanna spend 1-2 hours trying to find good music that doesn't block worldwide while ~10 ppl are waiting for me to upload videos. so i just used whatever i had.

i hope there's no error. i kinda rushed.

Brett 05-29-2016 03:48 AM

Did a lot more horrible when im watching vids... looks like i sucked/underperformed.. we might of got the worst songs for ours.... ty for uploads

David 05-29-2016 03:49 AM

did horrible first round vs holy but made up for it 2nd round, ggs all around

Zetectic 05-29-2016 04:37 AM

Gaahhh i should've used Drum & Bass series. these are much better than those..

and idk why i talked so much in this gst lol. prob cus i thought i was gonna play 1 round, but end up just watching the whole gst..

Aguzo 05-29-2016 04:54 AM

I thought I should have gotten my last hit, but then I paused it... can't believe that I turned away, and got bodied in less than a millisecond.
Either great reading or just luck. or eko has great editing skills

alexx 05-29-2016 04:55 AM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 709012)
I thought I should have gotten my last hit, but then I paused it... can't believe that I turned away, and got bodied in less than a millisecond.
Either great reading or just luck.

Watch thalls other spars, you see him doing this to Abel as well. I'm pretty sure it's just good reading

CrimeWatcher 05-29-2016 06:53 AM

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Posted by Saber Alumba (Post 708979)
Despite having some technical difficulties here and there , was a good gst.
Hardest team we faced was in my opinion probably vindictive idev , they had good teamwork and where quite good at keeping their walls.
Unfortunate that alumni had to 4vs5 and lose vs VIS due to it.
Congrats to mixed alumni for 1st place( not a surprise tbh ), brackets did sucked tho which made finals very anticlimactic...

I dunno why you're using a 4v5 as an excuse to why Alumni lost. The one time they were "4v5" was when Sarah was frozen the entire spar and would suddenly unfreeze and warp hit us a ton of times, by the way they won that match lol. Sarah being frozen was an advantage for Alumni as she was getting 3 hit combos off of her warps and taking no damage. You should watch the gst videos james posted. I also have no idea why the admins didn't kick her out during the spar for excessively lagging.

James205 05-29-2016 06:57 AM

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Posted by CrimeWatcher (Post 709029)
I dunno why you're using a 4v5 as an excuse to why Alumni lost. The one time they were "4v5" was when Sarah was frozen the entire spar and would suddenly unfreeze and warp hit us a ton of times, by the way they won that match lol. Sarah being frozen was an advantage for Alumni as she was getting 3 hit combos off of her warps and taking no damage. You should watch the gst videos james posted. I also have no idea why the admins didn't kick her out during the spar for excessively lagging.



Video for reference, i didn't get the beginning of the first match but i might have it, if i do i'll post the entire thing.

CrimeWatcher 05-29-2016 07:02 AM

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Posted by James205 (Post 709030)


Video for reference, i didn't get the beginning of the first match but i might have it, if i do i'll post the entire thing.

start @ 2:10 and watch sarah lmao, this was just one of the warps

Sarah_ 05-29-2016 08:27 AM

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Posted by CrimeWatcher (Post 709031)
start @ 2:10 and watch sarah lmao, this was just one of the warps

What's so funny about it??
Bought a router and data in order not to lag in the GST but Egyptian wifi sucks badly there's nothing I could do to make it better. Plus you should be happy I lagged like that it made you win.

But I agree that I should've got dqed during that round.

David M. 05-29-2016 10:42 AM

Has anyone recorded VIS vs Bello?

Saber Alumba 05-29-2016 11:02 AM

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Posted by CrimeWatcher (Post 709029)
I dunno why you're using a 4v5 as an excuse to why Alumni lost. The one time they were "4v5" was when Sarah was frozen the entire spar and would suddenly unfreeze and warp hit us a ton of times, by the way they won that match lol. Sarah being frozen was an advantage for Alumni as she was getting 3 hit combos off of her warps and taking no damage. You should watch the gst videos james posted. I also have no idea why the admins didn't kick her out during the spar for excessively lagging.

I'm not using it as an excuse , don't be so hostile lol. I'm just staying what's been said , my intention wasn't to imply they would or wouldn't have won if it didn't happen but as Im friends with a few alumni idevs I fell sorry they had to go through that technical difficulty as it's happened to me before so I know the feeling.

Edit :If anyone recorded some of the silver matches would be great if you could post them :)

James205 05-29-2016 12:06 PM

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Posted by David M. (Post 709047)
Has anyone recorded VIS vs Bello?

i have it but im going to sleep, ill post tomorrow

i also have basically all of silver

CrimeWatcher 05-29-2016 02:12 PM

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Posted by Saber Alumba (Post 709054)
I'm not using it as an excuse , don't be so hostile lol. I'm just staying what's been said , my intention wasn't to imply they would or wouldn't have won if it didn't happen but as Im friends with a few alumni idevs I fell sorry they had to go through that technical difficulty as it's happened to me before so I know the feeling.

Edit :If anyone recorded some of the silver matches would be great if you could post them :)

I don't really know how to respond to this because your original post literally says Alumni lost because of that round... which makes no sense because they won it??

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Posted by Saber Alumba (Post 708979)
Unfortunate that alumni had to 4vs5 and lose vs VIS due to it.

And I'm not really sure why anyone would be upset after winning a spar due to 'technical difficulties' lol. I'm not being hostile I'm just pointing out the fact about how much of an idiot you are and you really don't know what you are talking about.

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Posted by Sarah_ (Post 709038)
What's so funny about it??
Bought a router and data in order not to lag in the GST but Egyptian wifi sucks badly there's nothing I could do to make it better. Plus you should be happy I lagged like that it made you win.

But I agree that I should've got dqed during that round.

I was laughing at the fact Saber thinks thats the only reason you guys lost which in fact you won that round. Which proves he has no idea what he is talking about.

EDIT: Just realized you said I should be happy you lagged because it made us win.. Are you just as dense as Saber? You won the round you were lagging in. And if you will use the excuse 'I had to sub myself out' as a reason you lost, we beat you guys the first match with you sparring without your cheap warps.

Incognito 05-29-2016 03:05 PM

Bothers me that you guys can make an excuse for Alumni and Bello losing 4v5 when practically the same thing happened to VIS against Alumni last GST when we were easily winning the round until Fro's phone restarted, yet most of you decide to put it off like it was nothing.
So in that case, it's just too bad that they froze. It's no one elses fault but theirs. I respect Sarah for acknowledging that as well. Alumni deserved to beat us last GST, and we deserved to beat them and Bello this GST. Fair game, move on.

David M. 05-29-2016 03:08 PM

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Posted by Incognito (Post 709074)
Bothers me that you guys can make an excuse for Alumni and Bello losing 4v5 when practically the same thing happened to VIS against Alumni last GST when we were easily winning the round until Fro's phone restarted, yet most of you decide to put it off like it was nothing.
So in that case, it's just too bad that they froze. It's no one elses fault but theirs. I respect Sarah for acknowledging that as well. Alumni deserved to beat us last GST, and we deserved to beat them and Bello this GST. Fair game, move on.

Although admins could have stopped after Surge warped in the second round and let us use our sub. Not gonna complain tho u won

Saber Alumba 05-29-2016 03:39 PM

@crime, if they didn't have to deal with technical difficulties they might have won ? Your making this more than its mean to be lol

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Posted by Incognito (Post 709074)
Bothers me that you guys can make an excuse for Alumni and Bello losing 4v5 when practically the same thing happened to VIS against Alumni last GST when we were easily winning the round until Fro's phone restarted, yet most of you decide to put it off like it was nothing.
So in that case, it's just too bad that they froze. It's no one elses fault but theirs. I respect Sarah for acknowledging that as well. Alumni deserved to beat us last GST, and we deserved to beat them and Bello this GST. Fair game, move on.

But you made it to last gst finals because I froze when we was beating you on the last round ? So surely that cancels it out anyways

Incognito 05-29-2016 03:43 PM

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Posted by Saber Alumba (Post 709083)
@crime, if they didn't have to deal with technical difficulties they might have won ? Your making this more than its mean to be lol



If your gonna pull that up them I can can say the only reason

Obviously there's a language barrier here and you don't understand the context of what I said.

It's obviously Fro's fault that his phone restarted and we aren't going to make an excuse about it, we lost.

edit: didnt fully quote sabers post for some reason but whatever

Saber Alumba 05-29-2016 03:46 PM

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Posted by Incognito (Post 709084)
Obviously there's a language barrier here and you don't understand the context of what I said

edit: didnt fully quote sabers post for some reason but whatever

I just don't see why someone has to be so butthurt for me saying that if Sarah maybe didn't experience lag they could have won.

Incognito 05-29-2016 03:49 PM

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Posted by Saber Alumba (Post 709085)
I just don't see why someone has to be so butthurt for me saying that if Sarah maybe didn't experience lag they could have won.

we aren't butthurt, but us at VIS would at least want some credit for our ability to get past these tough brackets and consistently place semis. instead we keep getting recognized for these 5v4 wins that we have no control over.

Saber Alumba 05-29-2016 03:55 PM

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Posted by Incognito (Post 709086)
we aren't butthurt, but us at VIS would at least want some credit for our ability to get past these tough brackets and consistently place semis. instead we keep getting recognized for these 5v4 wins that we have no control over.

Well I did say " I'm not using it as an excuse , don't be so hostile lol. I'm just staying what's been said , my intention wasn't to imply they would or wouldn't have won if it didn't happen" in my previous reply but your team member seems to still be a bit jumpy.

Crono 05-29-2016 03:58 PM

you guys arent winning gst right

:belt in people's faces and laugh at the ******s who accuse you of having the entire thing rigged cuz "admins". das how u do it mane

Saber Alumba 05-29-2016 04:07 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 709088)
you guys arent winning gst right

:belt in people's faces and laugh at the ******s who accuse you of having the entire thing rigged cuz "admins". das how u do it mane

Time for us to rethink our strategies !

MikvaGraal 05-29-2016 04:09 PM

This thread lol

Thallen 05-29-2016 05:41 PM

What even is the current argument even about? Sarah had a lag spike, as she's been having regularly since she traveled to Egypt. Everyone acknowledged it. We all were begging to have her subbed out. She got subbed out. You guys won. No one talked trash or complained. Where's the problem?

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Posted by Incognito (Post 709074)
Bothers me that you guys can make an excuse for Alumni and Bello losing 4v5 when practically the same thing happened to VIS against Alumni last GST when we were easily winning the round until Fro's phone restarted, yet most of you decide to put it off like it was nothing.

Well, no one ever talked about how VIS has won GSTs while cheating and using banned players either... Especially when other teams (like us) did not use their banned players (like Abood and Jack).

CrimeWatcher 05-29-2016 05:51 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 709105)
What even is the current argument even about? Sarah had a lag spike, as she's been having regularly since she traveled to Egypt. Everyone acknowledged it. We all were begging to have her subbed out. She got subbed out. You guys won. No one talked trash or complained. Where's the problem?


Well, no one ever talked about how VIS has won GSTs while cheating and using banned players either... Especially when other teams (like us) did not use their banned players (like Abood and Jack).

Did you even read the previous posts lol.. I was just addressing the fact Saber thinks the only reason we won was because of a "5v4 for VIS" when in fact Alumni beat us that match because Sarah was lag hitting us all. I'm not mad at Sarah lagging I'm just pointing out Saber doesn't know what he's talking about and we beat Alumni legit, end of story.

Thallen 05-29-2016 05:58 PM

Who cares? Ignore him, get over it, etc. Like I said, no one complained when your team legitimately broke the rules during GST wins. Can't believe there's been an entire page of posts arguing over one guy's comment...

I agree that the host should have intervened in the Bello match, but couldn't have Bello just not queued again? Surge definitely needed to be subbed out...

Kosiris 05-29-2016 06:02 PM

there was a host that was saying that my latency was going over 900ms then he said it's over 9000ms... I had to stop during our match vs Demon and ask him to stop saying it because it wasn't true and it was really annoying

Zetectic 05-29-2016 06:06 PM

guys we need gst fix list:
1. flawed brackets/gs pt system
2. troll/ban evade teams
3. laggy server- 4000+ on during gst.
4. choppy viewing room
5. add live scores in viewing room

Yog 05-29-2016 06:06 PM

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Posted by Kosiris (Post 709112)
there was a host that was saying that my latency was going over 900ms then he said it's over 9000ms... I had to stop during our match vs Demon and ask him to stop saying it because it wasn't true and it was really annoying

Someone on Silver was mentioning another player lagging. I mentioned that your ping was higher than his so there shouldn't be anything to worry about. When he asked how high your ping was I replied with "It's over 9000!!!". It was a reference to Dragonball, and after you had asked what I meant by that next round, I had explained I was joking. Sorry if that caused any confusion though.

Worst case scenario the round would've restarted and you would've been substituted.

Zetectic 05-29-2016 06:14 PM

you're fired!

CrimeWatcher 05-29-2016 06:17 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 709111)
Who cares? Ignore him, get over it, etc. Like I said, no one complained when your team legitimately broke the rules during GST wins. Can't believe there's been an entire page of posts arguing over one guy's comment...

I agree that the host should have intervened in the Bello match, but couldn't have Bello just not queued again? Surge definitely needed to be subbed out...

The queue wasn't forced so it was Bello's choice to queue up. But yeah the host should have DQ'd Surge like they should have done to Sarah so Bello would have a better chance at sparring more fairly.

Fulgore 05-29-2016 06:51 PM

What she means is that if she was not that laggy she would get to spar in the third round, possibly get MVP again and eliminate you. But because she was so laggy, she was subbed out in fear of DQ.

I have 0 doubt whatsoever in my mind that if Sarah was in France they would have won it.

Incognito 05-29-2016 07:03 PM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 709120)
What she means is that if she was not that laggy she would get to spar in the third round, possibly get MVP again and eliminate you. But because she was so laggy, she was subbed out in fear of DQ.

I have 0 doubt whatsoever in my mind that if Sarah was in France they would have won it.

Fair enough, I never directed any of this to Sarah or Alumni members anyways.

But I have 0 doubt whatsoever in my mind that if I was there too then we would have won it. (GST)


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